Felt embarrassed to be Somali today...

[Sooriyocano]

Basically am an Accountant currently working for a relatively large petroleum company in Dar Es Salaam. I do mobile audits once in a while where me and a colleague visit retail stations and transport sites to do surprise audit and stuff. It's really fun and I enjoy the long drives. Also Kenyan Somali but most Africans see all Somalis as being Somali nationals no matter where you come. I take no offence to it.

Anyways we got to discussing country sizes and their populations and we saw Tanzania had a population of 57.3 million with a land mass of around 945,000km2 ,Kenya 58Million with around 580,000km2 in land then he asks me what's the population of Somalia and i tell him it's around 14 million by Google Estimates so he expects it to be a very small country and he's utterly shocked when I inform him Somalia is larger than Kenya with 637,000km2 and has the largest coastline in Africa. The guy couldn't fathom how such a huge country with such a little population could face the same problems for over 3 decades.

My opinion I feel Somalia has a weak leadership structure that allows the most retarded inbreds positions of power and control while the most educated and sharp people are forced to obey the status quo. Hence the same top families that continuously intermarry further dumbing down an already dumb offspring will have power rotate amongst them. This whole "Islaan" "Suldan" system is bullshit.

Anyways any other spotters in Dar Es Salam?

 

[CaliTedesse]

Wow my dream is to build a resort on the coast of Tanzania. Yes Somalis are utter shameful.

 

[Sooriyocano]

Wow my dream is to build a resort on the coast of Tanzania. Yes Somalis are utter shameful.

Karibu saxib. 1 thing i like about Somalis ,we truly nomads and present everywhere.

 

[Crow]

I don't see the connection between population size and failed statenimo. Our brothers and sisters in Libya and Syria have similarly small populations (~10 million) and are also qasaros. Meanwhile, in Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq, you see the exact same story but with populations of ~30 million.

 

[shum33]

Which oil company HAS or the leelkase oil petro something?

population has nothing to do with success,most countries with high gdp have lesser population like norway,oman e.t.c and in africa namibia

 

[land owner]

Somalia need to get its shit together ASAP structure and stability can’t be that difficult to have

 

[Sooriyocano]

I don't see the connection between population size and failed statenimo. Our brothers and sisters in Libya and Syria have similarly small populations (~10 million) and are also qasaros. Meanwhile, in Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq, you see the exact same story but with populations of ~30 million.

It just shows we engaged in a very dumb conflict for a very long time. Somalia has more than enough resources for it's citizenry. The problem is huger than the saqajan wahabis, Am sure if all Somali states + FGS came together wahabis will be buried in literally 2 weeks . They're a very small group in scale to the many armed state armies and the national army that has been professionalism. I truly believe if all armed units decided to fight the wahibis in a unitary wave, wax eyihin majirto wallahi . Their existence will cease in 2 weeks but all states are busy engaging in border conflict in a deserted land no one really wants to inhabit.it has to do with Somalis generally sticking to poor systems of leadership and aggressively fighting a change in structure.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Basically am an Accountant currently working for a relatively large petroleum company in Dar Es Salaam. I do mobile audits once in a while where me and a colleague visit retail stations and transport sites to do surprise audit and stuff. It's really fun and I enjoy the long drives. Also Kenyan Somali but most Africans see all Somalis as being Somali nationals no matter where you come. I take no offence to it.

Anyways we got to discussing country sizes and their populations and we saw Tanzania had a population of 57.3 million with a land mass of around 945,000km2 ,Kenya 58Million with around 580,000km2 in land then he asks me what's the population of Somalia and i tell him it's around 14 million by Google Estimates so he expects it to be a very small country and he's utterly shocked when I inform him Somalia is larger than Kenya with 637,000km2 and has the largest coastline in Africa. The guy couldn't fathom how such a huge country with such a little population could face the same problems for over 3 decades.

My opinion I feel Somalia has a weak leadership structure that allows the most retarded inbreds positions of power and control while the most educated and sharp people are forced to obey the status quo. Hence the same top families that continuously intermarry further dumbing down an already dumb offspring will have power rotate amongst them. This whole "Islaan" "Suldan" system is bullshit.

Anyways any other spotters in Dar Es Salam?

Uko wapi Dar es salaam?

 

[Sooriyocano]

Somalia need to get its shit together ASAP structure and stability can’t be that difficult to have

Bruh there's literally 120 tribes in Tanzania speaking 120 languages with multiple religions and it's the most peaceful country in Africa MashaAllah then there's Somalia with the 1 tribe+ 1 language + 1 religion utopia

 

[Sooriyocano]

Uko wapi Dar es salaam?

Kwa sasa niko Sokota brother

 

[land owner]

Bruh there's literally 120 tribes in Tanzania speaking 120 languages with multiple religions and it's the most peaceful country in Africa MashaAllah then there's Somalia with the 1 tribe+ 1 language + 1 religion utopia

 

[land owner]

Kwa sasa niko Sokota brother

Mimi nilizaliwa huko. Daresalaam

Hakuna hibongo wakanda

 

[FBIsomalia]

Now what this tread has any connection the politics. It should be go to the general.

