Insight into 19th century North West Somalia, Ethiopian female slaves, Indians, and Arab wives in Ze

[T1a]

In Zeila. I read Richard Burton's (nacalla) account of his travels and it's an interesting read. There are Ethiopian slaves in Zeila and the Governer's son married ten wives, one of which is an Arab (doesn't mention origin). So some somalis definitely have recent non-Somali ancestry.

In general, he paints the place as being lawless, Ciise Bedouins and Habr Awal skirmishes breaking out often in the desert.

http://burtoniana.org/books/1856-First Footsteps in East Africa/1856-FirstFootstepsVer2.htm#CHAPTERIII

 

[Grant]

Wow. Just Wow. Bookmarked this in my toolbar. It gives credence to James Dahl and his maps and early Aksumite control of the north coast. No wonder no one is commenting!

 

[government]

A lot of Somalis that have family that lived in big cities definitely have recent non somali ancestry the myth of the pure Somali race is dumb

 

[oday1kenobi]

The governor of Saylac was none other than Sharmarke Ali Salih (Habar Yoonis, Musa Carre). Originally a Nakhuda (captain of a dhow) and merchant, he later rose up to become the governor of Tadjourah and Zeila.

Despite purchasing the governorship of Zeila from the Ottomans based in Western Arabia, Sharmarke was forced to depose the incumbent Mochan/Arab governor with a band of fifty Somali musketeers. Technically in the employ of the Turks, Sharmarke ruled autonomously and excreted real power in the region, even as far as Harar and Shoa (Abyssinia).

 

[oday1kenobi]

Here are some excerpts from your source OP.

His character and ambitions

"Fears of the English, Turks, and the Hajj Sharmarkay"

Sharmarke's agent in Harar was imprisoned and later died in custody so he pressured the King of Shoa to detain 300 Harari citizens in his domain

His lineage

 

[Malikfiqi]

'The chiefs, arrived at manhood, immediately marry four wives: they divorce the old and unfruitful, and, as amongst the Kafirs, allow themselves an unlimited number in peculiar cases, especially when many of the sons have fallen. Daughters, as usual in Oriental countries, do not “count” as part of the family: they are, however, utilised by the father, who disposes of them to those who can increase his wealth and importance. Divorce is exceedingly common,

Divorce was common in the 1800s in somalia, the myth that somali men and women divorce themselves too much recently is a lie its in our culture.

 

[supz]

Damn . ethiopian women very attractive. i don't know what it is about them. Just so very attractive. Their smiles and tight bodies. . Even though it makes your blood rush. Even though their soft bodies catches your attraction, the controlling mind of a woman will make you become unattracted to their bodies. Im in this too deep, May I die at an early age.

 

[oday1kenobi]

The governor's son was an educated hustler
He had 10 wifes (incl an Arab)

 

[supz]

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The governor's son was an educated hustler
He had 10 wifes (incl an Arab)

What an admirable man. . May we be educated by his strong spirit.

 

[T1a]

Here are some excerpts from your source OP.

His character and ambitions
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"Fears of the English, Turks, and the Hajj Sharmarkay"
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Sharmarke's agent in Harar was imprisoned and later died in custody so he pressured the King of Shoa to detain 300 Harari citizens in his domain
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His lineage
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HY in saylac

 

[oday1kenobi]

HY in saylac

He is also Musa Carre. MC had always been the most ilbax of HY and produced many great figures from Abdullahi Qarshe (father of Somali music) to Mahamoud Ahmed Ali (father of Somali education in pre-independence Somaliland).

 

[T1a]

You never knew?

He is also Musa Carre. MC had always been the most ilbax of HY and produced many great figures from Abdullahi Qarshe (father of Somali music) to Mahamoud Ahmed Ali (father of Somali education in pre-independence Somaliland).

That's cool, my ayeeyo is ismaciil carre

 

[oday1kenobi]

That's cool, my ayeeyo is ismaciil carre

Lol I edited it out (my ayeeyo is Musa Carre)

 

[Menelik III]

All I read was how Somalis have been conquered for over 2000 plus years.

 

[TheSayid]

All I read was how Somalis have been conquered for over 2000 plus years.

says the semetized agaw who lost his language.

 

[T1a]

All I read was how Somalis have been conquered for over 2000 plus years.

You're just mad somalis had Ethiopian slaves so recently

 

[jugjugwacwac]

says the semetized agaw who lost his language.

 

[Menelik III]

says the semetized agaw who lost his language.

Says Mr. Arab league.

We are OG Semite

 

[Sultan]

The Galla Savages decimated the great Nation of Geri Kombe

Who are the Barsuugs I know the Usbiyahan are Darood and there several Cagdheer sub clans called Bah Usbayahan .



Marehan clan living near Harar

 

[Sultan]

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The governor's son was an educated hustler
He had 10 wifes (incl an Arab)

Who was the Sultan of Isaaq or Habar Yunis during the reign of Hajjy Sharmarke in Sayla ?