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Yes 30% in Algeria if I remember correctly but paternal haplogroups aren't really meaningfull you can for example be genetically fully italian but still with an arab haplogroup so we should focus more on autosomal results
Many real Arab descendants in Morocco. Get that xaar out of my face I will go by what Moroccans identify with in front of my nose. Not some Amazigh Nationalism created by French dweebs.
 
Many real Arab descendants in Morocco. Get that xaar out of my face I will go by what Moroccans identify with in front of my nose. Not some Amazigh Nationalism created by French dweebs.
Amazigh nationalism was not created by the French, thats false.

Amazigh Nationalism goes back several thousands of years to Numidian King Massinissa & likely before. He took action & desired to unite Africa(Berber lands).
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Yes 30% in Algeria if I remember correctly but paternal haplogroups aren't really meaningfull you can for example be genetically fully italian but still with an arab haplogroup so we should focus more on autosomal results

Yeah but Arab geneticists I've come across on social media focus predominantly on Haplogroup since Arab identity is patrilineal. I think with Algeria it is safe to say is the most Arab of the Maghreb, due to the large presence of Banu Hilal, it's sup group Ouled Nail.
 

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Many real Arab descendants in Morocco. Get that xaar out of my face I will go by what Moroccans identify with in front of my nose. Not some Amazigh Nationalism created by French dweebs.

Morocco is definitely the least Arab of the Maghreb. It goes like this Algeria > Libya > Tunisia > Morocco.
 

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Morocco is definitely the least Arab of the Maghreb. It goes like this Algeria > Libya > Tunisia > Morocco.
That's nonsense how can you say they are the least Arab. What makes you say that. What do you base that on?
 
Yeah but Arab geneticists I've come across on social media focus predominantly on Haplogroup since Arab identity is patrilineal. I think with Algeria it is safe to say is the most Arab of the Maghreb, due to the large presence of Banu Hilal, it's sup group Ouled Nail.

Yes but like arabs, north africans tend to mix culture with genetics and that's wrong you can't only focus on your paternal haplogroup because this only represents one member of your lineage what about the other thousands ? If you want to know who you are genetically then you have to take everything into account. Also there were more black slaves that were imported in North africa than arabs. Arabs were still a small group that got absorbed by the berber mass that's why today it's impossible to find a maghrebi with more than 40% arab ancestry except in eastern libya
 

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Philip the Arab never espoused nationalism for the Arabs. He was loyal to Rome.

Massinissa was only loyal to his Berber people & estabilshed an independent Berber state.
Then it died and modern Berber nationalism started with the French especially in Nigeria and that waved over to Morocco. Berbers did not even have written language.
 

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Yes but like arabs, north africans tend to mix culture with genetics and that's wrong you can't only focus on your paternal haplogroup because this only represents one member of your lineage what about the other thousands ? If you want to know who you are genetically then you have to take everything into account. Also there were more black slaves that were imported in North africa than arabs. Arabs were still a small group that got absorbed by the berber mass that's why today it's impossible to find a maghrebi with more than 40% arab ancestry except in eastern libya

I see, I'm not too familiar with Libya but I'm aware of the three notable Arab tribes that migrated to the Maghreb and left a mark on the region: Banu Hilal/Sulaym/Maaqil.
 
Do you live in a country with Moroccans? If No ha hadlin sxb. I live in a country with 500k Moroccans and more than half of them claim to be Arab.

Yes because they are arabized. The same way egyptians and levantines think they are arabs. These people are not even aware of their own history and genetics.
 
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