Cenk Uygur TYT, running for congress

[Tukraq]

C'mon bruh, nobody is questioning that he has a certain factor that propelled him to the highest office in the U.S.
I actually believe this f**ker has some kind of genius and knows exactly how to pander to the sentiments of his constituents.
Y'all really think Trump is an academic of any caliber? Yes, he made it into an ivy-league school, albeit by way of his family's tremendous wealth and not by any merit of his own. In his circles it is more or less expected to have a degree from such a school but I doubt it signifies anything on behalf of his academic achievements or is worth the paper it is printed on.
I ascribe his political success partly to a ripe climate in large parts of the U.S., partly to some meddling and lastly to some kind of business savvy on his part, although he had to file for bankruptcy more than once.
Not hating, but Trump is not the name you would want to mention when talking about academic achievements, except you define the former as having a degree to your name.

then what in the world determines academic achievements if a degree at an ivy leauge school dosent? I don't see how anyone can do better academically then an ivy league grad thats basically top of the top unless your differentiating between ivy league schools or something because you don't think Wharton isn't as good a school as say Harvard, his degree was in economics by the way so more of a prestigious major

 

[Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer]

then what in the world determines academic achievements if a degree at an ivy leauge school dosent? I don't see how anyone can do better academically then an ivy league grad thats basically top of the top unless your differentiating between ivy league schools or something because you don't think Wharton isn't as good a school as say Harvard, his degree was in economics by the way so more of a prestigious major

I have to be fair and disclose that I am applying different metrics in the case of Trump since I doubt he would have made it into an upper-echelon school all by himself. Normally your criteria would apply but not in the case of a billionaire heir who has time and again proven his ineptitude across a plethora of fields. The man has a track-record of lying including the false claim that he graduated top of his class at Wharton. While in office, he sent letters to his former high-school and college, threatening them in case they publish his academic records.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christ...o-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/#49ef90263764
I certainly don't measure someones intelligence by a grade on a diploma or anything of that sort but for Trump to be considered an academic he'd have to outweigh the privileges that got him the spot at an ivy-league school with tangible metrics of good performance such as a higher than average GPA or some sort of meaningful research published in peer-reviewed papers. I know it's not fair to apply different criteria but I have strong doubts that Trumps academic track-record is anything more than nominal - no substance to it whatsoever, I'm afraid.

 

[Tukraq]

I have to be fair and disclose that I am applying different metrics in the case of Trump since I doubt he would have made it into an upper-echelon school all by himself. Normally your criteria would apply but not in the case of a billionaire heir who has time and again proven his ineptitude across a plethora of fields. The man has a track-record of lying including the false claim that he graduated top of his class at Wharton. While in office, he sent letters to his former high-school and college, threatening them in case they publish his academic records.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christ...o-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/#49ef90263764
I certainly don't measure someones intelligence by a grade on a diploma or anything of that sort but for Trump to be considered an academic he'd have to outweigh the privileges that got him the spot at an ivy-league school with tangible metrics of good performance such as a higher than average GPA or some sort of meaningful research published in peer-reviewed papers. I know it's not fair to apply different criteria but I have strong doubts that Trumps academic track-record is anything more than nominal - no substance to it whatsoever, I'm afraid.

wait I thought we were talking about academic success not intelligence which is a completely different thing

 

[Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer]

wait I thought we were talking about academic success not intelligence which is a completely different thing

You argued: graduating from ivy-league school = academic success
I was responding: Trump graduating from ivy-league school = might have as well bought the diploma, since I doubt his capacity.
Yes I was implying intelligence being a factor in this case. I also doubt his work-ethic and his academic integrity.

 

[Tukraq]

You argued: graduating from ivy-league school = academic success
I was responding: Trump graduating from ivy-league school = might have as well bought the diploma, since I doubt his capacity.
Yes I was implying intelligence being a factor in this case. I also doubt his work-ethic and his academic integrity.

like I said intelligence and academic success aren't the same thing as you can have academic success with low or average intelligence and many that have extremely high intelligence dropout anyways so never achieve academic success, anyways why would you doubt his work ethic? he's work ethic is one thing I wouldn't question as he's proven to be a workhorse(due dosent even get rest in lol), I can see why you would doubt his integrity though

 

[Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer]

like I said intelligence and academic success aren't the same thing as you can have academic success with low or average intelligence and many that have extremely high intelligence dropout anyways so never achieve academic success, anyways why would you doubt his work ethic? he's work ethic is one thing I wouldn't question as he's proven to be a workhorse(due dosent even get rest in lol), I can see why you would doubt his integrity though

I know that students of average intelligence can be as likely or more likely to have academic success compared to their peers of higher intelligence. That's why I included work-ethic and integrity as factors to consider. I mean work-ethic strictly in the academic sense. I can't picture Trump hitting the library and poring over books hours on end to compensate for his average intelligence. The man does not read as many of his former staff confirmed! On the other hand I can picture him working out ways to cheat the system and hustling other students into doing work for him for some bribe money.

 

[Jiron]

Wait ur the legendary king of optimism @Jiron himself nice to meet u

thanks for the high praise my dear brother, pleasure to meet you

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

i believe it. i have a turkish friend who still denies the armenian genocide no matter how much proof i showcase to her. turks = hardcore nationalists.

Turks needs to get real....denying it happened is just so stupid.

 

[Helios]

No political benefit of doing it, plus Armenia is a weak negligible nation so why atone for an embarrassing crime?