Federalism was Created by the Previous Ethiopian Gov to Devide Somalia.

[Automaton]

https://www.thesstar.com/thats-a-by...system-died-with-tigrayan-rule-in-ethiopia-2/

MOGADISHU – In 1998, as part of its constant push to sabotage Somalia’s unity, the Ethiopian government led by the Tigrayan ethnic minority put forward a proposal — it called “building blocks” — to an East African regional bloc, IGAD, to divvy up Somalia into six clan-based regional administrations.

Divided Somalia cannot rise because they are busy fighting among themselves, like the wars between the federal states.

That history is always being purposefully omitted when discussing the Somali federal system that trapped the nation in a vicious circle that only serves the interests of esurient politicians. The UN and the EU — the peddlers and financiers of the system — have dissembled federalism’s debilitating consequences in the country, such as the unremitting wrangling between the central government and regional administrations over power and resources that distracted Somalia from taking its rightful place in the world.

Few elite "people" benefit while the rest are blindsided by this fake state/qabil nationalism.

Unwary Somali politicians — not the wider public — uncritically bought the Ethiopian concept of federalism and wrongly thought it’s good for the country. It’s not unexpected. The system offered greedy regional administrators, who have a taste for expensive cars and five-star hotels, the opportunity they always hankered for: To do as they wish. And so they did. They unilaterally struck trade and military deals with foreign countries and entities. Taking advantage of the ambiguity in the provisional constitution, they went further and forged state-to-state ties with foreign countries. They took delight in meeting with Kenyan Presidents, Ethiopian prime ministers and princes from the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, among other foreign dignitaries

Federalism is not meant for a country that has one ethnic group with one religion and one language. Everyone who supports it wants Somalia to stay weak for their own selfish reasons. We support one strong Somalia.

@AarLibaax r@angelplan @Bohol @geeljire madaxweyne @Timo Madow and proud @kickz @nomand

 

[Younes Osman]

I think the states were based on the 4.5 system.

 

[Automaton]

I think the states were based on the 4.5 system.

It was copied from the Ethiopian model and supported by Tigrayan gov. Read the article my secessionist friend.

 

[madaxweyne]

Bro we all know it's an Ethiopian method brought to Somalia by abdullahi yusuf

So what Ethiopia had a civil war and the federal system model helped quite down ethnic conflict and Somalia applied the same method

Nothing wrong with the system in fact it made things a lot better if we didn't have it we could have been a lot worse of

 

[repo]

The arguments against federalism are getting weaker by the day and saying Ethiopia created it is desperate and false. That site may have copied the layout of NYT but not its credibility.

 

[Veteran]

I absolutely agree, we need centralism.

Divide and Conquer.

 

[Younes Osman]

I just can picture an elderly Somali dude con man somaliweyne advocate saying " Ethiopia waa cadowga somaliyeed " lol Like its 1977.
im like "War odaygu seexo "

 

[AarLibaax]

https://www.thesstar.com/thats-a-by...system-died-with-tigrayan-rule-in-ethiopia-2/



Divided Somalia cannot rise because they are busy fighting among themselves, like the wars between the federal states.



Few elite "people" benefit while the rest are blindsided by this fake state/qabil nationalism.




Federalism is not meant for a country that has one ethnic group with one religion and one language. Everyone who supports it wants Somalia to stay weak for their own selfish reasons. We support one strong Somalia.

@AarLibaax r@angelplan @Bohol @geeljire madaxweyne @Timo Madow and proud @kickz @nomand

Whatever plans our enemies have set for us WE overcome it.

The ethnic Federalism imposed on Ethiopia through TPLF, was simply copied and pasted and imported to our country.

We are more educated on Federal systems now than 20 years ago and at some point we will slice it and dice it to suit our country

 

[Awdalia Rising]

Ethiopia sure did create it and it used its favorite lackey Abdullahi Yusuf to implement it. Before Failmaajo AY was the biggest Ethiopian puppet we ever saw but now Failmaajo is trying to take that crown

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Nonsense.

