Ethiopian politics

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funny thing is somalis should work and find allies to work in our favour the idea thier all different assholes is ridiculous and its one that kept somalia in the dark while our enemies used all potential allies against us

Yep, gotta play the divide and conquer game they have played against us the last 30 years.

So far they and Kenya have been divided, with Kenya now siding with Egypt on Nile Dam issue:lolbron:
 

madaxweyne

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Yep, gotta play the divide and conquer game they have played against us the last 30 years.
the cushtiic alliance with oromos and afars against the tplf habeshas is the way to go we can help oromos maintain power with them aiding us and also help fight of kenya where we support thier ethnostate project in oromo inhabited territories of kenya and ethiopia and they do the same for us in those countries as well
 
Yep, gotta play the divide and conquer game they have played against us the last 30 years.

So far they and Kenya have been divided, with Kenya now siding with Egypt on Nile Dam issue:lolbron:
When Ethiopia falls into a civil war, Somali Galbeed must be ready to wage a war of independence and secede immediately
 
Yep, gotta play the divide and conquer game they have played against us the last 30 years.

So far they and Kenya have been divided, with Kenya now siding with Egypt on Nile Dam issue:lolbron:
US supports Egypt on the Nile.which means US is not.happy with Chineese hegemony in Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa at large.
Africom cannot lose Ethiopia at any cost especially will not allow Abye forfeit Ethiopia to China.Most likely Abye will be humbled like Salva Kiir.of South Sudan.
Kiir forfeited South Sudan to China and got a proper lesson.
 

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Realistically. Galbeed somalis are the weakest region and least armed as far as i know. They have been neutered and i doubt if civil war breaks out the somali government or even silly clans will put aside their differences to somehow aid them. That's provided our country makes progress militarily by the time ethiopia explodes.

I don't support violence nor do i really want instability for the horn, but since ethiopia refuses to respect the article 39 vote and keeps regions together by force i wish them luck.
 

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the cushtiic alliance with oromos and afars against the tplf habeshas is the way to go we can help oromos maintain power with them aiding us and also help fight of kenya where we support thier ethnostate project in oromo inhabited territories of kenya and ethiopia and they do the same for us in those countries as well
There is no real alliance with those maniacs but the ONLF is making ties with Jawar and his party to ensure good budget increases and favorable census counts in case he is elected.

There is no one you can properly “ally” with because most of these parties don’t really want to secede anymore they have more or less become crabs in a bucket.

Realistically. Galbeed somalis are the weakest region and least armed as far as i know. They have been neutered and i doubt if civil war breaks out the somali government or even silly clans will put aside their differences to somehow aid them. That's provided our country makes progress militarily by the time ethiopia explodes.

I don't support violence nor do i really want instability for the horn, but since ethiopia refuses to respect the article 39 vote and keeps regions together by force i wish them luck.
Liyu police can field 40-50k soldiers and they are going to get a budget increase no matter which Oromo comes into power. Oromos are also far more divisive the christian v. muslim hatred is prevalent but out of our sight.

our other neighbor Canfar are incredibly weak and not worth going over. The big factor is state resources and who gets what shares of it.
 
Abiy Ahmed is the face the Tigray used to appease the Oromos, the TPLF and Amhara still dominate the country.

Ethiopia is a balloon about to burst, and as the Oromo continues to grow in significance, the weaker the foundations that hold Ethiopia together will become.
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Clearly you are clueless about the current Ethiopian politics. No single Ethiopian believes TPLF is using Abiy Ahmed, not even TPLF :ftw9nwa: If you think so then you are out of your mind and are absolutely not in sync with the current Ethiopian politics. Abiy has removed all top TPLF generals and security officials and now controls all the intelligence, security and military apparatus fully. Why does he need TPLF? It is insane to think TPLF uses Abiy. Abiy even kicked TPLF out of the leading EPRDF coalition and created a new party with all former EPRDF members except TPLF. He has jailed many TPLF officials and generals, removed all TPLF ministers from their post. Currently there not one single TPLF minister in the federal government. TPLF currently has zero say in the federal government. You need to sync with the reality.
Abiy is not about the domination of one ethnic group though. He is ethiopianists through and through. He seems to despise tribalism. He is not working for one ethnic group but for his own legacy. He has a big vision for Ethiopia and he wants to be remembered as one of the major leaders/kings of Ethiopia. He ain't your usual tuulo boy :ftw9nwa: Because of this, he has a wide and very diverse support base from all ethnic groups including among tigreans.
 
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the cushtiic alliance with oromos and afars against the tplf habeshas is the way to go we can help oromos maintain power with them aiding us and also help fight of kenya where we support thier ethnostate project in oromo inhabited territories of kenya and ethiopia and they do the same for us in those countries as well
What aiding? The only beef between Ethiopia and Somalia is Somali State. No oromo is ganna support the independence of Somali state a large region with resources and a small population that’s divided on qabil lines.

