Federation of the Red Sea?!

Should we have done it?!

  • Yes, we would be a superpower

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • No, too much conflict

    Votes: 12 57.1%

  • Total voters
    21

Erythrean

🇺🇸 PROUD MURICAN!!! Hamitic Horner Race
In march 1977 3 months before the Ogaden war commenced, Fidel castro invited Siad barre, Mengistu, and Rubai Ali (Presedent of south yemen) to Aden.
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Barre and Castro
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Castro and Mengistu

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Rubai and Castro

They all convened in Aden, Mengistu arriving latest. Castro was the first to speak and he plainly said that it'd be foolish for Communist/Socialists states in the same region to be fighting. He demanded that they each stop the propaganda against each other and to stop supporting each other's rebels. Calling for a federation between the three states. Castro also proposed that a joint communist state in the region could easily coerce the french territory of Djibouti to join the federation the moment it became independent. He called it a "Pax Sovietica", a soviet peace in the horn; bringing about it's golden age.

Supreme revolutionary council (Kacaan)

Provisional Military Administrative Council (Th Derg
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Supreme People's Council (South Yemen)

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in the 1970s Fidel Castro also proposed a communist federation of Ethiopia, Somalia, and South Yemen. The proposed union would have a total GDP of $212 billion and sit along one of the world’s most important maritime trade routes.
Mengistu had previously agreed to the federation and said it was a good idea, but changed his mind after the meeting in Aden. Siad Barre also agreed to the Federation, but with one condition. That the Somali regions of Somalia, the Ogaden and Djibouti become one joint state of the federation with the arabs and Ethiopians.

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The Yemeni President was also keen on listening to the proposals and wasn't opposing it. The meeting was sabotaged by the right hand man of Rubia Ali, abdul fattah ismail who was the leader of the legislative party in Yemen. He jumped in and accused Siad barre of stealing Ethiopian land, the Yemeni president shut him up, but it was already too late. The meeting was chaotic after that. They all agreed to convene again tomorrow for a second day meeting, but literally no one but the Yemenis and Somalis showed up, Mengistu left at night and didn't tell anyone, then Castro left that morning. So Siad Barre and the Somali delegation left that after noon. All parties deciding to go to war.

I myself wouldn't have opposed the Federation as long the Somali regions were joined and made up one state as proposed.
It would've been interesting to see.
The total armed forces if the Rebels all gave up and joined forces with Ethiopia, Somalia, and South Yemen back then would've been around 600,000 active personal, which today would bee around 1,500,000 active personal. An estimated GDP of 212 million by the end of the 1900s. Combine that with utter total domination of the red sea and all it's ports, would've been one hell of a super power to reckoned with.
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Here's an Article written in the washington post in 1977 talking about this proposed federation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...871-b0e9-7b53588dca72/?utm_term=.a6656412ae4e
 
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In march 1977 3 months before the Ogaden war commenced, Fidel castro invited Siad barre, Mengistu, and Rubai Ali (Presedent of south yemen) to Aden.
Siyaad%2Biyo%2BCastro.jpg


Barre and Castro
6.jpg

Castro and Mengistu

CHM3ukAXIAA67Q-.jpg

Rubai and Castro

They all convened in Aden, Mengistu arriving latest. Castro was the first to speak and he plainly said that it'd be foolish for Communist/Socialists states in the same region to be fighting. He demanded that they each stop the propaganda against each other and to stop supporting each other's rebels. Calling for a federation between the three states. Castro also proposed that a joint communist state in the region could easily coerce the french territory of Djibouti to join the federation the moment it became independent. He called it a "Pax Sovietica", a soviet peace in the horn; bringing about it's golden age.

Supreme revolutionary council (Kacaan)

Provisional Military Administrative Council (Th Derg
)

Supreme People's Council (South Yemen)

Screen Shot 2018-05-13 at 9.19.36 PM.png


Mengistu had previously agreed to the federation and said it was a good idea, but changed his mind after the meeting in Aden. Siad Barre also agreed to the Federation, but with one condition. That the Somali regions of Somalia, the Ogaden and Djibouti become one joint state of the federation with the arabs and Ethiopians.

Screen Shot 2018-05-13 at 8.03.27 PM.png


The Yemeni President was also keen on listening to the proposals and wasn't opposing it. The meeting was sabotaged by the right hand man of Rubia Ali, abdul fattah ismail who was the leader of the legislative party in Yemen. He jumped in and accused Siad barre of stealing Ethiopian land, the Yemeni president shut him up, but it was already too late. The meeting was chaotic after that. They all agreed to convene again tomorrow for a second day meeting, but literally no one but the Yemenis and Somalis showed up, Mengistu left at night and didn't tell anyone, then Castro left that morning. So Siad Barre and the Somali delegation left that after noon. All parties deciding to go to war.

I myself wouldn't have opposed the Federation as long the Somali regions were joined and made up one state as proposed.
It would've been interesting to see.
The total armed forces if the Rebels all gave up and joined forces with Ethiopia, Somalia, and South Yemen back then would've been around 600,000 active personal, which today would bee around 1,500,000 active personal. Combine that with utter total domination of the red sea and all it's ports, would've been one hell of a super power to reckoned with.
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Here's an Article written in the washington post in 1977 talking about this proposed federation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...871-b0e9-7b53588dca72/?utm_term=.a6656412ae4e

That’s why I never understood Somali love for Yemeni’s.

South Yemen sided with Ethiopia.
Inshallah Socotra can be annexed from them, they’re not good neighbors.
 

Qeelbax

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abdul fattah ismail who was the leader of the legislative party in Yemen. He jumped in and accused Siad barre of stealing Ethiopian land, the Yemeni president shut him up, but it was already too late.
who asked you dumb ass midget ass Yemeni ass b!tch. All they good at is being Ethiopias slaves.
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We have people wanting to balkanize and here you are with a whole new federation :childplease:
Somalis are stupid. If clans want to balkanize what makes anyone think that subclans won't try the same shit? Then subclans of the subclans. Niggas really want the world map to represent them like this


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Qeelbax

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Oh and OP should off himself for trying to link us up with these midgets. What am I getting in between a slave and a slave master?
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Qeelbax

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Somalis are stupid. If clans want to balkanize what makes anyone think that subclans won't try the same shit? Then subclans of the subclans. Niggas really want the world map to represent them like this


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Somalia would be like PNG. Papua New Guinea has 1000 ethnic groups
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Aurelian

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Was it intentional that Fattah spoke that way or he was genuine.? Anyway I could handled it way better than turning the meeting into a chaos.

But if the propsal that somalia had was done, we could make federation with them then left with Somaligalbeed with us.
 
Somalia should destroy clan borders and adopt 1M1V, natural resources should be collected from all states then should be divided between all the federal states with each district capital getting the same income.
 

Erythrean

🇺🇸 PROUD MURICAN!!! Hamitic Horner Race
Was it intentional that Fattah spoke that way or he was genuine.? Anyway I could handled it way better than turning the meeting into a chaos.

But if the propsal that somalia had was done, we could make federation with them then left with Somaligalbeed with us.
That’s what I was thinking. Either that or take political sovereignty.
 

Erythrean

🇺🇸 PROUD MURICAN!!! Hamitic Horner Race
What makes you think Yemenis, Ethiopians, and Somalis could make a superpower? At most we'd be like Kenya, but even that's a 0.000000001% chance. It would be the same shit we have now + a slave trade.
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If we didn’t have so much hatred towards each other (although the hate is justified) we would be a superpower.
 

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