Islam is being hijacked by radical preachers promoting arab nationalism

[bigdogg]

(an excellent read you will not waste your time reading this i ecourage you to understand this post )

there are many so called scholars preaching some very hatefull and racist shit even to the top the likesof ibn taymiayah and al-albani who are both the top scholars of salafia they are called 'scholars of islam '

the former infamously said this

shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah in his IqtiDaa’ Siraat al-Mustaqeem, volume 1, page 419:

فإن الذي عليه أهل السنة والجماعة اعتقاد أن جنس العرب أفضل من جنس العجم عبرانيهم وسريانيهم رومهم وفرسهم وغيرهم وأن قريشا أفضل العرب وأن بني هاشم أفضل قريش وأن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أفضل بني هاشم فهو أفضل الخلق نفسا وافضلهم نسبا


Indeed it is the belief of the Ahlus-Sunnah wal Jama’ah that the race of Arabs is superior to the race of non-Arabs, the Hebrews (Jews), the Syrians (Arameans), the Romans (Europeans), the Persians, and others. And indeed the Quraysh [tribe of the Prophet (S)] is the most superior among the Arabs. And indeed the Banu Hashim [the clan of the Prophet (S)] is the most superior among the Quraysh. And indeed the Prophet, may the Blessings and Peace of Allaah be upon him, is the most superior of the Banu Hashim, for he is the most superior of all creation by his own self, and also the most superior among them because of his lineage (ancestry).


and even lying and twisting the words of our prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to suit their own arab nationalism or hateful ideology

(The Prophet(S) said): ‘I am Muhammad bin ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abdul-Muttalib. Indeed, Allah created the creation and made me from the best of them, and He then made them two groups (Arabs and non-Arabs) and made me from the best of them (the Arabs), then He made the tribes and made me from the best tribe, then He made the houses and made me from the best house. So I am the best house among them, and I am the best person among them.'”

This narration has been recorded and authenticated by Shaykh Albani in his Saheeh Jami` al-Sagheer, hadith number 1472 (the book (in Arabic) can be read here: http://www.alalbany.net/4314)


and here ibn taymiyah is saying they are superior because of their morals or charachter

Ibn Taymiyyah writes:

وسبب هذا الفضل والله أعلم ما اختصوا به في عقولهم وألسنتهم وأخلاقهم وأعمالهم وذلك أن الفضل إما بالعلم النافع وإما بالعمل الصالح

This reason for this favor, and Allah knows best, is because of the quality of their minds, their language, their character, and their deeds. That is the favor, whether it is by beneficial knowledge or whether it is by righteous deeds.

Source: Iqtiḍā’ al-Ṣirāṭ al-Mustaqīm 1/447


also many shcolars believe that arabs are superior to non-arabs too

وجمهور العلماء على أن جنس العرب خير من غيرهم، كما أن جنس قريش خير من غيرهم، وجنس بني هاشم خـير مــن غيرهــم‏.‏

"And majority of the scholars believe that the arab race is better than the others, likewise race of Quraish is better than others. And race of Banu Hashim is better than others."

“…This was the position of Imam Ahmed (rahimahulla) and the majority of Ahlul ‘Ilm.”

Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/421

and here is another major scholar saying that the deeds of an arab are greater than the deeds of a non-arab and the arabs or more clever and good mannered than non-arabs bismilah this is pure bidah

the words of Imaam Shaykhul-Islam Muhamamd Naasiru-Deen al-Albanee

He said in Assilsilah Adda’eefah 163:

“The (جنس(deeds)) of Arabs is better than the (جنس(deeds)) of the rest of nations. This is what I believe, adopt as creed and consider as part of religion.
Even though I am Albanian, I am a Muslim, praise to Allah.
The virtue of the (جنس) of Arabs is the position of Ahlussunnah Waljamaa’ah. It is proven by many Hadeeths.”
We should not forget the reason why Arabs deserved this virtue. It is because of their intellect, speech ability, manners and deeds, which made them eligible to carry the Islamic Dawah to other nations.”

what im about to write next will shock you so much but pls no islam does not support this nor has allah said any group is better than another because of their skin or leniage

Shaikhul Islaam ibn Taymiyyah said in Iqtidaa’ As-siraatal-Mustaqeem:

The belief of Ahlussunnati waJamaa’ah is that the essence of Arabs is better than that of ‘Ajam(non-arabs), whether the ‘Ajam are Hebrew, Assyrians, Romans, Persians or others.

bismillah thats not even there yet

The virtue of Arabs, Quraish and then Bani Hashim is not just because the Prophet (SWS)) was from them, even though this is a part of virtue. Arabs are in themselves better. This is how it is proven that the Prophet ASWS is the best in person and lineage. Otherwise, a revolving argument will generate.

