BREAKING: FORMER U.S AMBASSADOR TO SOMALIA “3/5 OF THE FEDERAL MEMBER STATES ARE BANKRUPT”

[Farm]

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I wonder what those two states have in common?

 

[Crow]

 

[DRACO]

puntland is broke brothers
@Tjioux @DalJecel @DR OSMAN

 

[Huncho]

I'm shocked the PL cyber defence force didn't shut this thread down

 

[Farm]

puntland is broke brothers
@Tjioux @DalJecel @DR OSMAN

I'm shocked the PL cyber defence force didn't shut this thread down

Did you guys not watch the clip? I even time stamped it.

 

[Mali Mo]

Clans ba waaleey naagta.

 

[DR OSMAN]

3/5 is 60% which means it's 3 states since 5 are federally recognized as member states. PL/JL are clearly the 40% who are not bankrupt they have assets such as ports or airports to acquire taxes. So who are these 3 states that are broke? well it's obvious to anyone, it's baidoa, hirshabelle, and galmudug, they don't have any infrastructure watsoever beyond the road taxes. I haven't even watched it either cause my eyes are enough to tell me the reality.

This clearly isn't talking about PL/JL.

 

[Abdalla]

Khat chewers do not have any intellectual capacity. You need to write in capital letters or scream from the top of your lungs for them to understand which states the ambassador was referring to

 

[Abdalla]

3/5 is 60% which means it's 3 states since 5 are federally recognized as member states. PL/JL are clearly the 40% who are not bankrupt they have assets such as ports or airports to acquire taxes. So who are these 3 states that are broke? well it's obvious to anyone, it's baidoa, hirshabelle, and galmudug, they don't have any infrastructure watsoever beyond the road taxes. I haven't even watched it either cause my eyes are enough to tell me the reality.

This clearly isn't talking about PL/JL.

The ambassador said the other two receive revenue from the Bosaso and Kismayo ports

 

[Farm]

3/5 is 60% which means it's 3 states since 5 are federally recognized as member states. PL/JL are clearly the 40% who are not bankrupt they have assets such as ports or airports to acquire taxes. So who are these 3 states that are broke? well it's obvious to anyone, it's baidoa, hirshabelle, and galmudug, they don't have any infrastructure watsoever beyond the road taxes. I haven't even watched it either cause my eyes are enough to tell me the reality.

This clearly isn't talking about PL/JL.

Bingo

 

[DR OSMAN]

Khat chewers do not have any intellectual capacity. You need to write in capital letters or scream from the top of your lungs for them to understand which states the ambassador was referring to

I didn't even watch it bro, I don't listen to people when my eyes serve me just well to see the truth. Why I need him telling me something my eyes are witness too?

 

[Zero]

3/5 is 60% which means it's 3 states since 5 are federally recognized as member states. PL/JL are clearly the 40% who are not bankrupt they have assets such as ports or airports to acquire taxes. So who are these 3 states that are broke? well it's obvious to anyone, it's baidoa, hirshabelle, and galmudug, they don't have any infrastructure watsoever beyond the road taxes. I haven't even watched it either cause my eyes are enough to tell me the reality.

This clearly isn't talking about PL/JL.

Sit down you delusional MJ.

To quote what he said"The FGS is bankrupt,they can't even meet their salaries every month let alone provide public services.Let alone do revenue sharing with federal member states.3 of them which are completely bankrupt and 2 of which have a modest amount of money they get from the ports of kismayo and bosaso."

Doesn't the first sentence remind you of Puntland.

 

[Farm]

Sit down you delusional MJ.

To quote what he said"The FGS is bankrupt,they can't even meet their salaries every month let alone provide public services.Let alone do revenue sharing with federal member states.3 of them which are completely bankrupt and 2 of which have a modest amount of money they get from the ports of kismayo and bosaso."

Doesn't the first sentence remind you of Puntland.

Somaliland and Somalia are both among the poorest places on Earth, of course it would be modest. You seem to lack common sense.

 

[BANTU]

Sit down you delusional MJ.

To quote what he said"The FGS is bankrupt,they can't even meet their salaries every month let alone provide public services.Let alone do revenue sharing with federal member states.3 of them which are completely bankrupt and 2 of which have a modest amount of money they get from the ports of kismayo and bosaso."

Doesn't the first sentence remind you of Puntland.

iA they continue their meager earnings

But they should pay military and civil servants, that's just ceeb

 

[Zero]

Somaliland and Somalia are both among the poorest places on Earth, of course it would be modest. You seem to lack common sense.

Somaliland doesn't rely on Berbera port alone.The customs and Inland revenue contributes the majority of the revenue of Somaliland's budget.The rest comes from taxation.Its what keeps the goverment afloat while they pay off clan elders in SSC and provide payments for the large Somaliland army and civil servant pool each month on time.In no way could the SL goverment survive from Berbera port alone.If you want to learn the Somaliland tax system and % of each tax collected check this out:https://www.pkf.com/publications/tax-guides/somaliland-tax-guide/

We aren't in the same league as FGS and their federal member states.We can actually afford to pay for our large army and huge civil servant pool each month on time.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Somaliland doesn't rely on Berbera port alone.The customs and Inland revenue contributes the majority of the revenue of Somaliland's budget.The rest comes from taxation.Its what keeps the goverment afloat while they pay off clan elders in SSC and provide payments for the large Somaliland army and civil servant pool each month on time.In no way could the SL goverment survive from Berbera port alone.If you want to learn the Somaliland tax system and % of each tax collected check this out:https://www.pkf.com/publications/tax-guides/somaliland-tax-guide/

We aren't in the same league as FGS and their federal member states.We can affort to pay for our large army and huge civil servant pool each month on time.

