Do today’s Somali women carry on Xaawo Taako’s AUN legacy?

[somalipatriot]

A tribute to our haweenka @Qeelbax @Unbothered

 

[Dima&Damo]

Why Do People Say She Wed An Italian

 

[somalipatriot]

Why Do People Say She Wed An Italian

The same way a Italian prince

Luigi Amedeo, Duke of the Abruzzi was married to a Somali woman same goes for giorgio marincola’s father a Italian army officer who married his mother who was also Somali​

 

[Dima&Damo]

The same way a Italian prince

Luigi Amedeo, Duke of the Abruzzi was married to a Somali woman same goes for giorgio marincola’s father a Italian army officer who married his mother who was also Somali​

Man The South

 

[Gadhwayne]

Xaawa Taako was the common-law wife of an Itaalian colonist. She was martyred in a riot between pro Italy and anti Italian colonialism mobs. The Italians honor her sacrifice. Italy thanks her for trying to save Italian colonist lives. Afweyne honored this lady from south Jigjiga region because of clannist reasons even though he gave up Jigjiga to Mengistu and he stole much of Alta Giuba from Absame. And, Afweyne agreed with Xaawa on Italian colonialism was good for Somalia Italianaa. While USC was chasing Afweyne in 1991, he took some time with an Italian journalist. He told her that Italian colonialism was good for SomaliaItaliana. W hat did we expect from an Italian colonial policeman

La giornata si concluse con 54 italiani e 14 somali uccisi. Tra questi somali a Mogadiscio vi era Hawo Tako, sposata con un autotrasportatore italiano, che perse la vita nell’intento di fermare l’eccidio e proteggere gli italiani, così come gli altri somali che persero la vita.

54 Italians killed. Xaawa Taako, the common-law wife of an Italian colonist, died trying to save Italian colonist lives

Xaawa Taako iyo ninkeedi oo Talyaaniga ahaa iyo 53 kale oo Talyaani ah ayaa ku geeriyooday rabshado ey Talyaanigu qorsheeyeen

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[Unbothered]

Some claim she was a freedom fighter and some say she married a colonist

 

[Woke1.4rm.Shibis]

Xaawa Taako was the common-law wife of an Itaalian colonist. She was martyred in a riot between pro Italy and anti Italian colonialism mobs. The Italians honor her sacrifice. Italy thanks her for trying to save Italian colonist lives. Afweyne honored this lady from south Jigjiga region because of clannist reasons even though he gave up Jigjiga to Mengistu and he stole much of Alta Giuba from Absame. And, Afweyne agreed with Xaawa on Italian colonialism was good for Somalia Italianaa. While USC was chasing Afweyne in 1991, he took some time with an Italian journalist. He told her that Italian colonialism was good for SomaliaItaliana. W hat did we expect from an Italian colonial policeman

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This is propably the only post I agree with you.
Xawo tako was married to an italian officer but I have to correct you she wasnt even absame but a reer xamar cad cad from the shanshi subclan clan.

The character xawo tako and many other Italians and pro italian somalis died from the swords and arrows of the anti colonial geeljire warriors who belong to wacdan cisman and wacbudhan subclans that lived in the interior of xamar at that time.
Afweyne not only made her out to be something she wasnt he also changed her qabiil to make his qabil into heroes .
There were hardly any daroods that lived in xamar at that time the only daroods that lived in xamar were all brought down by the Italians with the exception of nux maxamuud subclan.

 

[somalipatriot]

Xaawa Taako was the common-law wife of an Itaalian colonist. She was martyred in a riot between pro Italy and anti Italian colonialism mobs. The Italians honor her sacrifice. Italy thanks her for trying to save Italian colonist lives. Afweyne honored this lady from south Jigjiga region because of clannist reasons even though he gave up Jigjiga to Mengistu and he stole much of Alta Giuba from Absame. And, Afweyne agreed with Xaawa on Italian colonialism was good for Somalia Italianaa. While USC was chasing Afweyne in 1991, he took some time with an Italian journalist. He told her that Italian colonialism was good for SomaliaItaliana. W hat did we expect from an Italian colonial policeman

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You’re twisting things In his last televised interview taped in gedo 1991 with Italian news channel rai he along with half brother AUN abderahman jama barre explained his
his goal of recapturing xamar from usc rebels his most important point during the interview was : Siad barre builded Somalia he did not destroy it

 

[somalipatriot]