Final Words from ibn Taymiyyah’s Iqtidaa’:

“This is proof that disliking Arab’s and taking them as enemies is Kufur, or a reason for Kufur. Arabs are better than others, loving them is a reason for increasing Imaan. Had the prohibition of disliking Arabs been just like that of disliking other nations then disliking Arabs would not have been characterized as a reason to depart religion and dislike the Prophet ASWS. This proves that disliking them is worse than disliking others ...

AND IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ARABS ARE Superior you have left islam and deserve to be killed

Abu Muhammad Harb bin Ismail al-Kirmaani, the companion of Imam Ahmad, described his book of Sunnah by saying:

"This is the belief of Imaams of knowledge, those of Athar and well known people of Sunnah, which have been taken as examples. It is the belief of scholars of Iraq, Hijaaz, Sham and others.

Whomever goes against any of these Madhaahib, attacks them or despises those adopting them is a person of Bid’ah, he would be out side of Jamaa’ah, and inconsistent with the way of Sunnah and path of truth.

It is the Madhab of Ahmad, Ishaaq bin Ibrahim bin Makhlad, Abdullah bin Azzubair alHumaidee, Sa’eed bin Mansoor, and others with whom we have sat and from whom we have acquired knowledge.


These are the same scholars who radicalised millions of muslims to blow themeselves up

ill end this post with this hadith from our prophet

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“O people! Verily your Lord is One and your father [Adam] is one. An Arab is no better than a non-Arab, and a non-Arab is no better than an Arab; a red man is no better than a black man and a black man is no better than a red man – except if it is in terms of taqwa (piety)…”
(Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 22391; al-Silsilat al-Saheeh, 2700).

Rasulullah (pbuh) stated in a hadith, “At the end of time there will be ignorant worshipers and corrupt scholars.” (Hakim).

 

[Samaalic Era]

Arab Nationalism now comes in the form of Salafism which is a cancer on earth. I changed masjids because of these morons. They listen to senile old fools like fawzan and others like him.

For them, a Muslim must speak Arabic,dress like an Arab and adopt their culture and customs.

 

[4head]

Islam = Arab nationalism.

 

[one]

Corrupt ulamas is one of the many signs of the Qiyama so this stuff doesn't phase me anymore, tbh.

 

[Zucchini]

Ibn taymiyyah is a legend

 

[Cigaal]

Has Allah placed Arabs above non Arabs?


Some verses and hadiths emphasize the worth of Arabs, some emphasize the worth of non-Arabs, and some criticize part of the Arabs harshly. Our approach to this question must balance mostly the first two kinds of emphasis. This is not a defense of a cultural bias, but a description of what Allah and His Prophet said.

The evidence for the superiority of Arabs can only be based on the fact that the last Revelation took place within the historical context of Arab culture. Because of that, Arabs are distinguished, just as Muslims are distinguished, but accidentally (i.e. historically) the Arabs stand in the forefront and this is from Divine favor.

In the same sense, the Arabs are the first concerned by the Divine Revelation because Allah Most High said {We have revealed it in a clear Arabic tongue}.

The linguistic superiority of Arabic, and the superiority of Arabs in achieving full knowledge of Arabic, is a reality which is derived from the necessity of knowing the Qur'an and the Sunna fully, and they are expressed in Arabic. In that superficial linguistic sense, as in the accidental historical sense, Arabs also have a natural superiority.

