Anyone else believe All Somalis should Leave the west ?

Wllhi everywhere we go, we face hatred. We are among the most isolated people, disliked by Mathows and Cadaans. Recently, a flag designed for Minnesota that slightly depicted a Somali regional flag angered the Cadaans. The council had to remove the stripes. I believe it's over; we need to pack our bags and leave the West to rebuild our nation. We aren't welcomed here.
 

Kizaru

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Wllhi everywhere we go, we face hatred. We are among the most isolated people, disliked by Mathows and Cadaans. Recently, a flag designed for Minnesota that slightly depicted a Somali regional flag angered the Cadaans. The council had to remove the stripes. I believe it's over; we need to pack our bags and leave the West to rebuild our nation. We aren't welcomed here.
Yes me. Somalis shouldn't feel comfortable in the west. We here while our country is a laughing stock run by odaays with 1 and a half braincells. We need to head home
 

Kizaru

Cast in the name of God Ye not Guilty
Wllhi everywhere we go, we face hatred. We are among the most isolated people, disliked by Mathows and Cadaans. Recently, a flag designed for Minnesota that slightly depicted a Somali regional flag angered the Cadaans. The council had to remove the stripes. I believe it's over; we need to pack our bags and leave the West to rebuild our nation. We aren't welcomed here.
The flag shit was our fault. Somalis would be angry if a immigrant swapped a states flag with the Italian, British or American looking flags
 
The flag shit was our fault. Somalis would be angry if a immigrant swapped a states flag with the Italian, British or American looking flags
The flag wasn’t our fault it was designed and submitted by a cadaan guy the whites were triggered by the similarity I can name so many white green and blue flags but they just wanted to be racist
 
I used to think somalis living in Arab countries have it easy as that was my plan C if I ever have children..

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Abu lahabs are scared to fight Houthis they literally hire Sudanese mercenaries to fight for them and send them to their death Saudis are some of the laziest people matter of fact the entire gulf I just can’t wait till their oil runs out Wllhi their entire countries were built off the blood and sweat of south Asians let’s see how they last
 
Somali diasporans are too dramatic, the majority came in a period when the West is probably the most hospitable part of the planet. Fifty years earlier and a group of clowns with pointed bedsheets on their heads would be burning crosses in front of your house, thirty years before that if you were on the wrong side of a World War, you’d be suffering in a internment camp like the Japanese. Thirty years before that you would be fighting Peaky Blinders style gangs in Cardiff and Birmingham like the small group of Yemeni and Somali sailor men did back in the day.

You guys are moaning about a few xenophobes in the West typing words on a screen, when tons of African migrants IN AFRICA are getting killed by South Africans for being to entrepreneurial.

As Somalia continues to stabilise, the country will disappear from global headlines for the wrong reasons. If it pivots into economic prosperity, we could have a complete rebrand like Vietnam. Yesterday a war torn hated country to an economically booming tourist magnet.

This combined with the more stable nuclear family units of the new millennial Somali parents will result in their children being academically successful. If the burden of sending money home is no longer one placed on the diaspora community because of a more prosperous Somalia, the average Somali family in the West would have significant boost in their monthly and annual income, allowing them to save and eventually move to better neighbourhoods, schools, tutors and job opportunities.

One thing I have noticed with the Millennial Somali mothers is that they have become the African version of Tiger moms, and they place as much emphasis on their sons’ education as Gen X mothers used to do with their daughters. I call them Lioness Moms 😄🦁

I’m actually very optimistic for the Somali Future. I feel that if we could emerge from the last 30 years, the worst period in our history, with communities that have a good foundation to propel themselves into model communities, then the next 30 years will be transformative in a positive sense.
 
Yes, most Somalis should come back as the diaspora is by far more educated and better suited to running the country than low IQ clan heads who care only about power and money. However, this isn't because Somalis are a pariah in western societies lmao.
 

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Somali diasporans are too dramatic, the majority came in a period when the West is probably the most hospitable part of the planet. Fifty years earlier and a group of clowns with pointed bedsheets on their heads would be burning crosses in front of your house, thirty years before that if you were on the wrong side of a World War, you’d be suffering in a internment camp like the Japanese. Thirty years before that you would be fighting Peaky Blinders style gangs in Cardiff and Birmingham like the small group of Yemeni and Somali sailor men did back in the day.
wait really there were Yemeni and Somali sailors in Britain? bro tell me the story :ohhh:
 
I used to think somalis living in Arab countries have it easy as that was my plan C if I ever have children..

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Really? What Arab countr-
>saudi arabia
intothetrashitgoes.jpg Why would anyone care about what Saudis think of us, a people who willingly abuses African and Asian workers and have killed countless Yemenis? f*ck the Saudis and f*ck most of the Gulf monarchs.
 

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The flag shit was our fault. Somalis would be angry if a immigrant swapped a states flag with the Italian, British or American looking flags
The flag had nothing to do with us. The cadaans are paranoid, the flag was designed by a white guy and looks nothing like our state flag. Whites are paranoid because they've done unspeakable horrors to the people they now live with.
 
What do you mean by more nuclear families? Most of the Somali families I know are two-parent. Also, why do Somalis often harp about negative representations? I grew up around doctors and engineers as a child. I'm far from special, but let us not forget that there were educated Somali parents of millennials, too, who may have assisted in their development somehow. That may pay itself forward. I'm very much against this doom-and-gloom talk. It gets people nowhere. However, I often have to mention that Somalis came with varying levels of social capital when they first arrived based on years spent in formal education and the opportunities they were granted. Millennials and younger Gen Xers could access what was considered more of a luxury. For that, they are lucky. They were also not as impeded by familial responsibilities and were either young upon arrival or born abroad. In that sense, they have an advantage.