The only help ethiopia has given Farmajo is the xasuuq of reer KGS. From the baydabo massacre to planes being shot of the sky in bardale. Farmajo is out of the chair there is nothing coming from Ethiopia and no power they even have or interest to hold him on the chair. Sharaftada ilasho kkkkk
 

madaxweyne

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There is no real alliance with those maniacs but the ONLF is making ties with Jawar and his party to ensure good budget increases and favorable census counts in case he is elected.

There is no one you can properly “ally” with because most of these parties don’t really want to secede anymore they have more or less become crabs in a bucket.


Liyu police can field 40-50k soldiers and they are going to get a budget increase no matter which Oromo comes into power. Oromos are also far more divisive the christian v. muslim hatred is prevalent but out of our sight.

our other neighbor Canfar are incredibly weak and not worth going over. The big factor is state resources and who gets what shares of it.
its been great ever since the cushitic alliance between cagjar and abiy tplf was ousted iley was jailed and galbeed has been very peacefull for my folks and we just got a new hospital were looking for new renovations and a possible road to dhegaxbhur is in the making sahib i dont know if you havent realised but making allies against enemies aka tplf and habeshas is a good thing for us and its been a blessing
 

madaxweyne

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What aiding? The only beef between Ethiopia and Somalia is Somali State. No oromo is ganna support the independence of Somali state a large region with resources and a small population that’s divided on qabil lines.

The only help ethiopia has given Farmajo is the xasuuq of reer KGS. From the baydabo massacre to planes being shot of the sky in bardale. Farmajo is out of the chair there is nothing coming from Ethiopia and no power they even have or interest to hold him on the chair. Sharaftada ilasho kkkkk
why you mentioning somalia this alliance has been good for dds no more tplf tigray habeshas no more iley and no more melez zenawi and a very peaceful somali region all because of the current cushitic alliance we have with oromos sidamas and afars against tplf
 
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There is a strong possibility of a transitional government ousting Abiy from power if he refuses to hold elections before September. Opposition leaders such as Jawar and Lidetu Ayalew have already stated that his mandate ends then and he will not be considered PM after September.
 

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its been great ever since the cushitic alliance between cagjar and abiy tplf was ousted iley was jailed and galbeed has been very peacefull for my folks and we just got a new hospital were looking for new renovations and a possible road to dhegaxbhur is in the making sahib i dont know if you havent realised but making allies against enemies aka tplf and habeshas is a good thing for us and its been a blessing
Firstly Cagjar is horrible for the region you only like him because your Isaaq :bell:

Secondly the guy is anti-secessionist which I thought was the aim here :ayaanswag:he is also said to be anti-federalist and promotes an Amhara like central Ethiopia.

Thirdly you might want to know that TPLF was also an “ally” at one point these people will never be close to you because one thing differentiates us they are Ethiopians we are not an Oromo is closer to an Amhara but you cant understand that because “Cushitism”.
 

madaxweyne

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Firstly Cagjar is horrible for the region you only like him because your Isaaq :bell:

Secondly the guy is anti-secessionist which I thought was the aim here :ayaanswag:he is also said to be anti-federalist and promotes an Amhara like central Ethiopia.

Thirdly you might want to know that TPLF was also an “ally” at one point these people will never be close to you because one thing differentiates us they are Ethiopians we are not an Oromo is closer to an Amhara but you cant understand that because “Cushitism”.
am talking in comparison regardless of issues cagjar is like an angel compared to abdi iley and whats wrong with the alliance with Oromos even if its becouse of (shared language ie Cushitic) we both endured oppression from ethio and Kenya because of them we got rid of tplf and zenawi who waged war and persecuted somalis even using a puppet iley to mass murder Somalis we are much better of now more than before mostly because of that alliance

yes cagjar is anti secessionist I wouldn't blame him due to current situations hes just playing it smart Somalia doesn't want to allow it either as well due to its own problems with that im pretty sure he isn't anti-federalist laakin
 

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am talking in comparison regardless of issues cagjar is like an angel compared to abdi iley and whats wrong with the alliance with oromos becouse of them we got rid of tplf and zenawi who waged war and persecuted somalis even using a puppet iley to mass murder somalis we are much better of now more than before mostly because of that alliance

yes cagjar is anti secessionist I wouldn't blame him due to current situations hes just playing it smart Somalia doesn't want to allow it either as well due to its own problems with that im pretty sure he isn't anti-federalist laakin
Regardless Cagjar is on his way out so I couldn’t care less apparently they are trying to replace him with someone else and force his resignation since he is unable to gain a support base. Comparing him to Iley won’t make me happy ONLF is back and the Maadey Mullah is the head
 

madaxweyne

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Regardless Cagjar is on his way out so I couldn’t care less apparently they are trying to replace him with someone else and force his resignation since he is unable to gain a support base. Comparing him to Iley won’t make me happy ONLF is back and the Maadey Mullah is the head
i support onlf don't get me wrong they have my vote and it seems that they're more likely to win now since they teamed up with remaining Somali parties to get the rest of the vote and its pretty much a done deal now

either way cagjar was never voted in he just came as a temporary replacement for iley and fixed the destruction he and tplf has caused which i hands down supported
 