None of this is to say that an impious Arab is superior to a pious non-Arab nor that an ignorant Arab is superior to a knowledgeable non-Arab: in those cases, the reverse is true. Also, a non- Arab who learns Arabic intending fuller knowledge of Shari`a, is rewarded more than if he didn;t have to learn Arabic first even if the teaching and learning of Arabic simply as a language, is mustahabb (a praiseworthy act) for all over and above that of any other language. That is why the Shari`a encourages every Muslim to learn Arabic and it is said to be a duty.

Allah also said {You are the best of peoples} (3:100) and this ayat addresses primarily the first generation of Muslims, the Muhajirun and Ansar, who were Arabs except for very few. The ahadith that praise the Prophet's generation or century, "then the next, then the next" (Muslim) and Abu Bakr and `Umar as the best of mankind after him, confirm that verse although the number of non-Arabs increased.

But the epicenter of both the abovementioned verses and the hadiths is THE PROPHET .

We respect and love Arabs only because the Prophet is one of them, in the sense that we respect and love him in those whose Arab pride consists in following him . In this respect we respect and love every sincere Muslim as every sincere Muslim is an Arab through the kinship of Islam; and every sincere Muslim is a Friend of Allah (in the general not the special sense of Wilaya) for being a follower of His Prophet . This is Imam al-Shafi`i's understanding of the Aal Muhammad in the Salat Ibrahimiyya in the last tashahhud.

It is confirmed in the narration of the two freedmen among the Companions who quarreled, whereupon each one hurled at the other the name of his ethnic origin by way of insult, namely: "You Copt!" and "You Abyssinian!" Hearing this, the Prophet said to them: "Stop this, for you are now both from Aal Muhammad." The Shaykh of our teachers Abu al-Yusr `Abidin mentioned it in his book on slavery in Islam titled _al-Qawl al-Wathiq fi Amr al-Raqiq_ citing al-Sayyid al-Hifni's _al-Jawahir al-Hisan fi Tarikh al-Habashan_.

In addition we *have to* love the actual Family of the Prophet and most of them are non-Arabs in our time. But the reason why we love anyone in Islam is Taqwa -godwariness- without which we cannot give them any attention even if they are from Ahl al-Bayt. We certainly do not love transgressors, even if they should be from Ahl al-Bayt. When the Arabs lost their Taqwa, Allah Most High withdrew power from them. So it means little to be a Sayyid or Sharif without taqwa, and even less to be an Arab unless one has taqwa.

In his last `Umra (year 1421) the Sharif Sidi Mustafa Basir al-Hasani was sitting in front of the Muwajaha al-Sharifa at which time one of the Arab guards there asked him: "Does it help anyone to be from Ahl al-Bayt?" He replied without looking at him: "With Taqwa." The other said: "And without Taqwa?" Shaykh Mustafa replied: "I told you: with Taqwa."

Allah Most High said in the Qur'an (49:13):

{{O humankind! Lo! We created you male and female, and made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Surely, the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the most righteous of you. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.}}

"Qila ya rasulallah man akram al-nas?..." The Prophet was asked: "Who are the best of people?" He replied: "The most God-conscious." They said: "We did not mean that." He said: "Yusuf the Prophet of Allah, son of the Prophet of Allah (Ya`qub), son of the Prophet of Allah (Ishaq), son of the Friend of Allah (Ibrahim)." They said: "We didn't meant that." He said: "If you are asking me about the nation [ma`adin = stocks] of the Arabs, then the best of them in the Time of ignorance are the best of them in Islam if/when they understand." Sahih Muslim.

In other words, nobility is of three kinds: (1) Godwariness - of which the Prophet Muhammad is the highest example; (2) the Prophetic House; and (3) Fitra or Pristine Disposition.

Furthermore, Rasulullah said in the Farewell Pilgrimage:

"There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab,

nor of a non-Arab over an Arab.... except in whoever

fears Allah the most."

This is narrated from 17 Sahaba, so it is mutawatir (mass-transmitted). And this is the belief of Imam al-Shafi`i (ra).

http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/fiqha_e76.html

 

[madaxweyne]

We should end diplomatic ties with Arabs
And ban Saudi Arabia

Salafism wahabism alshabab =Saudi Arabian Arab nationalism

Result
Destruction of Somalis

 

[Samaalic Era]

Has Allah placed Arabs above non Arabs?