Xaawa Taako was the common-law wife of an Itaalian colonist. She was martyred in a riot between pro Italy and anti Italian colonialism mobs. The Italians honor her sacrifice. Italy thanks her for trying to save Italian colonist lives. Afweyne honored this lady from south Jigjiga region because of clannist reasons even though he gave up Jigjiga to Mengistu and he stole much of Alta Giuba from Absame. And, Afweyne agreed with Xaawa on Italian colonialism was good for Somalia Italianaa. While USC was chasing Afweyne in 1991, he took some time with an Italian journalist. He told her that Italian colonialism was good for SomaliaItaliana. W hat did we expect from an Italian colonial policeman

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Here is the link 1991 Mogadishu the ones in the video Omar arteh Ali Mahdi usc rebels :

Il Sacco di Mogadiscio - Love Sahara | Old VHS | Documentari su Africa e Sahara anni 80 e 90

Il Sacco di Mogadiscio

www.lovesahara.com

 

[Som]

Why Do People Say She Wed An Italian

Because some people on this website are either extremely anti somali and love lying about their people. There's a few nostalgic pro fascist Italian websites who portray Hawo Tako as a pro Italian lady who was married with an Italian, that's BS with zero proof. All reputable sources say Hawo Tako was part of the pro SYL protest.

 

[Som]

Xaawa Taako was the common-law wife of an Itaalian colonist. She was martyred in a riot between pro Italy and anti Italian colonialism mobs. The Italians honor her sacrifice. Italy thanks her for trying to save Italian colonist lives. Afweyne honored this lady from south Jigjiga region because of clannist reasons even though he gave up Jigjiga to Mengistu and he stole much of Alta Giuba from Absame. And, Afweyne agreed with Xaawa on Italian colonialism was good for Somalia Italianaa. While USC was chasing Afweyne in 1991, he took some time with an Italian journalist. He told her that Italian colonialism was good for SomaliaItaliana. W hat did we expect from an Italian colonial policeman

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A random Italian website isn't a proof of anything. The only sources you have are from pro fascist Italian blogs. All reputable sources agree that Hawo Tako was against the Italians, if she was the wife of an Italian occupier I challenge you to bring out his name and what happened to him. The Italians have the list of people who died in the clashes, if your claim is true you should easily find out the name if not it's BS anti somali propaganda that you copied from an Italian pro colonial website. Stop lying about Somali history

 

[Som]

Italian nostalgics lie all the time, they even claim Somalis were pro Italian when in reality SYL was the most popular party and had very strong anti Italian sentiments. They claim the 1948 protesters were all reer waqooyi SYL Brought by the British when in reality SYL had a stronger presence in the south rather than in the north which had other nationalist parties.
I wonder why antisomali self haters keep repeating some random stuff they read from gaalos blogs. It doesn't make any sense, Hawo Tako and Dhagaxtuur were both built to honor pro SYL protestors, why would the government build Dhagaxtuur if they were pro Italian?

 

[Gadhwayne]

A random Italian website isn't a proof of anything. The only sources you have are from pro fascist Italian blogs. All reputable sources agree that Hawo Tako was against the Italians, if she was the wife of an Italian occupier I challenge you to bring out his name and what happened to him. The Italians have the list of people who died in the clashes, if your claim is true you should easily find out the name if not it's BS anti somali propaganda that you copied from an Italian pro colonial website. Stop lying about Somali history

Lets pretend the Italians would lie about an Italian colonist having a concubine in SomaliaItaliana. Since you want this XaawaTaako lady celebrated as a marty/heroine, then you have the burden of proof. Prove that she was the hero you claim she is

This is propably the only post I agree with you.
Xawo tako was married to an italian officer but I have to correct you she wasnt even absame but a reer xamar cad cad from the shanshi subclan clan

That makes sense also and Afweyne was still portraying her in clannist terms

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Her clan should be irrelevant and Afweyne apologists shouldnt have raised the clan issue

 

[Som]

Lets pretend the Italians would lie about an Italian colonist having a concubine in SomaliaItaliana. Since you want this XaawaTaako lady celebrated as a marty/heroine, then you have the burden of proof. Prove that she was the hero you claim she is



That makes sense also and Afweyne was still portraying her in clannist terms

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Her clan should be irrelevant and Afweyne apologists shouldnt have raised the clan issue

Hawo Tako is just a symbol. She was one of the many people killed that day, since we don't have records we can only speculate but the true meaning of her is being symbol against colonialism.
Italians had better records, the burden of proof is on you. If you say she was married to an Italian who was killed during the protest bring his name, Italians have the list of their casualties. All of the claims about her being pro Italian are from one single pro colonialism website in Italian that was copied by other websites. That's it. For basically any other source in English Hawo Tako is described as a random woman who was killed in the protest and became the symbol of anti colonialism.

