HSM will meet Abiy

Aurelian

Aurelian

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HSM refused to meet Abiy for months as political pressure on Abiy to withdraw from MoU, now while Abiy didn't do anything of that, HSM decided to meet him. I wonder what kind of concession HSM will give for Abiy to get his support against Madoobe. Looks like we gonna hear the "He gave up on MoU to beat Madobe" is modobe and Jubbaland that valuable than the MoU?

 
Itsnotthateasy

Itsnotthateasy

Aurelian said:
HSM refused to meet Abiy for months as political pressure on Abiy to withdraw from MoU, now while Abiy didn't do anything of that, HSM decided to meet him. I wonder what kind of concession HSM will give for Abiy to get his support against Madoobe. Looks like we gonna hear the "He gave up on MoU to beat Madobe" is modobe and Jubbaland that valuable than the MoU?

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HSM under a Trump admin could end up empty handed. The democrats were fully behind FGS while the Trump admin is already sounding very negative about FGS, so when circumstances change you change direction.
It's probably a good time to negotiate and try to get something for themselves out of the situation, at least secure Italian Somaliland which is undisputed home territory.

The meeting was announced by President of Kenya. He seemed very straightforward in saying that the stability of Somalia was very important for the region in terms of investment and business. It's weird they are talking like this now. Maybe the Trump effect is also signalling that these countries are going to have to deal with their own issues, and they recognize the dangers of the US withdrawing support particularly in Somalia and maybe the broader region and the impact it will have on their own countries.
 
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Flightboi

RiceMuncher said:
No somali president can ever give concessions on Somalilands no matter what. If HSM is now meeting the boy king, it’s to save face for that bug eyed mofo.
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How can he save face for the bug eyed boy king when everything else that doesn't result in an Ethiopian Navy base is considered a failure?

It's not possible to save face in this situation.

Either HSM gets what he wants or the Bug eyed boy king get what's he wants. It's a zero sum game here.
Only one side can win not both. HSM obviously can't give the Bug eyed boy king a Navy base in Somalia.
 
RiceMuncher

RiceMuncher

Flightboi said:
How can he save face for the bug eyed boy king when everything else that doesn't result in an Ethiopian Navy base is considered a failure?

It's not possible to save face in this situation.

Either HSM gets what he wants or the Bug eyed boy king get what's he wants. It's a zero sum game here.
Only one side can win not both. HSM obviously can't give the Bug eyed boy king a Navy base in Somalia.
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We're not after something that belongs to them sxb, they can fk off.
 
Itsnotthateasy

Itsnotthateasy

RiceMuncher said:
No somali president can ever give concessions on Somalilands no matter what. If HSM is now meeting the boy king, it’s to save face for that bug eyed mofo.
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HSM is already folding.

Give Up GIF


If you look at HSM do you see a man of principles or ideology? Or an opportunist who is out to get what he can get. I see a man who is trying to get what he can get. He's thinking with Trump coming to power, I better negotiate before my position gets even worse.

HSM is actually a good President for FGS because he isn't going to crash out trying to grab all the territory. He will probably in the end even settle for South Somalia.

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You might even see Abiy Ahmed reject this meeting, which would be the funniest thing ever. He might even demand an apology first from HSM, which would be fair considering how much HSM was talking about him. I think that's what Abiy Ahmed should ask for before discussions are held in Addis Ababa.
 
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RiceMuncher

RiceMuncher

Itsnotthateasy said:
HSM is already folding.

Give Up GIF


If you look at HSM do you see a man of principles or ideology? Or an opportunist who is out to get what he can get. I see a man who is trying to get what he can get. He's thinking with Trump coming to power, I better negotiate before my position gets even worse.

HSM is actually a good President for FGS because he isn't going to crash out trying to grab all the territory. He will probably in the end even settle for South Somalia.

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You might even see Abiy Ahmed reject this meeting, which would be the funniest thing ever. He might even demand an apology first from HSM, which would be fair considering how much HSM was talking about him. I think that's what Abiy Ahmed should ask for before discussions are held in Addis Ababa.
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Broski you care more about the xabashis than SL stop the bs. Idgaf what makes HSM happy or sad, no somali man other than a traitor to the somali race will give up an inch of Somalilands to a xabash. That bug eyed xabashi can have deeze for an apology.
 
Itsnotthateasy

Itsnotthateasy

RiceMuncher said:
Broski you care more about the xabashis than SL stop the bs. Idgaf what makes HSM happy or sad, no somali man other than a traitor to the somali race will give up an inch of Somalilands to a xabash. That bug eyed xabashi can have deeze for an apology.
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By insulting Abiy Ahmed he's also saying Somaliland has no right to enter any deals and is his property in his back pocket, which is not true at all.

Listen you would crash out but HSM got to his position by begging when he was weak, he will return to his natural form, the ultimate beggar. No more 100% US backing, it's hard times.

Im Sorry Hands And Knees GIF by Shogun FX


You think it's failure but it would be a huge success if HSM can get 400K SqKM as sovereign territory under his government. His government had zero when it started and it could leave with zero.
 
RiceMuncher

RiceMuncher

Itsnotthateasy said:
By insulting Abiy Ahmed he's also saying Somaliland has no right to enter any deals and is his property in his back pocket, which is not true at all.

Listen you would crash out but HSM got to his position by begging when he was weak, he will return to his natural form, the ultimate beggar. No more 100% US backing, it's hard times.

Im Sorry Hands And Knees GIF by Shogun FX


You think it's failure but it would be a huge success if HSM can get 400K SqKM as sovereign territory under his government. His government had zero when it started and it could leave with zero.
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3 months and the deal will be implemented
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It's done, June is the signing
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It's 2025 in a few weeks!

Still nothing but bs, give it a rest sxb. Trump won't be a savior for xabashi, he'll look out for his and as you said, we're good at begging. Locked in, finito. Abiy will be munching on Al Sisi tamr.
 
IKHALIIL

IKHALIIL

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@Itsnotthateasy
Itsnotthateasy said:
He's thinking with Trump coming to power, I better negotiate before my position gets even worse.
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With egypts stock going up thanks to israels war and the ethios joining brics i'd say abiy is fked
Trump even cut aid to the raw meat eaters before when they started acting tough. What do you think will happen to one of the newest brics member state?
It really is not that easy now is it 😃
 
Itsnotthateasy

Itsnotthateasy

IKHALIIL said:
@Itsnotthateasy

With egypts stock going up thanks to israels war and the ethios joining brics i'd say abiy is fked
Trump even cut aid to the raw meat eaters before when they started acting tough. What do you think will happen to one of the newest brics member state?
It really is not that easy now is it 😃
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Somaliland is a seperate issue, Trump has his own interests both in Somaliland and Egypt and he can maintaint both. You guys are set to be the biggest losers unless you can offer Trump something. You need to think fast.

Being Egypt's friend isn't going to be enough. That's why HSM is folding now. You can see it, we can all see it.
 
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