Is the Horn a subcontinent, separate from North & Sub-Saharan Africa?

[Emir of Zayla]

Yes or no

 

[HiraanBorn]

Have you ever looked at a map, my guy?

 

[Chubby123]

geographically no
Politically yes

The US has a Horn of Africa plan which is different from their east Africa plan or west African plan.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Have you ever looked at a map, my guy?

Subcontinent like the Indian subcontinent that’s still apart of Asia but smth different

 

[Khaem]

East Africa is called the Somali plate and is seperate from the rest called the African plate. Currently the Somali plate and African plates are seperating from each other.
If you want to consider that as a sub continent then sure. Europe is the same, basically a massive peninsular of Asia with lots of smaller peninsulars stuck to it.

The horn is not geographically seperate from Africa. However it is genetically and culturally distinct from "black Africa" aka bantuweyn below the Sahara and the Arabs in North Africa.

Much like the Madagascars we are our own peoples. The horn has its own unique histories and identities formed over the last thousand years of constant war among the Cushites that are older than all africans beneath the Sahara.
Most have been gobbled up by the winners, the Ethiopian state in the Highlands, whilst Somalis are the only ones who maintained independence (barring our lost galbeed) whilst the rest of the horn was brought under Solomonid Rule.

This is abnormal Considering history where the horn was a vast array of smaller kingdoms/sultanates, city states and eventually empires that fought amongst themselves and sometimes fighting over the orthodox Christian west (habasha & their influence) and Islamic east (somali & their influence).

The horn could go many ways in the future. Judging by the weak states and the amount of seperatists in literally every horn african country. We could all dissolve into petty small states like before which worked before but in this globalised world would be a death sentence for the Cushitic people.
Another way things could possibly go is if the government in Addis gets absolute control of the country and takes over the somalia and Eritrea and brings it under one country. Bad news for somalis.

The last option I believe would be if the Somali clans are eventually United after a wave of religious fervour and some leader or a coalition of men unite all Somalis and declare a holy war, probably against Ethopia as has always been. This sounds crazy but looking at the past centuries whenever somalis are facing an existential threat there has always been a wave of Islamic extremism and bloodthirst for anyone considered Gaalo. Should people in Somaliweyn recognise a threat that could wipe them out there would probably be a leader or group who unites somalis for the holy war which itself could go many ways. Maybe somalis win and we see a somali golden age or we loose and Somalis are wiped out. Who knows.

 

[The alchemist]

Historically, the Horn of Africa was, from a regional globalized point of view, a northeast African extension. I don't see a cut-off that warrants a needless subjective qualifier to designate the classification for a sub-continent status.

 

[Northern Swordsman]

The horn should be considered a Peninsula at this point. It is a Peninsula.

 

[Khaem]

The horn should be considered a Peninsula at this point. It is a Peninsula.

The greater Somalia is a peninsula and is called such even by scienctists.
The horn. As a whole isn't.
But the parts of the horn that are very influential such as the habash who come from an isolated Highlands in the abyssinnian mountains & the somalis living in the Somali peninsula & the afars living in the danakil depression are all distinct geographic regions.

You can see this small area with such a large amount of geographic differences and it's no wonder the horn has so many identities. Crazy to think about how before the 1500s the land was 100x more diverse before they were gobbled up by the big ethnicities like Somali, Oromo, Amhara.
Reminds me of Europe it has so many regions no wonder it has so many small nation states look at the borders of Europe compared to Asia

 

[Emir of Zayla]

The greater Somalia is a peninsula and is called such even by scienctists.
The horn. As a whole isn't.
But the parts of the horn that are very influential such as the habash who come from an isolated Highlands in the abyssinnian mountains & the somalis living in the Somali peninsula & the afars living in the danakil depression are all distinct geographic regions.

You can see this small area with such a large amount of geographic differences and it's no wonder the horn has so many identities. Crazy to think about how before the 1500s the land was 100x more diverse before they were gobbled up by the big ethnicities like Somali, Oromo, Amhara.
Reminds me of Europe it has so many regions no wonder it has so many small nation states look at the borders of Europe compared to Asia View attachment 286564

The Horn was basically split between Muslims & Christians and from that the Zayla’i & Abyssinians. The Horn also includes the lands of Beja in Sudan & Cushitic lands in Kenya.

 

[Kisra]

The Horn was basically split between Muslims & Christians and from that the Zayla’i & Abyssinians. The Horn also includes the lands of Beja in Sudan & Cushitic lands in Kenya.
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Why would u add Beja but not the rest of Sudan?

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Why would u add Beja but not the rest of Sudan?

I think it has to do with the fact that they live in Eritrea and are a continuation of the cushitic speakers.

 

[Kisra]

I think it has to do with the fact that they live in Eritrea and are a continuation of the cushitic speakers.

But they added all of Ethiopia which contains Semitic speakers

 

[Emir of Zayla]

But they added all of Ethiopia which contains Semitic speakers

Semetic speakers but Cushitic lineage lol

 

[Bari🐍]

Semetic speakers but Cushitic lineage lol

There is absolutely no way Somalis and habesha share a lineage. I refuse to believe that

 

[Bowda-dheer]

There is absolutely no way Somalis and habesha share a lineage. I refuse to believe that

Not all but some do have cushitic lineages.

But they added all of Ethiopia which contains Semitic speakers

Ethiopia is associated with cushites nobody ever really thinks about Semitic when we talk about Ethiopia. I know habesha have mixed with Semites but their phenotypes is in line with their cushitic neighbors.

 

[Burqad]

There is absolutely no way Somalis and habesha share a lineage. I refuse to believe that

Anyone who says the word cushtitic is a dyusphora incel. Somalis are their own species

 

[Hamzarashid]

Anyone who says the word cushtitic is a dyusphora incel. Somalis are their own species

People are going to call you an invader or a arab

 

[Emir of Zayla]

There is absolutely no way Somalis and habesha share a lineage. I refuse to believe that

In reality us Horners mostly have some Semetic lineage but we’re our own people

 

[Bari🐍]

In reality us Horners mostly have some Semetic lineage but we’re our own people

Semitic?

 

[Kisra]

In reality us Horners mostly have some Semetic lineage but we’re our own people

Semitic?

All horners decend from proto-cushite who lived in Sudan