Borana garre relationship

[Gabz19988]

Does any one know how the garre came to speak this language? And the historical relationship between the borana and garre people. It is rumoured that some hawiye tribes have been assimilated into the Oromo primarily the gugundhabe. No clan bashing/FKD please

 

[Dues Ex Machina]

Historical records have documented the Garre (gurreh) as being a galla tribe in the late 1800s.

 

[Cabdi]

Does any one know how the garre came to speak this language? And the historical relationship between the borana and garre people. It is rumoured that some hawiye tribes have been assimilated into the Oromo primarily the gugundhabe. No clan bashing/FKD please

Boraan conquered and ruled over them for two centuries

 

[Gabz19988]

Boraan conquered and ruled over them for two centuries

Do you have any evidence of this?

 

[Cabdi]

Do you have any evidence of this?

no i don't its what my NFD friend said

 

[Gabz19988]

Historical records have documented the Garre (gurreh) as being a galla tribe in the late 1800s.View attachment 109780

There is an oromo subclan called Gaaroo probably talking about them

List of Oromo subgroups and clans - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Faahiye]

There is an oromo subclan called Gaaroo probably talking about them

List of Oromo subgroups and clans - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

@Gabz19988,

Garre people

My mothers clan can be classified as oromo but my mother is a Somali patriot. Don't call us "immigrants" next time:ufdup:

www.somalispot.com

Not sure on the accuracy of this but it does make sense.


Best,

Faahiye

 

[Parailia somalensis]

Sounds Ethiopian

 

[abdiqalaq]

don't know as far I know garres look like Oromo to me I can differentiate between them and any ordinary Somali.

 

[embarassing]

Its just proximity to the Borana, they are Somali. There are Garre within Somalia proper, Lower Shabelle who dont speak that language as far as I know. Speaking another language doesnt take away your Somalinimo. You guys need to stop doing that.

 

[embarassing]

All documents youll find refer to them as Somalis, even the Borana call them Somalis. Most importantly they know theyre Somali themselves.

 

[Gabz19988]

All documents youll find refer to them as Somalis, even the Borana call them Somalis. Most importantly they know theyre Somali themselves.

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Interesting do you mind if you attach links to these sources. Do you have any sources that mention the supposed garre presence in places as far off as chad and Sudan?

 

[embarassing]

Interesting do you mind if you attach links to these sources. Do you have any sources that mention the supposed garre presence in places as far off as chad and Sudan?

How Enemies are Made: Towards a Theory of Ethnic and Religious Conflicts
By Günther Schlee
Peoples on the Move: Introducing the Nomads of the World
By David J. Phillips
Changing Identifications and Alliances in North-east Africa: Volume I ...
edited by Günther Schlee, Elizabeth E. Watson

I have no idea about that but ill try and look into it.

 

[Farabuuto]

Historical records have documented the Garre (gurreh) as being a galla tribe in the late 1800s.View attachment 109780

Unless you have a source of this page that we can asses, this is nonsense. Garre are not originally Oromos and Borana aren't that dumb. This just seems like it's meant to offend them

 

[Farabuuto]

Its just proximity to the Borana, they are Somali. There are Garre within Somalia proper, Lower Shabelle who dont speak that language as far as I know. Speaking another language doesnt take away your Somalinimo. You guys need to stop doing that.

What do you mean they don't speak that language? They speak that language as well as being fluent in Borana. Any Garre in NFD will tell you this. A lot of Garre became Oromo over the centuries and don't align with Somalis. "Somalinimo" doesn't exist among the Garre, only when Borana attack them

 

[Farabuuto]

The Garre are Irir Samaale in origin but they align with Oromos politically and culturally. They've adopted Oromo farming techniques and most of them are able to speak fluent af Borana. They've been facing Oromo absorption for decades now but they still hold down Moyale.

They fight with Degodia in Ethiopia but their main enemies in Moyale are Borana. In one raid these couple years I remember 50 Garre were killed at once by Boranas. Yet, they're close to them. I know Garre diaspora that speak Borana as a first language.

 

[Pipit]

Someone told me that Garre were originally oromos that worked under the landheere Borana, they only became Somali after Somalis introduced Islam to them (this is not facts, but oral history that could be fake)

 

[Pipit]

The Garre are Dir in origin but they align with Oromos politically and culturally. They've adopted Oromo farming techniques and most of them are able to speak fluent af Borana. They've been facing Oromo absorption for decades now but they still hold down Moyale.

They fight with Degodia in Ethiopia but their main enemies in Moyale are Borana. In one raid these couple years I remember 50 Garre were killed at once by Boranas. Yet, they're close to them. I know Garre diaspora that speak Borana as a first language.

Only the quranyow subclan of Garre claim Dir, the rest claim Gardhere Samaale (there are prolly some that claim borana too, due to being isolated from other Somalis)

 

[Pipit]

All documents youll find refer to them as Somalis, even the Borana call them Somalis. Most importantly they know theyre Somali themselves.

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Interesting. So the Garre & Ajuraan could’ve possibly been borana-ized if degodia didn’t show up

 

[embarassing]

Someone told me that Garre were originally oromos that worked under the landheere Borana, they only became Somali after Somalis introduced Islam to them (this is not facts, but oral history that could be fake)

They are fully Somali.