Realistically, the Prophet's sons are dead, so there is no one in direct lineage. His cousin Ali married his daughter Fatima, and there are the majority of the Hawasheem who are descended from them. I think I agree with you. I even wonder about the hadith of the Prophet's family that they do not take zakat. I mean, to me, the Prophet's family are only his "children". Therefore, the argument does not apply to AliI was thinking more like al sabah family or al saud. Horta how do hashemites claim to descend from the prophet when he had no surviving sons? Through his daughter? I swear thats not legitimate islamically.
I call this islamic mental gymnastics. The prophets sons didnt survive his lineage ended so they jump to the closest association they can have to claim him. The banu hashems always talk about how they come from fatima not aliRealistically, the Prophet's sons are dead, so there is no one in direct lineage. His cousin Ali married his daughter Fatima, and there are the majority of the Hawasheem who are descended from them. I think I agree with you. I even wonder about the hadith of the Prophet's family that they do not take zakat. I mean, to me, the Prophet's family are only his "children". Therefore, the argument does not apply to Ali
The Nawasib began to focus on these mattersI call this islamic mental gymnastics. The prophets sons didnt survive his lineage ended so they jump to the closest association they can have to claim him. The banu hashems always talk about how they come from fatima not ali
R u shia!The Nawasib began to focus on these matters
The Nawasib are not Shiites. No, they love Muawiyah and hate Ali. They believe that Muawiyah was more deserving of the caliphate than Ali and had his justifications. They see Ali as someone who wants the caliphate because he is the cousin of the Prophet. They even said that he was the one who planned to kill Uthman ibn Affan (رضي الله عنه)R u shia!
Nah you said nawasib, shias call us that. Btw what madhab you follow?The Nawasib are not Shiites. No, they love Muawiyah and hate Ali. They believe that Muawiyah was more deserving of the caliphate than Ali and had his justifications. They see Ali as someone who wants the caliphate because he is the cousin of the Prophet. They even said that he was the one who planned to kill Uthman ibn Affan (رضي الله عنه)
The same religious doctrine as youNah you said nawasib, shias call us that. Btw what madhab you follow?
Hanbali? Just you or ur family. I swear somalis r shafici. R u saudi or kuwaitiThe same religious doctrine as you
UntrueSomali tribes would never allow an tribe to govern them, they would rather this vs stable functioning Somalia
Hanbali/SalafiHanbali? Just you or ur family. I swear somalis r shafici. R u saudi or kuwaiti
Only hanbali majority countries are saudi and qatar. R u saudi or qatari???Hanbali/Salafi
The Gulf countries, with the exception of Yemen, Oman, and the Emirates, practice Hanbali/Salafiism in particular. Yes, I live in Saudi Arabia.Only hanbali majority countries are saudi and qatar. R u saudi or qatari???
Al nasr better. Also can you follow multiple madahib?The Gulf countries, with the exception of Yemen, Oman, and the Emirates, practice Hanbali/Salafiism in particular. Yes, I live in Saudi Arabia.
Al-Nasr what?- I'm not one of those people who prefers to have in-depth conversations like this, but I will try to devote more time to delving deeper into the doctrine in the future.Al nasr better. Also can you follow multiple madahib?
You can thank this for south SomalisLol Somalis will still act like we are so tough and bad and can defend ourselvesView attachment 330155
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Check this out too this brother speaks heavy truth. We are delusional people thinking we won’t become another Kabul
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most likely they will join back. There going broke apparently, the diaspora cash is drying up fast lol.If Somaliland loses ssc because we don't know the future than ssc should succeed and become a self declared country and self govern themselves like Somaliland. But ofcourse as much as I want, them to be part of Somaliland and i hope they do, but I can't predict the future and the direction can go anywhere. Sometimes, not the way you want it to go.