It was the D&M who initially brought the idea of federalism to Somalia to preserve themselves.

Also, historically, Somalis were divided into different fiefdoms/kingdoms/sultanates and so forth.

The concept of a Centralised Somalia is what is truly alien.

 

[nomand]

federalism is good but not the way Dani wants, i support federalism where the SNA controls the borders and the only army being the SNA.

Federalism will be implemented the way President farmaajo explained here

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@nomand

Nobody will accept a HAG army in their federal states, this is neo-USC tactics ushered in by their helper, Farmaajo.

The plan was for the SNA to represent each federal state, this hasn't happened.

You can welcome the so-called "SNA" into your own regions.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

>ethiopia created federalism to devide somalis
>the most hardline centralist president is backed by ethiopia
N&Nbots really are something.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

 

[Ayubi]

Somalis are a tribal people so we need a system to accommodate the society which is federalism. Federalism allows others to secure and develop their lands without any interference from others or being tied to one city Muqdisho. The government in xamar is a failure that neglects it's people's basic needs so we simply told them to f*ck off and develop our lands on our own.

 

[madaxweyne]

>ethiopia created federalism to devide somalis
>the most hardline centralist president is backed by ethiopia
N&Nbots really are something.

>Ethiopian backed president created federalism
>Ethiopian backed president wants to get rid of federalism

qaran dumis and pim bots lack logic wallahi

 

[Ayubi]

>Ethiopian backed president created federalism
>Ethiopian backed president wants to get rid of federalism

qaran dumis and pim bots lack logic wallahi

Ethiopia never created federalism though, It was the Rahanweyn tribe who first introduced it to Somalia

 

[Automaton]

Bro we all know it's an Ethiopian method brought to Somalia by abdullahi yusuf

So what Ethiopia had a civil war and the federal system model helped quite down ethnic conflict and Somalia applied the same method

Nothing wrong with the system in fact it made things a lot better if we didn't have it we could have been a lot worse of

You don't think that this federal system undermines national unity and could potentially lead to secession? You see how Puntland and Madoobe supporters are invoking the S word.

The arguments against federalism are getting weaker by the day and saying Ethiopia created it is desperate and false. That site may have copied the layout of NYT but not its credibility.

Attacking this publication doesn't invalidate its sound argument.

Nonsense.

It was the D&M who initially brought the idea of federalism to Somalia to preserve themselves.

Also, historically, Somalis were divided into different fiefdoms/kingdoms/sultanates and so forth.

The concept of a Centralised Somalia is what is truly alien.

The good old "we were divided into separate sultanates". So what? Literally, every nation, at some point, consisted of small insignificant sultanates before unifying and becoming a strong nation. It's called growth.

federalism is good but not the way Dani wants, i support federalism where the SNA controls the borders and the only army being the SNA.

Federalism will be implemented the way President farmaajo explained here

Let's not lie to ourselves because this type of federalism will never be accepted by some of the federal states. They behave like independent countries with their own army and foreign policy.

Somalis are a tribal people so we need a system to accommodate the society which is federalism. Federalism allows others to secure and develop their lands without any interference from others or being tied to one city Muqdisho. The government in xamar is a failure that neglects it's people's basic needs so we simply told them to f*ck off and develop our lands on our own.

You can still develop you own region and grow the local economy without this ineffective system of federalism.

 

[Automaton]

Whatever plans our enemies have set for us WE overcome it.

The ethnic Federalism imposed on Ethiopia through TPLF, was simply copied and pasted and imported to our country.

We are more educated on Federal systems now than 20 years ago and at some point we will slice it and dice it to suit our country

You're a true patriot sir!

 

[Automaton]

Federalism was created by the former TPLF gov of Ethiopia to weaken us. Rahanwien are very patriotic people and pro central gov.