How do you collect tax from 90% unemployed market there is no interior taxes at all, your all drugged out. Who can u collect from, they just get boqol ku noole from diaspora and enjoy their food stamps basically, you can't tax someone who can only feed himself? where is this interior taxes you claim? plus businesses can't be taxed too much monthly or their no point operating a business as u lose all ur money, so their tax must be low or they will shut down and go elsewhere as your proving to be against the principles of business which is to turn over a profit.

What can those businesses make considering 90% are unemployed, it's just food stuff and probably internet on the phone, there is no other thing happening in your dust bowl.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The american ghettos and unemployed areas of America must be some huge tax base for the American economy, that's the argument this loser is making. How can anyone believe this guy when it defeats all rationality and logical processes and economical principles. He is saying it's thriving taxation in a frickin ghetto.

PL has way better airport infrastructure, it's modern standard then Somaliland but I do accept they have more customers at their airport. Just like Bosaso port is lower infrastructure but way more customers then berbera, we don't have one livestock ship sitting in our waters all year round.

There is no bagash or commercial goods coming off Somaliland at all, it's pure goats, sheeps, and camels which is very seasonal anyways and around hajj time basically. It's a dead economy that can't be backed up with people actually observing this so called high economic productivity nonsense these trolls are claiming. It's like the ghetto of america claiming to be the pinnacle of productivity in america.

At the end of the day 90% of somaliland have a 100 dollars each month sent as food stamps from the diaspora, some actually do buy food while others use it for khat and forget to pay the bills. That's the only the activity happening, totally dead and dark ages stuff.

That is the economic cycle from 90% of the people, food, rent, khat, it's rinse n repeat for decades. They buy just enuff food so they can survive to see the khat session basically which in itself is unproductive and just goes into their mouth and spat out lol. No productivity on any scale and the 10% are providing those services to cater for the 90%

 

[Zero]

How do you collect from 90% unemployed market there is no interior taxes at all, your all drugged out. Who can u collect from, they just get boqol ku noole from diaspora and enjoy their food stamps basically, you can't tax someone who can only feed himself? where is this interior taxes you claim?

Almost 30% of our GDP is derived from the livestock industry followed by 20% from wholesale and retail trade (including the informal sector), 8% from crops and 6% from real estate activities.You keep putting emphasis on a moot point.Don't try to compare Somaliland with your tuulo Puntland with a single source of revenue.

We actually have the population,major companies and small businesses to tax.

How our tax system works:

 

[DR OSMAN]

Almost 30% of our GDP is derived from the livestock industry followed by 20% from wholesale and retail trade (including the informal sector), 8% from crops and 6% from real estate activities.You keep putting emphasis on a moot point.Don't try to compare Somaliland with your tuulo Puntland with a single source of revenue.

We actually have the population,major companies and small businesses to tax.

How our tax system works:

You keep reading your shitty reports, when I just eye the landscape and count 10 people and 9 only have 100 dollars to their pocket and buy food with it and some dont even and spend it all on khat. Khat in itself is unproductive it has no positive knock on effect because it ends up being spat out on the ground, that's the end of it's productivity. So your 10% are pretty much just setting up drug population lazying, getting food stamps from overseas and drugging out 24/7. No amount of 5 workers in a coke factory will change 90% of the people doing what I just said.

 

[Zero]

The american ghettos and unemployed areas of America must be some huge tax base for the American economy, that's the argument this loser is making. How can anyone believe this guy when it defeats all rationality and logical processes and economical principles. He is saying it's thriving taxation in a frickin ghetto.

PL has way better airport infrastructure, it's modern standard then Somaliland but I do accept they have more customers at their airport. Just like Bosaso port is lower infrastructure but way more customers then berbera, we don't have one livestock ship sitting in our waters all year round.

There is no bagash or commercial goods coming off Somaliland at all, it's pure goats, sheeps, and camels which is very seasonal anyways and around hajj time basically. It's a dead economy that can't be backed up with people actually observing this so called high economic productivity nonsense these trolls are claiming. It's like the ghetto of america claiming to be the pinnacle of productivity in america.

At the end of the day 90% of somaliland have a 100 dollars each month sent as food stamps from the diaspora, some actually do buy food while others use it for khat and forget to pay the bills. That's the only the activity happening, totally dead and dark ages stuff.

That is the economic cycle from 90% of the people, food, rent, khat, it's rinse n repeat for decades. They buy just enuff food so they can survive to see the khat session basically which in itself is unproductive and just goes into their mouth and spat out lol. No productivity on any scale and the 10% are providing those services to cater for the 90%

They would be if they had a diaspore investing in their region and sending in money every month.You keep putting emphasis on a moot point.You are trying to compare Somaliland with your tuulo Puntland which has a single source of revenue.