There is a strong possibility of a transitional government ousting Abiy from power if he refuses to hold elections before September. Opposition leaders such as Jawar and Lidetu Ayalew have already stated that his mandate ends then and he will not be considered PM after September.

That is BS. Abiy always insisted in holding elections this year and the election board set a date. So everything was ready then came the coronavirus epidemic. The election board then said it can't do all the preparation job, training hundreds of thousands of election helpers etc. and the political parties now can't hold rallies and meetings due to coronavirus. How can you have election in this context?

Both Jawar and Lidetu and also all opposition parties agree that postponing the election is the right decision. The only beef they have is that they want a transitional government composed of all over 100 opposition parties after the term of the current government ends in September. (Ethiopian new year). But PM Abiy and I think majority of Ethiopians including many opposition parties rightfully reject the idea of a transitional government composed of over 100 parties. That would be a chaotic mess and is a high national security risk which no responsible government will allow to happen. Lidetu has zero constituency anyways since majority of Amharas are behind PM Abiy. Ledut's party is struggling to gather 10k signatures to register for the upcoming election. Jawar can't mobilze the people as he did against the hated TPLF.

Currently I see no other power ousting PM Abiy Ahmed. The majority of ordinary Ethiopians I think support his position too. They don't want all the incompetent and good for nothing opposition to be in the government and create chaos and risk the country's national security. Even if Abiy has to use force, believe me he will use it to preserve a stable government.
 
Clearly you are clueless about the current Ethiopian politics. No single Ethiopian believes TPLF is using Abiy Ahmed, not even TPLF :ftw9nwa: If you think so then you are out of your mind and are absolutely not in sync with the current Ethiopian politics. Abiy has removed all top TPLF generals and security officials and now controls all the intelligence, security and military apparatus fully. Why does he need TPLF? It is insane to think TPLF uses Abiy. Abiy even kicked TPLF out of the leading EPRDF coalition and created a new party with all former EPRDF members except TPLF. He has jailed many TPLF officials and generals, removed all TPLF ministers from their post. Currently there not one single TPLF minister in the federal government. TPLF currently has zero say in the federal government. You need to sync with the reality.
Abiy is not about the domination of one ethnic group though. He is ethiopianists through and through. He seems to despise tribalism. He is not working for one ethnic group but for his own legacy. He has a big vision for Ethiopia and he wants to be remembered as one of the major leaders/kings of Ethiopia. He ain't your usual tuulo boy :ftw9nwa: Because of this, he has a wide and very diverse support base from all ethnic groups including among tigreans.
Could you explain Abiy’s medemer philosophy? What is it about?
 
Could you explain Abiy’s medemer philosophy? What is it about?

This is only my personal view. I think Medemer (Amharic word for adding also used in maths) has two core values. The first has the idea of “the whole is greater than the sum of its parts” i.e. you get more results in working together and cooperating that you will never achieve doing individually/separately. It is like if two entities cooperate and work together they could get a result that is way more than if you only add the results of things they accomplish individually. Working and cooperating together creates huge opportunities and synergy that is way more than individual accomplishments. So in medemer philosophy 1+1=2 when it is done individually but if two entities cooperate and create a synergy 1+1 could result in 3 or 4 or 5 even 100. Cooperation opens up new unseen opportunities and synergy that can result in much more than the sum of individual achievements.
The second core value of medemer is that we (Ethiopians but can also apply to many Africans) have tried many imported western philosophies like communism that are foreign to our society and that have failed miserably. So medemer suggests to come up with our own indigenous solutions to our home grown problems and even if we have to use imported western solutions we must customize and modify it to fit to our local needs. It is a philosophy of us becoming creative in finding solutions to our own problems instead of importing every western philosophy and try to apply it on our society.

Here is a book review by Ethiopian professor Al Mariam (Ph.D.) who teaches political science at California State University, San Bernardino.

The Medemer book can also be purchased from Amazon (I only found the Amharic and Afaan Oromo versions though. But I know for sure the book was translated to both English and Afaan Oromo).

Btw, PM Abiy said in interview that he earned way more money from his book than what he got from the nobel prize. Already over a million copies were sold.
 
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