I’m not going to dismiss your personal experiences, but there is a big chunk of the diaspora with absent fathers that either died in the war or stayed behind. Then you also have a section that intentionally lived separate to access cayr, and add to that the group of parents that divorced amicably, and its clear the Somali nuclear family (or in the case of pre-war Somalia the ‘extended community family’) suffered a significant blow. One thing is for sure, many of them arrived with nothing but their clothes on their back, some of them left all of their prized possessions in Somalia believing the conflict would only last a few months, not 30 years.

The educated Gen X parents that did arrive intact, still had to face the fact that their hard-earned certificates and diplomas weren’t recognised by their new host countries. A doctor or an engineer would now be forced to work as a taxi driver, or factory worker, with 12 to 14 hour shifts, which is also another form of parental absence for these kids.

I feel millennial parents have a lot more advantages than the Gen X parents, be it their recognised education, better jobs, or tapping into the now reconstructed ‘extended family unit’ that consists of grandmothers, grandfathers, other grandrelatives, aunts, uncles, siblings, etc that live in close proximity like prewar Somalia, something the Gen X parents didn’t have as they settled into new communities and only years later saw their relatives move in closer.
 
Somali diasporans are too dramatic, the majority came in a period when the West is probably the most hospitable part of the planet. Fifty years earlier and a group of clowns with pointed bedsheets on their heads would be burning crosses in front of your house, thirty years before that if you were on the wrong side of a World War, you’d be suffering in a internment camp like the Japanese. Thirty years before that you would be fighting Peaky Blinders style gangs in Cardiff and Birmingham like the small group of Yemeni and Somali sailor men did back in the day.

You guys are moaning about a few xenophobes in the West typing words on a screen, when tons of African migrants IN AFRICA are getting killed by South Africans for being to entrepreneurial.

As Somalia continues to stabilise, the country will disappear from global headlines for the wrong reasons. If it pivots into economic prosperity, we could have a complete rebrand like Vietnam. Yesterday a war torn hated country to an economically booming tourist magnet.

This combined with the more stable nuclear family units of the new millennial Somali parents will result in their children being academically successful. If the burden of sending money home is no longer one placed on the diaspora community because of a more prosperous Somalia, the average Somali family in the West would have significant boost in their monthly and annual income, allowing them to save and eventually move to better neighbourhoods, schools, tutors and job opportunities.

One thing I have noticed with the Millennial Somali mothers is that they have become the African version of Tiger moms, and they place as much emphasis on their sons’ education as Gen X mothers used to do with their daughters. I call them Lioness Moms 😄🦁

I’m actually very optimistic for the Somali Future. I feel that if we could emerge from the last 30 years, the worst period in our history, with communities that have a good foundation to propel themselves into model communities, then the next 30 years will be transformative in a positive sense.
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wait really there were Yemeni and Somali sailors in Britain? bro tell me the story :ohhh:
Yes there were specially port cities such as Liverpool, Cardif , there were somali sailors till the 80s my father Allah ha u naxaristo is one of them he used to speak different languages even met an uncle in Bosaso when he spoke in English he had a scouser accent .
 

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I’m not going to dismiss your personal experiences, but there is a big chunk of the diaspora with absent fathers that either died in the war or stayed behind. Then you also have a section that intentionally lived separate to access cayr, and add to that the group of parents that divorced amicably, and its clear the Somali nuclear family (or in the case of pre-war Somalia the ‘extended community family’) suffered a significant blow. One thing is for sure, many of them arrived with nothing but their clothes on their back, some of them left all of their prized possessions in Somalia believing the conflict would only last a few months, not 30 years.

The educated Gen X parents that did arrive intact, still had to face the fact that their hard-earned certificates and diplomas weren’t recognised by their new host countries. A doctor or an engineer would now be forced to work as a taxi driver, or factory worker, with 12 to 14 hour shifts, which is also another form of parental absence for these kids.

I feel millennial parents have a lot more advantages than the Gen X parents, be it their recognised education, better jobs, or tapping into the now reconstructed ‘extended family unit’ that consists of grandmothers, grandfathers, other grandrelatives, aunts, uncles, siblings, etc that live in close proximity like prewar Somalia, something the Gen X parents didn’t have as they settled into new communities and only years later saw their relatives move in closer.
It is not merely my personal experience but those around me. I don't know as many divorced families. I don't think we're from the same diaspora, either. My parents are Boomers educated in the West (Europe and the US, respectively) who left before the country collapsed. They were overseas working or in school. I often have to tell Somalis who are not knowledgeable that the first wave of asylum seekers in Canada arriving in the late 80s were the most educated group at the time. I felt I had to insert this narrative because some people don't know. I mention this because an educated class abroad, though small, existed, and they had children. I was one of those millennials born to them. I'm aware of the lack of accepted credentials among some who left. However, before the country collapsed, Somali degrees carried more weight. Also, weren't Gen Xers in their twenties and teens? They were the ones who experienced a hard time adjusting relative to millennials and even boomers, in some cases, who studied overseas.
 
I used to think somalis living in Arab countries have it easy as that was my plan C if I ever have children..

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That’s interesting, last year I saw a post on Reddit where a Somali user asked Saudis what they thought about us. The ones that responded said they liked us. Common answers mentioned our humor and honesty

I did see one guy say that he didn’t like American Somalis too much because he said they acted “gangster” lol. But he said the others were nice people

I’ve met a number of Somalis who’ve lived in Arab countries, and they’ve mostly had great experiences
 

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