Calling someone "Nayaa"

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Mercury

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The other day I told this Somali girl I know Nayaa and she actually got angry about it

I mean I'm from the north of Somalia and Nayaa/waryaa isn't offensive imo but saying aboowe/abayoo wouldn't go down well with me for a weird reason
 

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All these terms of endearment wouldn't have been uttered to total strangers/acquaintances back in the day. We've become a global society now and that's not what these terms were ever intended for. Abaayo/aboowe ended at cousins. Jaalle is the appropriate term for a stranger or colleague. Huuno should be for very close family or very very close friends.

Nayaa waryaa isn't appropriate unless it's in a jokey way with someone you're close to.
 
All these terms of endearment wouldn't have been uttered to total strangers/acquaintances back in the day. We've become a global society now and that's not what these terms were ever intended for. Abaayo/aboowe ended at cousins. Jaalle is the appropriate term for a stranger or colleague. Huuno should be for very close family or very very close friends.

Nayaa waryaa isn't appropriate unless it's in a jokey way with someone you're close to.

It never ended at cousins. It's always been the same even before our current globalized times. We always have been referring to eachother as "Aboowe Iyo Abaayo" and "Adeer Iyo Eedo"

It's something that exists in multiple cultures around the world that you call you your fellow ethnic unrelated people Brothers &Sisters "Abaayo" and "Aboowe". In Asia & Middle east it's a common thing as well.

You can't judge what is right or what is wrong simply by the standards/perspectives of the west. Perhaps because they are a more individualistic society compare to the rest. I see no problem in calling my fellow Somali "brother" or "sister"

It's a cultural thing It can be a term of endearment, politeness, or respect and symbolizes a closer relationship than just saying friend or something else.
 
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Why is "Nayaa" considered offensive in the first place? Last time I called a girl Nayaa she went ballistic & called me a stupid little twerp and told me to find some manners. I still don't get it, what is the history behind that word and why does it make Xalimos furious?

I mean it's just offensive for unexplained reasons.
 
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We always used 'walaal' and reserved abaayo/aboowe for family. I don't think it was normal to call unrelated strangers by those terms.

It's different with elders, they're always eedo/adeer out of respect.
 
We always used 'walaal' and reserved abaayo/aboowe for family. I don't think it was normal to call unrelated strangers by those terms.

It's different with elders, they're always eedo/adeer out of respect.

If we call eachother "Walaal" Iyo "walaalsha". Why would it be odd or off if we called eachother "Abaayo & Aboowe". Walaal means brother or sister/my sibling. Especially when we call our unrelated elders "auntie and "uncle" "eedo" Iyo "adeer"
 

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If we call eachother "Walaal" Iyo "walaalsha". Why would it be odd or off if we called eachother "Abaayo & Aboowe". Walaal means brother or sister/my sibling. Especially when we call our unrelated elders "auntie and "uncle" "eedo" Iyo "adeer"

Abaayo/aboowe is just cosier. You say that to your sisters and brothers. I call my aunts mama and hooyo but I put their names after it just to differentiate between my actual mother and her sisters. Eedo/adeer is special, uniform. Maybe it's just my family's rules.
 

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That makes no sense, if that was the case waryaa should be offensive but it isn't. People abuse & misuse the heck out of that term.

It's different for boys I guess. It doesn't have that dishonour attached. But boys are offended if girls call them waryaa, no?
 
It's different for boys I guess. It doesn't have that dishonour attached. But boys are offended if girls call them waryaa, no?

No we aren't offended at all, when we are called waryaa. The fact that you even had to ask serves to prove it.

Nayaa and Waryaa is the same in meaning. Yet only one is considered offensive, for unexplanatory reasons.
 

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The words have the same exact meaning but girls don't like it, we prefer walaal/walaalo or abaayo for some.
I've had 'nayaa' hollered at me aggressively so many times from boys in the street/in their car and it was like being called a /hoe from how they said it and their general behaviour.
 
It just is offensive, I have no idea why and tbh there's no need for an explanation as to why it is. Just don't say it, unless she deserves it o_O
 

Tramo

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it's about the context of the words, not the meanings. yes warya and nayaa have the same meaning, but they're used in different contexts/have different implications

it's like the word in english. dudes can be called bastards or w/e (or even ) but it's not offensive. when said to a girl (by a dude) it has sexist connotations. case in point, when a girl calls another girl a it's not nearly as offensive (it's even a term of endearment in some cases). it's all about the context
 
it's about the context of the words, not the meanings. yes warya and nayaa have the same meaning, but they're used in different contexts/have different implications

it's like the word in english. dudes can be called bastards or w/e (or even ) but it's not offensive. when said to a girl (by a dude) it has sexist connotations. case in point, when a girl calls another girl a it's not nearly as offensive (it's even a term of endearment in some cases). it's all about the context

Ok a girl saying waryaahe to a dude doesn't add a sexist connotation to it? Double standards much?
 

Tramo

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no, because words are used differently as I've already explained? I even gave a relevant parallel in a different language. do u want there to be sexist connotations? :lol: . I don't understand where ur coming from, u realize social dynamics influence these things right?

waryaahee actually is friendly in most contexts, especially in the north (even naayaahee actually). idk man, it's just ceeb to call a woman naayaa in our culture as it's demeaning, I don't see the point in trying to rationalize it by reducing it to simple etymology
 
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