Is there a number of how many ethnic Somalis died from 1991 to 2024 to gun violence? Did Somalis facilitate their replacement?

[Adeer_Boomer]

We had the civil war, Alshabab, clan wars are still on going, and famines and droughts.
Do we have any math people here to help us out?
I hear so many people complaining about ethnic Somalis being replaced in Somalia, specially in the south as northern Somalis and galbeed Somalis are still overwhelmingly ethnic Somalis. I think there's some truth to this conspiracy but these guys forget one thing, that ethnic Somalis have butchered each other for so long that a demographic shift was inevitable. In fact, it's a miracle that it didn't happen yet.

Anyways, someone run those numbers please, consider this a service for your country.
I would be surprised if the numbers, when added together and extrapolated(where needed), don't add up to at least 5 million ethnic geeljires biting the dust through gun violence of some sort.

 

[El Nino]

You think beesha jåreerweyne were not spared? Stop this narrative guys, its sick at this point.

A former jw member of Somali national football team house was burned and his children suffered life altering injuries. Him and his family now reside in Germany. The man still has the flag at his home. A documentary was released by the germans about him and his journey.

During the war beesha jw farms were forcefully taken, do you think a moryaan with an AK would spare them? No.

Beesha JW do not inhabit any land exclusively, not even the Gosha region. Somali pastorals and farmers live right next to them. What land have they gained when ethnic somalis just march to their farms and all of them have to leave? Do they have guns? No.

Guys, think logically.

 

[Burqad]

You think beesha jåreerweyne were not spared? Stop this narrative guys, its sick at this point.

A former jw member of Somali national football team house was burned and his children suffered life altering injuries. Him and his family now reside in Germany. The man still has the flag at his home. A documentary was released by the germans about him and his journey.

During the war beesha jw farms were forcefully taken, do you think a moryaan with an AK would spare them? No.

Beesha JW do not inhabit any land exclusively, not even the Gosha region. Somali pastorals and farmers live right next to them. What land have they gained when ethnic somalis just march to their farms and all of them have to leave? Do they have guns? No.

Guys, think logically.

Who’s replacing Somalis? we have the fastest growth rate in the world and the majority of the war (from the early battles to the Ethiopian and Kenyan invasions) took place in the Gosha lol. I would say 500k total Somalis died in the civil war so far.

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

I believe a lot more died from famine and disease compared to being shot dead. Baydhabo alone had mass famine due to certain warlords

 

[Hotchick12]

And you need to think about humanitarian aid during famine, you don’t think ethnic Somalis weren’t prioritised over them, and there’s a large percentage of them that inhabit ídp in Kenya, ethnic Somalis would have blended in Nairobi and Somali communities in northern Kenya, I always see them in advertisement for refugee charities organisations

 

[Yazi]

Definitely a lot more than 500k. Raxanweyne alone lost 300k in 93 and another 200k in 2011 famine.

 

[Zak12]

that ethnic Somalis have butchered each other for so long that a demographic shift was inevitable

I heard this multiple times but no real statistics to back it up. I much rather worry about the Oromos flooding in than miskeen Bantus that have been just as impacted by the civil war as Somalis have

 

[Dalac Bilaash]

Millions perished in those wars.

 

[Riftvalley]

40 years of fighting over wells in arid, thorny bushes with suicidal fighting tactics will have an impact.

 

[aarkamudug]

Do they have guns? No.

Guys, think logically.

They actually suprisingly do have their own militias in the shabeele/hiraan regions

 

[Adeer_Boomer]

I heard this multiple times but no real statistics to back it up. I much rather worry about the Oromos flooding in than miskeen Bantus that have been just as impacted by the civil war as Somalis have

I read a thread on here about a dude who did some of the numbers. I don't know if he was wrong though. Here's the thread.

I simulated Somali population

I used a growth rate of 3.67%. I got this number from averaging out the population increases from 1983-1987. 1987 7,158,004 3.61% 1986 6,908,579 4.19% 1985 6,630,637 4.11% 1984 6,369,020 3.69% 1983 6,142,513 3.20% There was a huge dip in population in Somalia from...

www.somalispot.com

He came up with 8 million deaths, I don't know about that though.

Anyways, here's an interesting exercises. Why don't we look at Somalia's demographics just before the war and compare them to today, that should tell us if this is just a conspiracy theory or not. Now how do we get reliable date from the 80s?

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Total deaths from hunger ~600,000
Total deaths from violence ~200,000