 

[Gadhwayne]

Hawo Tako is just a symbol. She was one of the many people killed that day, since we don't have records we can only speculate but the true meaning of her is being symbol against colonialism.
Italians had better records, the burden of proof is on you. If you say she was married to an Italian who was killed during the protest bring his name, Italians have the list of their casualties. All of the claims about her being pro Italian are from one single pro colonialism website in Italian that was copied by other websites. That's it. For basically any other source in English Hawo Tako is described as a random woman who was killed in the protest and became the symbol of anti colonialism.

I already agreed to discard modern Italian sources praising her as the concubine of an Italian colonist. The discussion now is was she an hero or not

I dont have to prove anything unless I make claims about her heroics.

You made claims about her heroics. You have the burden of proof if you claim she acted heroic. Bring original sources from the colonial era. Prove that she was the heroine you say she was

 

[Som]

I already agreed to discard modern Italian sources praising her as the concubine of an Italian colonist. The discussion now is was she an hero or not

I dont have to prove anything unless I make claims about her heroics.

You made claims about her heroics. You have the burden of proof if you claim she acted heroic. Bring original sources from the colonial era. Prove that she was the heroine you say she was

Ok now that we agree that the Italian blogs are unreliable I'll try to make my case.
Hawo Tako was just a random woman who was killed , she became a symbol of ALL of those who took part in the protest against the Italians, the details about what she did specially are not important. Hawo Tako became a symbol just like Dhagaxtuur who isn't an actual person but s symbol of all anti colonialism protestors. When it comes to symbols what matters is why they become important how people interpret them. That's my opinion and I believe that's the reason why the monument was built.

 

[Woke1.4rm.Shibis]

Ok now that we agree that the Italian blogs are unreliable I'll try to make my case.
Hawo Tako was just a random woman who was killed , she became a symbol of ALL of those who took part in the protest against the Italians, the details about what she did specially are not important. Hawo Tako became a symbol just like Dhagaxtuur who isn't an actual person but s symbol of all anti colonialism protestors. When it comes to symbols what matters is why they become important how people interpret them. That's my opinion and I believe that's the reason why the monument was built.

So your not going to bring proof of evidence how the character xawo taako was a hero ?
What year was this character statue build In xamar ?

 

[Gadhwayne]

Ok now that we agree that the Italian blogs are unreliable I'll try to make my case.
Hawo Tako was just a random woman who was killed , she became a symbol of ALL of those who took part in the protest against the Italians, the details about what she did specially are not important. Hawo Tako became a symbol just like Dhagaxtuur who isn't an actual person but s symbol of all anti colonialism protestors. When it comes to symbols what matters is why they become important how people interpret them. That's my opinion and I believe that's the reason why the monument was built.

In that case build the monument in westCaabudwaaq and west Gedo. Let Muqdisho residents choose their own heros and heroines. There are plenty of real heros from Benaadir/Shabelle/Galmudug regions before we get to the randomn woman who perished in an Itliana riot. Maybe start with Gaafle and other heros ignored by Afweyne regime for clannist reasons

So your not going to bring proof of evidence how the character xawo taako was a hero ?
What year was this character statue build In xamar ?

Can you add to the list of heros Afweyne ignored for clannist reasons

 

[Som]

So your not going to bring proof of evidence how the character xawo taako was a hero ?
What year was this character statue build In xamar ?

I already explained that she was a single random woman who died and was transformed into a symbol.

 

[Som]

In that case build the monument in westCaabudwaaq and west Gedo. Let Muqdisho residents choose their own heros and heroines. There are plenty of real heros from Benaadir/Shabelle/Galmudug regions before we get to the randomn woman who perished in an Itliana riot. Maybe start with Gaafle and other heros ignored by Afweyne regime for clannist reasons



Can you add to the list of heros Afweyne ignored for clannist reasons

Dude nobody said hawo Tako was Marehan. Siyaad honored non MX people like the Sayyid. Anyway I'm in favor of all nationalist heroes no matter their qabil