Do Western women gain from divorce? 🤔

Average women in the West gain from divorce:

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 75.9%
  • No

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Total voters
    29
Amongst young men, there is this view that women go out of their way to get a divorce so that they can get a fat cash pay out. This doesn’t make sense for a number of reasons:

1. Most people in the USA and the UK have no real saving that one can live off for at least half a year. Most people are cash poor.

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2. The data shows that women don’t gain much from a divorce and in fact become poorer:

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In fact, women become poorer when divorced than men do on average:

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3. Unfortunately, poorer people are much more likely to get divorce. So to put it into perspective, it’s usually poorer men whom there is nothing to take who are mostly getting divorced.

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Also, homeowners and educated men and women with college education are also less likely to divorce:

4. Contrary to popular belief, Women who are more likely to divorce: are from lower classes, have no education, no career, and poor husbands.

5. Women are less likely to divorce their rich husbands, in fact one of the main reason for divorce is due to financial reasons, cheating and communication issues:

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6. Now let’s look at the average child support a woman in America gets:

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Furthermore, more than half, do not even receive that.

7. The financial trajectory for women following a divorce is also the opposite of what you would expect if it were lucrative. Higher likelihood of poverty immediately following that eases over time as they re-enter the workplace.
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The data seems consistent everywhere, hence why are redpillers, even normal men, recently Islamic YouTube speakers all creating the narrative that women on average amongst the average population gain from divorce? What is going on? Isn’t this false information ruining how young men view relationships?

Now if you're a multimillionaire and you don't want to be fleeced by a gold-digger that is not irrational. By all means be careful if you know that you're a valuable mark. But this is not what is happening with most divorces.
 
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My guess would be it's part of an agenda to put people off marriage and make men and women suspicious of each other. Red pill teaches men they get screwed over by marriage, feminism teaches women marriage was created by patriarchal societies to control them. The strings are likely being pulled by the same people.
 
My guess would be it's part of an agenda to put people off marriage and make men and women suspicious of each other. Red pill teaches men they get screwed over by marriage, feminism teaches women marriage was created by patriarchal societies to control them. The strings are likely being pulled by the same people.
Yep, I do too. But why would Islamic YouTubers like MH and Ali Dawah peddle this as well? Isn’t ignorance? Misogyny? What’s even more alarming is that I wager the poverty levels post for women of color especially for Muslim women is higher.

We’ve always been fed that divorced men fare worse and high profile cases of very rich men paying alimony is used to incite the average man when generally speaking with regards to the general population, it’s mothers that suffer more and become poorer during a divorce.

With regards to the idea of young women being fed that marriage is bad, that’s also
terrible. Women in supportive and happy marriages have a better quality of life.
 
Of course they get that single mother welfare cheque and some alimony :reallymaury:
Yep, someone didn’t read the thread. Divorced women become poorer than divorced men. Poor couples are much more likely to divorce. Also, alimony is usually something only less than 5% of women get who are in the top % in terms of finances.
 

TekNiKo

Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
Yep, someone didn’t read the thread. Divorced women become poorer than divorced men. Poor couples are much more likely to divorce. Also, alimony is usually something only less than 5% of women get who are in the top % in terms of finances.
I dont know about the UK but a single divorcee or baby mamain Canada has a much higher chance of being housed and catered for.

For example all a woman has to say is she came from an abusive relationship and is single mother and Canadian government will put her on priority to gain subsidizdd housing within 6 months.


A single man would have to wait 10 years.
 
I dont know about the UK but a single divorcee or baby mamain Canada has a much higher chance of being housed and catered for.
Would you rather the children lived on the street? Like I mentioned divorced people are much more likely to be poorer with lower home ownership. The women end up even poorer than the husband.
For example all a woman has to say is she came from an abusive relationship and is single and Canadian government will put her on priority to gain subsidizdd housing within 6 months.
Yep, but how does that disadvantage a man in terms of a marriage and divorce? How are women gaining from their husbands? Doesn’t go against the overwhelming narrative that upon divorce women get high child support and alimony and that men suffer more?
A single man would have to wait 10 years.
 

Mozart

You need people like me
This is irrelevant in the context most Muslim women want to get married in. Signing a legal marriage contract and becoming a stay at home mother is the same ploy white women used decades ago. The impact of divorce is over-stated in all other cases.
 
that ain't a lot since many of y'all are broke or don't have much savings to even begin with :mybusiness:
1.The average man and women do not even have more than 6 months saving.

2. Poorer men who don’t have much savings and aren’t homeowners have higher rates of divorce.

3. richer people who are educated have lower divorce.

Hence you’re right, on average a divorced man doesn’t have much to offer.
 
Yep, I do too. But why would Islamic YouTubers like MH and Ali Dawah peddle this as well? Isn’t ignorance? Misogyny? What’s even more alarming is that I wager the poverty levels post for women of color especially for Muslim women is higher.

I don't know. Perhaps they use red pill talking points to counter feminism? They see the latter as a more pressing societal issue and in their attempt to counter it got sucked into the whole red pill stuff.
 
This is irrelevant in the context most Muslim women want to get married in. Signing a legal marriage contract and becoming a stay at home mother is the same ploy white women used decades ago. The impact of divorce is over-stated in all other cases.
It’s very relevant much so as we tend to have higher rates of poverty due to being ethnic minority who are new to the West and gain even less upon divorce. We see that play out in our community, yet you have young Abdi the Uber driver talking about alimony and women in the West.
 
Women may not necessarily gain a lot from the man himself unless he is a top earner but they do gain things in comparison to men out of the divorce externally through government assistance.
Women are in general prioritised which is why there is for example a 70 to 30 split between the levels of homelessness between men and women in the west.
And If she's struggling with a broke man and I have heard this argument countless times before she might aswell struggle alone with government assistance.

This is irrelevant to the context of the somali people tho
 

Mozart

You need people like me
It’s very relevant much so as we tend to have higher rates of poverty due to being ethnic minority who are new to the West and gain even less upon divorce. We see that play out in our community, yet you have young Abdi the Uber driver talking about alimony and women in the West.
Those guys aren’t the ones who take issue with divorce. They’re irresponsible in regards to marriage and children. Women wouldn’t be rattled if it were about those guys either.

If you’re a younger guy with a high earning potential, marriage the way Muslim women want to go about it is a fool’s game.
 
Those guys aren’t the ones who take issue with divorce. They’re irresponsible in regards to marriage and children. Women wouldn’t be rattled if it were about those guys either.

If you’re a younger guy with a high earning potential, marriage the way Muslim women want to go about it is a fool’s game.
Imagine being the danyeer who paid high meher AND did a legal marriage :damn:
 
Imagine being the danyeer who paid high meher AND did a legal marriage :damn:
I believe in the uk your marriage even if you don't go about it officially through the government as long as your married through religion or even just long term partners your still judged as if your a legal couple. I could be wrong tho so the same rules apply.
 
Those guys aren’t the ones who take issue with divorce. They’re irresponsible in regards to marriage and children. Women wouldn’t be rattled if it were about those guys either.

If you’re a younger guy with a high earning potential, marriage the way Muslim women want to go about it is a fool’s game.
In what way would it be a fool’s game when men and women with higher earning potential, education and sorry to put it out there higher IQ have much lower divorce rates? Also, how do Muslim women go about when the younger generations of women mostly work with professional aspirations of their own?
 

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