ATTENTION: Please don't derail this thread. Have a civil discussion.
Also don't respond with typical deflections like "Calaacal" "you're just jealous" "Alshabaab" and "Amisom". Those are just deflections and doesn't answer anything.
I'm truly trying to get in the mind of an Slander and see how they see things.
So if Ogaden, Mareexan, Digil, Mirifle, Abgaal, Habargidir, Majeerteen, Warsangeli, Dhulbahanti, Gadabuursi, and even Some Ciise I've met can all come together and set their differences aside for the greater good and establish a Greater Somalia. Why can't the people of Somaliland join literally every single other Somali clan in setting petty politics and tribalism a side in establishing a nation.
I guess a somewhat of a legitimate response to this could be "we've already tried and we only got bombs dropped on us afterwards". That sounds like it makes sense at first, but it's really just a fallacy. The Siad barre government did that to Somaliland, and previous governments didn't. So you can't blame Somali governing when it was only one administration that's long gone.
Why it's a fallacy is because Siad barre didn't bomb the north because he hated their tribe but bc he was trying to crush anti regime rebels (Bombing your own civilians is never justified). But lets not forget he also killed people of Puntland in an attempt to crush rebels. I know reer Somaliland had it much worse but still reer Puntland also had pretty bad aswel, but you don't see them using that to gain independence are you?
Siad barre was defeated and Somalia broke into factions
All those factions after the war wanted to establish a new Somali government that wasn't run by dictatorship, expect SNM who called for more separation.
Somaliland never existed before and was just the result of gaalo futocad drewing some bullshit arbitrary lines on a map and calling it a country. Yes you could say the same about Italian Somaliland being a fake creation too; which it is. But the difference is that every Somali living in Somalia believes Ethiopia Occupies Somali land and one day have ambitions of liberating those lands and getting rid of Colonial borders.
I, unlike my other colleagues think that Somaliland isn't just another State like Puntland or Galmudug, but a Somali territory that's similar to Italian Somaliland and Djoubti. Which is why it's one of the points of the the star
★.
It's inevitable that a greater Somalia inshallah will happen, but every party has to be willing to be a part of it, no one should be forced, Somaliland will not be dragged kicking to join the rest of their brother. They have to want it as well. But I'm afraid that these odayaal have done a good job in brainwashing the youth of Somaliland with 26 years forth of propaganda.
To get rid of this divide and to appease reer Somaliland. I hereby call for a greater Somaliland and not a greater Somalia.
Somaliland Ha Noolaato
Also don't respond with typical deflections like "Calaacal" "you're just jealous" "Alshabaab" and "Amisom". Those are just deflections and doesn't answer anything.
I'm truly trying to get in the mind of an Slander and see how they see things.
So if Ogaden, Mareexan, Digil, Mirifle, Abgaal, Habargidir, Majeerteen, Warsangeli, Dhulbahanti, Gadabuursi, and even Some Ciise I've met can all come together and set their differences aside for the greater good and establish a Greater Somalia. Why can't the people of Somaliland join literally every single other Somali clan in setting petty politics and tribalism a side in establishing a nation.
I guess a somewhat of a legitimate response to this could be "we've already tried and we only got bombs dropped on us afterwards". That sounds like it makes sense at first, but it's really just a fallacy. The Siad barre government did that to Somaliland, and previous governments didn't. So you can't blame Somali governing when it was only one administration that's long gone.
Why it's a fallacy is because Siad barre didn't bomb the north because he hated their tribe but bc he was trying to crush anti regime rebels (Bombing your own civilians is never justified). But lets not forget he also killed people of Puntland in an attempt to crush rebels. I know reer Somaliland had it much worse but still reer Puntland also had pretty bad aswel, but you don't see them using that to gain independence are you?
Siad barre was defeated and Somalia broke into factions
All those factions after the war wanted to establish a new Somali government that wasn't run by dictatorship, expect SNM who called for more separation.
Somaliland never existed before and was just the result of gaalo futocad drewing some bullshit arbitrary lines on a map and calling it a country. Yes you could say the same about Italian Somaliland being a fake creation too; which it is. But the difference is that every Somali living in Somalia believes Ethiopia Occupies Somali land and one day have ambitions of liberating those lands and getting rid of Colonial borders.
I, unlike my other colleagues think that Somaliland isn't just another State like Puntland or Galmudug, but a Somali territory that's similar to Italian Somaliland and Djoubti. Which is why it's one of the points of the the star
★.
It's inevitable that a greater Somalia inshallah will happen, but every party has to be willing to be a part of it, no one should be forced, Somaliland will not be dragged kicking to join the rest of their brother. They have to want it as well. But I'm afraid that these odayaal have done a good job in brainwashing the youth of Somaliland with 26 years forth of propaganda.
To get rid of this divide and to appease reer Somaliland. I hereby call for a greater Somaliland and not a greater Somalia.
Somaliland Ha Noolaato
It was to get rid of afweyne