Some verses and hadiths emphasize the worth of Arabs, some emphasize the worth of non-Arabs, and some criticize part of the Arabs harshly. Our approach to this question must balance mostly the first two kinds of emphasis. This is not a defense of a cultural bias, but a description of what Allah and His Prophet said.

The evidence for the superiority of Arabs can only be based on the fact that the last Revelation took place within the historical context of Arab culture. Because of that, Arabs are distinguished, just as Muslims are distinguished, but accidentally (i.e. historically) the Arabs stand in the forefront and this is from Divine favor.

In the same sense, the Arabs are the first concerned by the Divine Revelation because Allah Most High said {We have revealed it in a clear Arabic tongue}.

The linguistic superiority of Arabic, and the superiority of Arabs in achieving full knowledge of Arabic, is a reality which is derived from the necessity of knowing the Qur'an and the Sunna fully, and they are expressed in Arabic. In that superficial linguistic sense, as in the accidental historical sense, Arabs also have a natural superiority.

None of this is to say that an impious Arab is superior to a pious non-Arab nor that an ignorant Arab is superior to a knowledgeable non-Arab: in those cases, the reverse is true. Also, a non- Arab who learns Arabic intending fuller knowledge of Shari`a, is rewarded more than if he didn;t have to learn Arabic first even if the teaching and learning of Arabic simply as a language, is mustahabb (a praiseworthy act) for all over and above that of any other language. That is why the Shari`a encourages every Muslim to learn Arabic and it is said to be a duty.

Allah also said {You are the best of peoples} (3:100) and this ayat addresses primarily the first generation of Muslims, the Muhajirun and Ansar, who were Arabs except for very few. The ahadith that praise the Prophet's generation or century, "then the next, then the next" (Muslim) and Abu Bakr and `Umar as the best of mankind after him, confirm that verse although the number of non-Arabs increased.

But the epicenter of both the abovementioned verses and the hadiths is THE PROPHET .

We respect and love Arabs only because the Prophet is one of them, in the sense that we respect and love him in those whose Arab pride consists in following him . In this respect we respect and love every sincere Muslim as every sincere Muslim is an Arab through the kinship of Islam; and every sincere Muslim is a Friend of Allah (in the general not the special sense of Wilaya) for being a follower of His Prophet . This is Imam al-Shafi`i's understanding of the Aal Muhammad in the Salat Ibrahimiyya in the last tashahhud.

It is confirmed in the narration of the two freedmen among the Companions who quarreled, whereupon each one hurled at the other the name of his ethnic origin by way of insult, namely: "You Copt!" and "You Abyssinian!" Hearing this, the Prophet said to them: "Stop this, for you are now both from Aal Muhammad." The Shaykh of our teachers Abu al-Yusr `Abidin mentioned it in his book on slavery in Islam titled _al-Qawl al-Wathiq fi Amr al-Raqiq_ citing al-Sayyid al-Hifni's _al-Jawahir al-Hisan fi Tarikh al-Habashan_.

In addition we *have to* love the actual Family of the Prophet and most of them are non-Arabs in our time. But the reason why we love anyone in Islam is Taqwa -godwariness- without which we cannot give them any attention even if they are from Ahl al-Bayt. We certainly do not love transgressors, even if they should be from Ahl al-Bayt. When the Arabs lost their Taqwa, Allah Most High withdrew power from them. So it means little to be a Sayyid or Sharif without taqwa, and even less to be an Arab unless one has taqwa.

In his last `Umra (year 1421) the Sharif Sidi Mustafa Basir al-Hasani was sitting in front of the Muwajaha al-Sharifa at which time one of the Arab guards there asked him: "Does it help anyone to be from Ahl al-Bayt?" He replied without looking at him: "With Taqwa." The other said: "And without Taqwa?" Shaykh Mustafa replied: "I told you: with Taqwa."

Allah Most High said in the Qur'an (49:13):

{{O humankind! Lo! We created you male and female, and made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Surely, the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the most righteous of you. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.}}

"Qila ya rasulallah man akram al-nas?..." The Prophet was asked: "Who are the best of people?" He replied: "The most God-conscious." They said: "We did not mean that." He said: "Yusuf the Prophet of Allah, son of the Prophet of Allah (Ya`qub), son of the Prophet of Allah (Ishaq), son of the Friend of Allah (Ibrahim)." They said: "We didn't meant that." He said: "If you are asking me about the nation [ma`adin = stocks] of the Arabs, then the best of them in the Time of ignorance are the best of them in Islam if/when they understand." Sahih Muslim.

