How The Mighty Have Fallen

[DR OSMAN]

@Libaax-Joore

I was just recently informed my grandfather brother who died recently and was our crowned isim, left us a dardaran. He said the land has been polluted with other Somali culture, where are the men of old, when we were a great kingdom, meel kssto aduunka kaga qoran, he said where are you the men that used to buy others(referring to Zanzibaris), he said where is keenadiid who had Yemeni at his feet and among his mercenary. He said those times are gone and he fears we are in the worst point of anytime in our history due to the union with the south.

He said their culture has left a plague on the land as many mjs born or studied there and came back infected. He said the men of old wouldnt recognise these ppl in PL today and are rotting in their graves in misery, he even said our ppl today are so low even they can be bought like U buy a slave in a market. I said to my dad well that's all clans even hawiye and he said kuwas lama tirin jirin. They were always slaves in term of cultural values and all the men can be bought for cheap just like their awooweyaal.

My awoowe had a very deep nugaal accent also like the crowned isim of nugaal islan isse. My dad said anaga ayaa wax ibsan jirnee, manta we are beec like some slave. How the mighty can fall.

 

[DR OSMAN]

When I arrive in PL, my first thing to the leader of the day is we need cultural renewal and disinfect this southern slave mindset from these ppl who were a great kingdom untill they had to merge with these lot.

If only Somalis let us rule indefinitely we could make them all have majerten glory history but they are stubborn and arrogant about their failed ways of their leaders and even awooweyaal. No man can buy me like a slave with corruption siyad was the same. Abdillahi was the same, were are these great men of dignity.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TekNiKo knows old school majerten are like this when they see other clans and thinking koley qof ba ku iibsade, ileen adoonimadu was dhaxal aad lee dihin, bought n sold thru hawala payments like slaves bought in a market and he knows old timer mj like the really old men look at them like this except Siyad n Abdullahi(not bought and not for sale like a slave).

 

[DR OSMAN]

Slavery is simply put a man buying or purchasing another man thru financial means, if you take bribes, corruption or whatever fancy word they wanna call it, your a slave that was bought and your ancestors may have been the same Allahu Alam, which is highly likely since slave is condition of someone mind and genetic mutations passed from father to son.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Libaax-Joore don't worry they try to insult osman Mahmoud as Madows cause we had concubines like Solomon and Mohamed and every arab kingdom did, yet they don't say a word. So what if I have fun with my product lol, their just angry they couldn't be kings

A true slave is nin la ibsado, that's a marker and hawiye men are always bought n sold like livestock by everyone. HSM is in the highest form of slavery being bought by everyone.

 

[TheLand]

@Libaax-Joore don't worry they try to insult osman Mahmoud as Madows cause we had concubines like Solomon and Mohamed and every arab kingdom did, yet they don't say a word. So what if I have fun with my product lol, their just angry they couldn't be kings

A true slave is nin la ibsado, that's a marker and hawiye men are always bought n sold like livestock by everyone. HSM is in the highest form of slavery being bought by everyone.

That’s ridiculous. Osman Mohamoud is among the purest Somalis. Unfortunately there was slavery and the slaves were freed and they took on the qabil of their former masters, that happens. Look at all the AA with white people last names, does that mean they are white? They just took on the names of their slave masters to show ownership and because they didn’t know their own actual African names. Same thing happened here but it’s difficult for people who were unfortunately slaves themselves to understand.

 

[Bari]

That’s ridiculous. Osman Mohamoud is among the purest Somalis. Unfortunately there was slavery and the slaves were freed and they took on the qabil of their former masters, that happens. Look at all the AA with white people last names, does that mean they are white? They just took on the names of their slave masters to show ownership and because they didn’t know their own actual African names. Same thing happened here but it’s difficult for people who were unfortunately slaves themselves to understand.

I havent heard of them taking the names of their masters. For example maanta i know my name to odayga cismaan and all the sons of each name going back 14-15 generations, to claim the name of your slave master would entail you claiming a reer, and the actual nasab people from that reer wouldnt let that shit fly.

 

[DR OSMAN]

That’s ridiculous. Osman Mohamoud is among the purest Somalis. Unfortunately there was slavery and the slaves were freed and they took on the qabil of their former masters, that happens. Look at all the AA with white people last names, does that mean they are white? They just took on the names of their slave masters to show ownership and because they didn’t know their own actual African names. Same thing happened here but it’s difficult for people who were unfortunately slaves themselves to understand.

The merchant class, sultanate class, and general elites would've possibly had sex with them, every arab kingdom and Turks all had harems, I'm sure that was the inspiration to do as other kingdoms do.

As for most Osman Mahmoud who were commoners whether fishermen or nomads, I also think it's highly unlikely bordering impossible.

 

[Bari]

The merchant class, sultanate class, and general elites would've possibly had sex with them, every arab kingdom and Turks all had harems, I'm sure that was the inspiration to do as other kingdoms do.

As for most Osman Mahmoud who were commoners most likely not I agree.