 

[Sooriyocano]

Which oil company HAS or the leelkase oil petro something?

population has nothing to do with success,most countries with high gdp have lesser population like norway,oman e.t.c and in africa namibia

Exactly Somalia with it's small population and abundant resources should be similar to such successful countries . Somalis have enough farm land, livestock, strategic location, huge fisheries potential,oil reserves etc you name it .blessed country but has what seems like a cursed population

 

[shum33]

Exactly Somalia with it's small population and abundant resources should be similar to such successful countries . Somalis have enough farm land, livestock, strategic location, huge fisheries potential,oil reserves etc you name it .blessed country but has what seems like a cursed population

Unajua kiswahili?unafanya kazi kwa yasin hersi lughadere au?

 

[TheSayid]

did you mention how large parts of somalia is deserts

 

[Macalin M]

What language is this. I tried reading it out loud and my brother thought I was casting a spell

 

[Sooriyocano]

Unajua kiswahili?unafanya kazi kwa yasin hersi lughadere au?

Mashqulka iskadaf warya

 

[shum33]

Mashqulka iskadaf warya

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Sooriyocano I can see from your post you are really seeking 'knowledge' it's the only way to win or remain in stalemate of ii jiid an ku jiide like Somalis have for 30 years and like Tekniko who isn't innovative is repeating the same shit showing us his real b22n by nature and not leadership material.

You are right we have a fundamental problem in our 'culture' and I say this because it's not only in the government where fail. We fail to create even community centers for our diaspora that are functioning like other immigrant groups, we fail to even have united mosques like other muslim nations do, we always 'scattered' among other nations and people and end up counted as 'refugee' or 'stranger' just look at Somalis carefully, mar walbo waxay ku dhex jiran wadan kale, masajid kale, community kale, umadani dhib wayn ayaa ka haysto dhinaca arimaha mamulka for anything. They excel well in trade and that's why I don't need to focus on their strength. They have some good principles also, they do help themselves out in diaspora, their very caring and share with Somalis who are new in a town and so forth. Way iska naxan, lakin dhinaca mamulka, haba uu sheegin. Somalis cannot create an administration for anything be it govt, ngo, committees like sporting or isimo, wallahi uu firso, meel kasto mamul ama 'hukun' jira, that's it their 'weakness' is exposed to the world and our enemy now knows where to concentrate to 'kill us' off or keep us 'hostage'. Yaa isku keenay waa anaga dee.

Now the reasons can be varied and historical. Some have argued Somalis never left the 'clan development' stage and transition to 'kingdom' stage and create fuedal society like 'peasants and land lords'. This sort of society is easy to transition to 'democracy' the peasants are 'one group such as workers or labour' and land lords are one group 'businesses or wealthy class'. The europeans transitioned well going from 'tribal beginnings' in the dark age to establishing 'kingdoms' for centuries and finally a 'democracy' you can clearly see the cultural development happening and the system being implemented 'updating itself' to complement the society to progress and develop.

Some argue like @General Asad @PuntiteQueen that not all Somalis are of 'equal' development historically and they present data from historical sources such as images, european/arab accounts, local sources, even artifacts such as ancient sites of their sultanates. They argue MJ/WARSAN, transitioned successfully from clan based type of society into establishing kingdoms and were on their way to nation state development untill being grouped in with the 'human zoo of the northern population' and yes they provide images and historical sources for this or the 'colony' run south(like omanis, italians, and now amisom and xalane). There is some strong correlation here, they are demonstrating the historical account is complimenting the 'evidence' we see in those regions. For example Italy ruled the south, now Xalane and UN does with AMISOM.

They argue local accounts say HG waa 'cawaan with no sultanates' and when u examine galmudug today you see very clearly they have no government meaning historical sources are correct as it's verified with info on the ground.

I am of the second philosophy, I don't think Somalis develop equally the same or had the same story due to differing locations and environments and due to our clan system, the possibility we create a nation state from that cultural context is impossible, it's like arguing dark age european tribe could go from clan based societies into fully fledged democracies without a 'transition' as a kingdom or sultanates. @PhySom IS SAFE here, anigu axsan uma samaynayo ninkani lakin he transitioned like MJ did into Sultanate, while no other clan did in Somalia and even if they did, their was no active kingdom in the south or north at the time of Somali founding. There is no point talking about ADAL OR AJUURAN when that kingdom was destroyed and not active any more. Marehan was also clearly b22n lifestyle.

@Teeri-Alpha Acts like he can hang with habar majerten but I am very doubtful because no Somali local sources refer to Ogaden as a Sultanate nor foreign. Plus his own Sayid clearly said 'majerten waa dawlad' meaning there was no 'dawlad' anywhere else in Somalia or the 'Sayid' would've mentioned it. So we have local confirmation from Somali gabays, foreign sources, and historical artifacts for Majertenia sultanates and that we did indeed reach the stage of development of the 'old world' but due to being thrown into a nation with Hawiye and Isaaq,we have been brought down to their level of not having an active sultanate or government. There was no Hawiye Government or Isaaq government in history. Isaaq was being paraded in human zoo for god sakes or exported as mercenaries to die for his queen meaning his kingdom was england lol.