A Map Of Somalia In The 1500s

[killerxsmoke]

This was created by Stefano Bonsignori, he died in 1589

This is what it says in the black text

"Few things did the ancients of the Troglodytic suffer, & such inhuman things, which bring horror, But something else appears from which Pharaoh's general Mofe fighting the city of Meroe, I was able to take it by force, the pse through the ardent love that the daughter of the King of Troglodytes, seeing the fame of his virtues, gave him From that life, the pfe p husband & gave him the Cruelty City where there is no place, where the fake virtue has so much strength. The Troglos offer part of the law of part the of Mohammed They hang on to the great Lord of the Ethiopians known as Prete Lani Tolfero the Portuguese more lands in the sea, of which they still consider part"

 

[killerxsmoke]

@Hamzza @Garaad diinle

 

[mahamdov]

I think The name Somalia was not popular in that period

 

[killerxsmoke]

I think The name Somalia was not popular in that period

it wasnt called somalia

 

[silentshimbir]

Somal was a class name for the nomads, which eventually everyone used to describe our ethnicity​

 

[Garaad diinle]

I've seen this one before and although not an accurate map it's not completely wrong. It drew fatagar all the way down to somalia which is obviously wrong. Notice how it calls the land trogloditica which is one of the names of the inhabitants of somalia in antiquity. There is this reconstructed turkish map dating back to the time of futuh. Instead of ajan or adal it simply calls the land somal which is the arabic way of saying somalia.

 

[Hamzza]

There is this reconstructed turkish map dating back to the time of futuh. Instead of ajan or adal it simply calls the land of somal which is the arabic way of saying somalia.

Bro, can you give us more details about this map

 

[Garaad diinle]

Bro, can you give us more details about this map

It's a reconstructed map by Wilhelm Tomaschek which he took from a book called kitab i-muhit. Here is more info on it.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sidi_Ali_Ben_Hosein%27s_Mohit_1554.png

 

[Hamzza]

It's a reconstructed map by Wilhelm Tomaschek which he took from a book called kitab i-muhit. Here is more info on it.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sidi_Ali_Ben_Hosein%27s_Mohit_1554.png

So, it's reconstructed from the writings of the Turkish Admiral. It's like me making a map of the 1500s Horn of Africa based on the information provided by the book Futuh al Habaša. I was thinking it was an actual Turkish map.

 

[Garaad diinle]

So, it's reconstructed from the writings of the Turkish Admiral. It's like me making a map of the 1500s Horn of Africa based on the information provided by the book Futuh al Habaša. I was thinking it was an actual Turkish map.

I don't have access to the original book so i can't say if there is an actual map or not. That being said there was a turkish traveller around that time that travelled to east africa and called the land west of yemen on the gulf of aden the land of somal or the coast of somal so this map would indeed be a good reconstruction.

 

[Garaad.XIV]

Maroodi jeex

 

[Nin123]

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This was created by Stefano Bonsignori, he died in 1589

This is what it says in the black text

"Few things did the ancients of the Troglodytic suffer, & such inhuman things, which bring horror, But something else appears from which Pharaoh's general Mofe fighting the city of Meroe, I was able to take it by force, the pse through the ardent love that the daughter of the King of Troglodytes, seeing the fame of his virtues, gave him From that life, the pfe p husband & gave him the Cruelty City where there is no place, where the fake virtue has so much strength. The Troglos offer part of the law of part the of Mohammed They hang on to the great Lord of the Ethiopians known as Prete Lani Tolfero the Portuguese more lands in the sea, of which they still consider part"

reer mudug are zenji

 

[Emir of Zayla]

This is what it says in the black text

"Few things did the ancients of the Troglodytic suffer, & such inhuman things, which bring horror, But something else appears from which Pharaoh's general Mofe fighting the city of Meroe, I was able to take it by force, the pse through the ardent love that the daughter of the King of Troglodytes, seeing the fame of his virtues, gave him From that life, the pfe p husband & gave him the Cruelty City where there is no place, where the fake virtue has so much strength. The Troglos offer part of the law of part the of Mohammed They hang on to the great Lord of the Ethiopians known as Prete Lani Tolfero the Portuguese more lands in the sea, of which they still consider part"

What does this even mean? It’s gibberish.

 

[Almis]

Its called maroodijeex for a reason

 

[Emir of Zayla]

What does this even mean? It’s gibberish.

@killerxsmoke translate dude

 

[Khaem]

Somal was a class name for the nomads, which eventually everyone used to describe our ethnicity​

Yes ethnic somali went by many different names depending on their lifestyle.
I believe farmers were known as Tumal and nomads were Somal.
Eventually the name somal became the standard.

Kinda like how Arab just means nomad but now near all semites aside from jews call themselves arabs.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

This is what it says in the black text

"Few things did the ancients of the Troglodytic suffer, & such inhuman things, which bring horror, But something else appears from which Pharaoh's general Mofe fighting the city of Meroe, I was able to take it by force, the pse through the ardent love that the daughter of the King of Troglodytes, seeing the fame of his virtues, gave him From that life, the pfe p husband & gave him the Cruelty City where there is no place, where the fake virtue has so much strength. The Troglos offer part of the law of part the of Mohammed They hang on to the great Lord of the Ethiopians known as Prete Lani Tolfero the Portuguese more lands in the sea, of which they still consider part"

What do we have to do with the Pharoahs and Meroë? And it also says we worship Christ? We’ve been Muslim far before the 1500s

 

[killerxsmoke]

What do we have to do with the Pharoahs and Meroë? And it also says we worship Christ? We’ve been Muslim far before the 1500s

i will translate it just wait for a bit

 

[Smokybob03]

i honestly am amazed how humans could map the shape of the land and its surroundings before tech. this is the 1500s too, crazy

 

[killerxsmoke]

What do we have to do with the Pharoahs and Meroë? And it also says we worship Christ? We’ve been Muslim far before the 1500s

It seems to be describing some historical events or anecdotes involving ancient civilizations and individuals, possibly referring to the Troglodytes and their sufferings, as well as a general named Mofe who fought against the city of Meroe. The passage mentions a connection between Mofe and the daughter of the King of Troglodytes, suggesting a romantic relationship. As a result of this relationship, Mofe was able to conquer the city of Meroe. The passage also alludes to virtues, love, and cruelty.

The text then mentions some connection between the Troglodytes and the law of Mohammed as well as their association with a figure called "Prete Lani Tolfero," who is described as the great Lord of the Ethiopians. Additionally, there's a reference to Portuguese explorations and their expansion of territories at sea.

However, the text appears to be fragmented and contains sentences that are difficult to understand due to the presence of words that seem to be misspelled or out of context. Without more context or accurate wording, it's challenging to provide a precise interpretation.