@Libaax-Joore and @DR OSMAN do a deep dive on this topic, which reer of cismaan maxamuud had access to slaves, are there actual known cases of intermarriage between the kings and zazibaris ect.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Libaax-Joore and @DR OSMAN do a deep dive on this topic, which reer of cismaan maxamuud had access to slaves, are there actual known cases of intermarriage between the kings and zazibaris ect.

Not intermarriage they were concubines which Somalis don't understand since they didn't have kingdoms. Concubine isn't married bruv, their bought, I use to buy hookers in the old days for that reason it's a transaction even Saudi royal family do. Sex isn't just about marriage U can buy sex also by the hour or by live ownership in the old days.

You don't think ppl do sex tourism to Asia, their the favoured concubine in today's world standard anyway.

 

[TheLand]

I havent heard of them taking the names of their masters. For example maanta i know my name to odayga cismaan and all the sons of each name going back 14-15 generations, to claim the name of your slave master would entail you claiming a reer, and the actual nasab people from that reer wouldnt let that shit fly.

I’m talking about AA taking their slave masters names

 

[Bari]

Not intermarriage they were concubines which Somalis don't understand since they didn't have kingdoms. Concubine isn't married bruv, their bought, I use to buy hookers in the old days for that reason it's a transaction even Saudi royal family do.

Understood, no need to expose your sins of old mate

Nonetheless im not sure i beleive half these claims, theres no evidence besides oral transmissions, i know of no cismaan maxamuud with any great great grandma who was ajinabi(most cismaans know their ayeeyos for multiple generations), theres no timeline as to when this was happenning ect.

Its time hard proof is brought to substantiate these claims.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I’m talking about AA taking their slave masters names

Thailand capital It's not aptly named as bang cock lol for a joke

Love humans sometimes who don't conceal

 

[DR OSMAN]

Understood, no need to expose your sins of old mate

Nonetheless im not sure i beleive half these claims, theres no evidence besides oral transmissions, i know of no cismaan maxamuud with any great great grandma who was ajinabi(most cismaans know their ayeeyos for multiple generations), theres no timeline as to when this was happenning ect.

Its time hard proof is brought to substantiate these claims.

It's not sins wtf all the prophets and sahaba had concubines which they purchase, how is me purchasing sex a sin, they did the same. U just be modern Muslim not ancient by blood. I committed no sin it's U who was fooled by modern Muslims. Even Saudi sheikhs are seen there.

 

[TheLand]

Understood, no need to expose your sins of old mate

Nonetheless im not sure i beleive half these claims, theres no evidence besides oral transmissions, i know of no cismaan maxamuud with any great great grandma who was ajinabi(most cismaans know their ayeeyos for multiple generations), theres no timeline as to when this was happenning ect.

Its time hard proof is brought to substantiate these claims.

That lends credence to what I was saying, that they claimed certain clans who freed them same way as AA still keep their former masters last names. They all have English, Irish and Scottish last names, sometimes even German lol.

 

[DR OSMAN]

That lends credence to what I was saying, that they claimed certain clans who freed them same way as AA still keep their former masters last names. They all have English, Irish and Scottish last names, sometimes even German lol.

Waryaa even Somalis are deep in Asia and I saw heaps and we winked and head nodded each other knowing why we were there. I can't purchase the hooker for all her life like the prophet and sahaba did with their slave girls, I can however purchase her for an hour and do my thing.

She is paid and I left satisfied. That's a business transaction not zina.

I needed to do this as younger man and not be an incel nor did I want marriage commitments. I ain't dying with any bad conscious or sin as U assume, my heart is a heart of gold. I sure as hell ain't doing shukansi and all that boring shit, I ain't about colonial culture romance which is from the Roman hence romance

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TheLand U need to haggle hard on prices tho with Asians never let them fool U thinking your foreigner and don't know shit. I just got local hungry dude the second I touched down and checked into my hotel, I asked where is the poorest area among you people, went by taxi, walked around untill I found one guy, paid for his lunch(make sure U don't overpay either as their all working like rats in the supply chain for foreign dollars).

I asked him first local price Intel, how much U pay for this and that and hookers. I kept my wallet holes light yes I do see it as a war and their all trying to attack your wallet in business world. Wa dagaal dhaaqale, I also feel I didn't inflate the economy by spending like someone in the west so I think I did them s favour by being very frugal, as I saw it back then every cent lost is a cent that could've gone to bah dubays. So I saw them as enemies never friends because money was flowing out of my pocket not theirs

I didn't harm them or anything U just play diplomatic it's a war out there and it's happening at every level and scale.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TheLand

For whatever this is worth, Somali flaw is extreme not balanced or moderation, doesn't matter what they touch or interpret it's always one extreme to another regardless if you agree or disagree.

The world is a balance their is good and their is bad and if your extremely good you get owned and if your extremely bad you also get owned. What they need is balance, moderation, chi, yingyang or whatever word u wanna use for it.

Once balanced you know what hat to wear depending on the situation not wear the wrong hat for the situation

Our world and existence is bit of heaven and a bit of hell, it's in between and it's probably wise for us to also behave in line with that harmony not swing to good or bad extremes as u could be misreading the actual situation.