Debunking Ottoman Involvement in Adal-Abyssinian War

In this thread I’ll debunk the Ethiopian it’s lie that the Ottomans played any part in the Ethiopian Adal War or that the Ethiopians lost due to lack of armaments or any other technological difference. The truth is that this is all fanciful Ethiopianist cope, Ethiopians historically had far more help than Adal.

Emperor Yeshaq I of Abyssinia was the first to ever posses firepower in horn african history, given by turks from egypt, these same Muslim turks trained his army and reorganised it
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41965823?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
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Some historians say they may have also taught him the secrets of greek fire or something similar, in the end Yeshaq still lost in 3 decisive battles agaisnt Sultan Jamaluddin Il and was killed at the Battle of Harjah
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k58079963/f221.item.r=grecque.zoom
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Now lets fast forward to the 16th century, before the conquest of Abyssinia Lebna Dengel was already acquiring firearms from Turks again, he used those firearms to put an end to the 24 years long conquest in Abyssinia that Imam Mahfuz was leading
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Leo Africanus in 1526 right before the war puts the number of cannons possessed by the Ethiopians at 14 Iron Pieces which they had purchased from the Turks. Africanus cites this information from Francisco Alvarez, a Portoguese missionary and explorer who personally stayed in the emperors court.
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The Futuh also mentions 8 cannons belonging to the Christians which they abandoned during their retreat from Dawaro

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Ottomans were very new in the region having only conquered Yemen in 1538 after Ahmed had already conquered the entirety of Abyssinia, the government in Constantinople probably wasn’t even aware of what was going on there.
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The so called Turks mentioned by European sources are in fact most likely Yemenis from Aden and Zabid who were erroneously referred to as Turks.
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In this thread I’ll debunk the Ethiopian it’s lie that the Ottomans played any part in the Ethiopian Adal War or that the Ethiopians lost due to lack of armaments or any other technological difference. The truth is that this is all fanciful Ethiopianist cope, Ethiopians historically had far more help than Adal.

Emperor Yeshaq I of Abyssinia was the first to ever posses firepower in horn african history, given by turks from egypt, these same Muslim turks trained his army and reorganised it
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41965823?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
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Some historians say they may have also taught him the secrets of greek fire or something similar, in the end Yeshaq still lost in 3 decisive battles agaisnt Sultan Jamaluddin Il and was killed at the Battle of Harjah
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k58079963/f221.item.r=grecque.zoom
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Now lets fast forward to the 16th century, before the conquest of Abyssinia Lebna Dengel was already acquiring firearms from Turks again, he used those firearms to put an end to the 24 years long conquest in Abyssinia that Imam Mahfuz was leading
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Leo Africanus in 1526 right before the war puts the number of cannons possessed by the Ethiopians at 14 Iron Pieces which they had purchased from the Turks. Africanus cites this information from Francisco Alvarez, a Portoguese missionary and explorer who personally stayed in the emperors court.
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The Futuh also mentions 8 cannons belonging to the Christians which they abandoned during their retreat from Dawaro

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Ottomans were very new in the region having only conquered Yemen in 1538 after Ahmed had already conquered the entirety of Abyssinia, the government in Constantinople probably wasn’t even aware of what was going on there.
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The so called Turks mentioned by European sources are in fact most likely Yemenis from Aden and Zabid who were erroneously referred to as Turks.
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The Turks were involved via their Yemeni state.
 

Aseer

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Wait so how did we have larger fire-power than them if they were more ahead.
 
So what made us superior to them in warfare.
mindset and being brave also Muslim armies back then were not scared of death imagine going to war with your enemy and deep down you know he wants to die and wouldn’t care it’s the exact same reason the first caliphates of Saudi Arabia spread quickly telling a bunch of guys you will go to heaven if you fight for the sake of Islam they will fight hard
 
Lolwut. So where did the Adalites got their firearms then? Why did the Ethiopians easily run away at Shimbra Kure?
 
Lolwut. So where did the Adalites got their firearms then? Why did the Ethiopians easily run away at Shimbra Kure?
Adalites got their firearms from trading with Yemen Ethiopia also had firearms. Ethiopians also didn’t easily run at Shimbira Kure
 

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Question why do Ethiopians claim adal was minority Somali they say majority of the people were argobba harari and afar is that true
They are just coping and this false narrative they made up was debunked many times,adal was majority somali and then followed by Afar and harari and some habesha Muslims here and there and Yemeni expeditionary, the only people who have claims to adal is the somalis, afars and hararis.
 

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Adalites got their firearms from trading with Yemen Ethiopia also had firearms. Ethiopians also didn’t easily run at Shimbira Kure
But wait did we not have more cannons than them and larger fire-power since when the Portuguese arrived they saw how lacking the ethiopians were in modern weapons and although they were introduced to it they never had that much.
 
They are just coping and this false narrative they made up was debunked many times,adal was majority somali and then followed by Afar and harari and some habesha Muslims here and there and Yemeni expeditionary, the only people who have claims to adal is the somalis, afars and hararis.
Afars were never part of adal, modern hararis weren't either. Other habashi Muslims present in the futuh would be converted tigriyans that's all.
 

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Afars were never part of adal, modern hararis weren't either. Other habashi Muslims present in the futuh would be converted tigriyans that's all.
Really? Do you have sources to back this claim?
 
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