If Darood Ismail is really Carab

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Islam was first introduced to the prophet the yea 610 AD. This is when he received a revelation from the archangel Gabriel to become a prophet promoting monotheism and belief in Allah.
This would mean, Odey Darood Ismail and his forefathers in, "Arabia" were perhaps infidels before embracing Islam. Just like any other Arab during that era.
As the stories mention, Odey DS arrived into Somalia in terms of expanding Islam into the Horn of Africa. After arriving the local clans married him off to a Dir. Starting the Darood clan as we know it. (This is the storyline passed down to each Darood)

This would mean, Daroods have no say in contributing to Somali history and civilization. If their roots are truly traced to Arabia. The Land of Punt as we know was a civilization that erupted with great power near the Red Sea.
Many scholars have stated that it was a Cushitic empire most likely Somali. That being said, Darood was not native to Somalia and has arrived after Islam began conquering North Africa.This would mean Daroods contribution to Somali history is limited. We sometimes connect our roots to ancient Egypt, but as a Darood..that would mean I have no say in the Land of Punt or any other ancient Somali civilization that flourished in the Horn of Africa before the birth of Islam.
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The Dir and Hawiye have stated numerously that their genetics are native to Somalia. Which would indicate who the original Samales were. This would mean the Dir clan were perhaps our ancient forefathers and Darood would have been a newly wed edition to the Somali family tree.
If you're a Darood and have the sense that you're an Arab, drop the idea of ancient Somalia and its contribution to the Somali success story. You're contribution started the year 1200.
Beyond that, you would have no history in Somalia before the year 600 AD.

This is why as a Darood, i can never get jiggy with the idea that my history in Somalia started 300 years after the birth of our beloved prophet. This is why the Idea that Daroods connect their roots to Arabia is false and fabricated. You and I would both be claiming China if a prophet was sent from the Han Dynasty simply to line our roots with that messenger.
I believe its sinful to connect your roots to a prophet if in fact you have no accurate ancestral linage. This would mean you'd be claiming the prophets clanhood falsely which of course is abnormal and probably even haram. Hala isku laabto.
 

Bahal

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Lol these myths been categorically btfo by genetic testing for at least a decade
 

Hafez

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Not only is Darod Arab lineage historically and genetically incorrect, it's also mathematically impossible.
:chrisfreshhah:
 

Duchess

HRH Duchess of Puntland, The Viscount of Garoowe
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You're as native as the Samaale. You can put those bedtime stories to rest now.
 
You mentioned punt and ancient Egypt so I think the only East Africans that would fit in ancient Egypt are the afar since they adopt several hairstyles from ancient Egypt along with other ancient Egyptian dhaqan

Watch there different hairstyles


Somalis don't practice these ancient Egyptian dhaqan
 

Zayd

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Lol @ Samaale, horta wasn't that some folklore some tribe told I.M Lewis who then put it in his book, and now suddenly it's gospel truth?

If you're going to reject a oral tale (99% of Somali history) then reject all of them.
 
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You mentioned punt and ancient Egypt so I think the only East Africans that would fit in ancient Egypt are the afar since they adopt several hairstyles from ancient Egypt along with other ancient Egyptian dhaqan

Watch there different hairstyles


Somalis don't practice these ancient Egyptian dhaqan
The Afar are nowhere near the land of Punt, not in terms of location. But in terms of identity.
The ONLF liberation front in the Ogaden have adopted more hairstyles than the Afar. Check their styles out. Niggahs define rasta
 
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Lol @ Samaale, horta wasn't that some folklore some tribe told I.M Lewis who then put it in his book, and now suddenly it's gospel truth?

If you're going to reject a oral tale (99% of Somali history) then reject all of them.
By Samale, im referring the ancestor of Somalis. Whether its a tale or not doesnt really matter to me.
But we know for a fact that Darood Ismail was Somali, and not Arab. Those who think he was though, should forget contributing to Somali history.
 

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Isn't that exactly what the f*ck I'm doing with this thread? Hop off my shit

You wrote an essay based on the premise that Darood existed when there's no evidence to prove he ever did. Not only was he not Arab, you don't trace ancestry to him and your whole clan lineage is fake. There's nothing called Darood, Sade, etc. YOU ARE Samaale if there ever was such a thing.
 

Zayd

Habar Magaadle
I hear you, I was referring to the new 'theory' Somalis in the diaspora turned to, which is the theory of "all Somalis came from one man called Irir Samaale" , obviously this has no precedence besides the original source in a British explorer's book, who took it from a tribe.
 
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You wrote an essay based on the premise that Darood existed when there's no evidence to prove he ever did. Not only was he not Arab, you don't trace ancestry to him and your whole clan lineage is fake. There's nothing called Darood, Sade, etc.
Darood was a real man, but he was not Arab. Thats the point i indicated.
What tribe he is unknown. What does SADE have to do with this topic? I'm addressing DAROODS as a whole.
Why do you personally want to address my clan?
SADE IS A CLAN within DAROOD. So is your clan. Someone got butthurt and i aint even slap her bootycheeks.
 
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Shamis

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We call it timo raamo and not Rasta which is stupid worship of that wecel fake dynasty.
 

Duchess

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Darood was a real man, but he was not Arab. Thats the point i indicated.
What tribe he is unknown. What does SADE have to do with this topic? I'm addressing DAROODS as a whole.
Why do you personally want to address my clan?
SADE IS A CLAN within DAROOD. So is your clan. Someone got butthurt and i aint even slap her bootycheeks.

Can you prove that he existed? If Darood didn't exist, then neither did Sade or any other subclan that claims to trace their lineage to him.

Not everything is meant to be taken as a personal insult. :camby:
 
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The point of this was topic is to address the, "diversity" we like to mention among Somalis.
The diversity within Somalis are limited. We all share the same genetics and our identities correspond accordingly.
Tell this to an elder, and he burst out laughing. "War dee anagu carab baanu nahay, hawiye ma nihin"
When in reality, both Hawiyes and Darood share the same genetics and share everything in common.
 
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Can you prove that he existed? If Darood didn't exist, then neither did Sade or any other subclan that claims to trace their lineage to him.

Not everything is meant to be a personal insult. :camby:
Like I said, he was a Somali. Not an Arab. Thats the reason i started this topic.
Why question me what clan he is when no one knows the answer. Are you indicating that he was not Somali?:ohlord:
 
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Shamis

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I'm 100% certain that Daarood was a King and Darodia was his kingdom. He was an ethnic Somali because Daarood was a common Somali name. His wife was the Queen and the rest is just silly myths written by his commoners to endear themselves to him.
 

Duchess

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@SOMACOON

I'm indicating that he did not exist. Where is the evidence that this figure was real and a Somali at that?
 
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