Ethiopia’s Peaceful Uprising is Evolving into an Armed Resistance

[maestro]

Wishful thinking. Who's going to be securing K5 that stretches from Djibouti to the Kenya border? You think the Somalis in K5 are different than the ones who been fighting for a quarter century in Somalia? In the event of a civil war, Somalis will have each clan securing their strongholds and fighting among themselves for disputed lands until they're subjugated again by whoever wins in the highlands.

No wishful thinking here. Liyuu police are already doing well keeping Oromo at bay and securing the borders. They operate all over the region. Also Right now there is no single clan wars in the region and no disputed land what the hell are you on about? everyone has full control of their regions and seem to be getting along just fine. An Issa in Shinile and a Garre in Liban all know where they belong and who they are up against.

One of the problems we might face is leadership but we're probably ok on that too since a lot of Barre veterans have gone back and currently work for the DDSI. Other than that we have a very big advantage over the Oromo because Somalia has many ports and we can ask for support and backup from any country. Importing weapons through these ports changes the game because everyone else is landlocked unless Eritrea suddenly becomes friends with the Ethiopians.

The other problem is allies. The west have always had the backs of Habesha so that's the only big issue we might face.

Some form of unity + some form of an army + ports + some form of leadership = Biggest opportunity of secession since 1977. No subjugation will take place unless the west interferes and keeps the Highlanders in power.

 

[RedStar]

@Dire Dewa's son I've always wanted to know the relationship between Sheikhash and Hararis. Both parties claim each other, so are the Sheikhash part of Hararis or are the Hararis part of Sheikhash?

 

[Dire Dewa's son]

@Dire Dewa's son I've always wanted to know the relationship between Sheikhash and Hararis. Both parties claim each other, so are the Sheikhash part of Hararis or are the Hararis part of Sheikhash?

Good question. My very biased opinion is that they split from Harari BUT if you study many texts they will always mention them being Somali origin so I don't think we can rule both possibilities out but the first would seem more logical who knows Harla (ancient) history is mysterious sometimes.

 

[Gilgamesh]

No wishful thinking here. Liyuu police are already doing well keeping Oromo at bay and securing the borders. They operate all over the region. Also Right now there is no single clan wars in the region and no disputed land what the hell are you on about? everyone has full control of their regions and seem to be getting along just fine. An Issa in Shinile and a Garre in Liban all know where they belong and who they are up against.

One of the problems we might face is leadership but we're probably ok on that too since a lot of Barre veterans have gone back and currently work for the DDSI. Other than that we have a very big advantage over the Oromo because Somalia has many ports and we can ask for support and backup from any country. Importing weapons through these ports changes the game because everyone else is landlocked unless Eritrea suddenly becomes friends with the Ethiopians.

The other problem is allies. The west have always had the backs of Habesha so that's the only big issue we might face.

Some form of unity + some form of an army + ports + some form of leadership = Biggest opportunity of secession since 1977. No subjugation will take place unless the west interferes and keeps the Highlanders in power.

The reason why there is no clan wars or fights over disputed grazing lands is because everyone has been beaten into submission by the Liyu which derives it's legitimacy from the Ethiopian Central government. The only reason why Liyu operates all over is because everyone knows even if you kill 50 of them, another 50 will be sent in to replace them and your village will be torched. Now you think these ragtag murdering militias are going to be welcomed by people who have been oppressed by them for all these years? Remove them from the equation and they're going to be concerned more about reer hebel potentially gaining an advantage over them instead of working together to safeguard their independence. Allies, importation of weapons and anything else is pointless when there isn't even a united front.

 

[Winchester76]

We keep deporting Ethiopians beggars day and night
http://www.somalilandlaw.com/Lindley_Sieeking_Refuge_in_SL.pdf

You deport fellow Muslim Oromo not real Xabashis

 

[Winchester76]

Also a few people does not compare to the refugees Somalis have in Ethiopia and Kenya which are literally hundreds of thousands

 

[Young Popeye]

The K5 is largely flat lowlands, it's very hard to secure it without an organized army. It's the reason why the Somali army back in 77 steamrolled with relative ease but stared having trouble taking higher hilly/mountain elevation particularly around Harar. Some khat chewing skinnies with teknikos are not going to be able to do shit especially when their population is like 10x greater.

Menelik established the national army at Harar aka the buffer zone. The Somali army was about to take Harar but were advised to hold off because an outright collision with the large ethiopian army would occur . Had the Somali army taken Harar, the Ethiopians/USSR/cuba would bombard the city trying to hit Somali rebels causing mass civilian causalities. This is why they decided, the Ethiopians to come to them away from the town. There's stupid rumors saying they were too tired or the city elevation was too high etc

 

[Canuck]

You deport fellow Muslim Oromo not real Xabashis

They have their own country oromia !!!!!!

 

[Canuck]

Also a few people does not compare to the refugees Somalis have in Ethiopia and Kenya which are literally hundreds of thousands

Somalis in Ethiopia live in their ancestral land( Ogaden)and same in Kenya no one is refugee in his ancestral land.

 

[Canuck]

@Canuck god bless for you undying patriotism and fight to the finish

The best situation for us as Somalis, is a quagmire were each sides makes gains then looses until Somalia reaches a state it can build itself up.

Currently because of geopolitics Ethiopia has changed from bitter foe to friend, but it's a little too late, a lot of it had to do with investments from China and plans to make them the hub of the region, this goes against the American-EUA Axis and hence the destabilisation they are doing to undermine China silk road strategy and her quest for resources to challenge the incumbent empire.

I still can't trust these bastards entirely despite their switch, a perpetual quagmire is the most desired option for us, one which is fought in only a few parts in the country and not wide scale to the point we have to deal with refugee exodus hordes.

In fact speaking of refugees it may actually be a good thing anyway, those refugees will flood towards the former Pro Ethiopian, Anti Somaliweyne camps of S/land and P/land, this will embolden their population, change the mood to Somalinimo because their way of life is being threatened.

Every geopolitical moves happening in the region is benefiting Somalia so far, no matter which directions things go. Happy days are to come.

Thank walalo and Somalia ha nolato

 

[Winchester76]

Somalis in Ethiopia live in their ancestral land( Ogaden)and same in Kenya no one is refugee in his ancestral land.

Those lands are legally under Ethiopia and Kenya ancestral or not they are not under the jurisdiction of the failed Somali state

 

[flyman]

If you look at history it has a tendency of repeating itself.
1) The xabash have before attempted to destroy the kaaba
2) The Somalis having nomadic culture still embedded would be too proud to go to Makkah just for a Kiswa.
3) Our culture doesn't encourage stealing and its looked down upon. Again we believe we can do better than taking from others
4) The chances of Somalis to have such a big population of Ex-muslims is too low
5) Xabash are historic enemies with arabs as well, with one point controlling Yemen before Islam and after Islam became slaves. There hatred for Arab Muslims is stronger.
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habash didn't control all of Yemen, It was only a small part of western Yemen. Yemen at that time was not united and it was very tribal so the other tribes didn't really care. And Arabia at that time was one of the most backward places on earth. Despite that, habash could only control a small part of Yemen with the help of the Romans, even then they couldn't fight on their own. The south western Yemenis got weapons and training from the persians and then defeated the habash and sold the prisoners of war slaves.

Yemenis are dumb anyway they mixed with habesh and turned them light skinned, and many of the christian habash don't even acknowledge their Arab blood.

 

[flyman]

Nope, Somalis were never called habashi, but were the Berber/Zelia people.

darood jeberti was habash expelled from yemen. he is the founder of the darood tribe.
Only somalilanders are berberis not somalis. somalis were ruled by Omanis at that time.

 

[flyman]

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No the term Berber and land of Berber was always referred to somalis before ibn battuta (who was Berber from Morocco not Arab) came to Somalia.
For example Ibn Khaldun used: 'To the south of Zeila on the western coast of the Indian Ocean are the villages of Berbera, which extend one after the other all along the southern coast [of the Indian Ocean] to the end of the sixth section. There, to the east, the country of the Zanj adjoins them'"

Berberis were ONLY somalilanders. somalis were ruled by Omanis.

 

[flyman]

Somaliland is part of somalia. Until then she has the right to use it. We are all ethnically somali so stop this nonsense please.

Somalialnd is not a part of somalia if you want to be somali then go to somalia

 

[Canuck]

darood jeberti was habash expelled from yemen. he is the founder of the darood tribe.
Only somalilanders are berberis not somalis. somalis were ruled by Omanis at that time.

Oman didn't exist at that time bye

 

[Canuck]

Those lands are legally under Ethiopia and Kenya ancestral or not they are not under the jurisdiction of the failed Somali state

This failed country is like Dubai for your people, you walked on feet to beg in our streets.

 

[flyman]

Oman didn't exist at that time bye

Oman existed even before Islamic times. The chinese historians and others where only referring to the Isaaq regions as Berbera. That's why we have the name and somalia dosen't. Also Zeila wasn't even known as Berbera. Zeila was known as Zeila... So it wasn't the whole region that was Known as Berbera just Isaaq regions and we are changing the name back to that.

http://www.somalilandsun.net/2017/01/04/renaming-somaliland/

 

[flyman]

This failed country is like Dubai for your people, you walked on feet to beg in our streets.

darood were habashi slaves that were expelled from Yemen by Yemenis and Persians. That's why there is Jabartis in eritrea that are the same as darood.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Somalialnd is not a part of somalia if you want to be somali then go to somalia

Stop this qabilism sxb we need to be united.