In other words, nobility is of three kinds: (1) Godwariness - of which the Prophet Muhammad is the highest example; (2) the Prophetic House; and (3) Fitra or Pristine Disposition.

Furthermore, Rasulullah said in the Farewell Pilgrimage:

"There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab,

nor of a non-Arab over an Arab.... except in whoever

fears Allah the most."

This is narrated from 17 Sahaba, so it is mutawatir (mass-transmitted). And this is the belief of Imam al-Shafi`i (ra).

http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/fiqha_e76.html

Theres nothing special about Arabs. Bani Israil were given the Tawrat,Zabur and the Injeel. They had the greatest figures in Human history, the likes of Musa,Dawud,Sulayman,Ilyas,Yahya and Isa.

Yet, they were cursed by Allah swt.

Allah swt says

Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 54:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مَن يَرْتَدَّ مِنكُمْ عَن دِينِهِ فَسَوْفَ يَأْتِي اللَّهُ بِقَوْمٍ يُحِبُّهُمْ وَيُحِبُّونَهُ أَذِلَّةٍ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَعِزَّةٍ عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ يُجَاهِدُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَلَا يَخَافُونَ لَوْمَةَ لَائِمٍ ذَٰلِكَ فَضْلُ اللَّهِ يُؤْتِيهِ مَن يَشَاءُ وَاللَّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ

O you who believe! whoever from among you turns back from his religion, then Allah will bring a people, He shall love them and they shall love Him, humble before the believers, mighty against the unbelievers, they shall strive hard in Allah's way and shall not fear the blame of the blamers; this is the grace of Allah, He gives it to whom He pleases, and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.

The Arabs have followed their cousins in leaving the Covenant of Allah swt. They will meet the same end

 

[angelplan]

 

[YourBroMoe]

Whenever I bring up that Islam is objectively an Arab religion, people get pissed.

The same type of people with Arab names, reciting Arabic verses that they don't know, wearing Arabian attire for religious holidays, using Arabic phrases as blessings, etc.

One day I asked a guy why Arabic needed to be the way the Quran is read. He said it's because that's the purest interpretation of the book. I asked if the book was perfect. He said yes. I said, how the f*ck can a book be perfect, if it can't even be completely translated in other languages with the entirety of the message intact?

 

[Samaalic Era]

Whenever I bring up that Islam is objectively an Arab religion, people get pissed.

The same type of people with Arab names, reciting Arabic verses that they don't know, wearing Arabian attire for religious holidays, using Arabic phrases as blessings, etc.

One day I asked a guy why Arabic needed to be the way the Quran is read. He said it's because that's the purest interpretation of the book. I asked if the book was perfect. He said yes. I said, how the f*ck can a book be perfect, if it can't even be completely translated in other languages with the entirety of the message intact?

The message of Islam is the truth and is complete. As long you live by it, your cultural identity will be safe. Im a Muslim who firmly believes in Islam and i oppose Arab Nationalism. Islam is not Arabism

 

[CaliTedesse]

Look at all the kufar flocking tot this thread just because some old men of the past used tot think that way. This has nothing to do with Islam

 

[CaliTedesse]

Islam = Arab nationalism.

@geeljire madaxweyne I see you agree with this statement. So brother are you not a Muslim?

 

[YourBroMoe]

The message of Islam is the truth and is complete. As long you live by it, your cultural identity will be safe. Im a Muslim who firmly believes in Islam and i oppose Arab Nationalism. Islam is not Arabism

Do you have an Arab name?
Do you use Arab phrases, when the English translation would suffice?
Do you dress in Arabian attire in religious holidays?

I can go on. Basically speaking, Islam is an excuse used to allow Arab culture into another's culture.

Islam's principles and morals are all taken from Judaism and Christianity. It's what pulls people in.

Where Judaism is an ethno-religion, and as such, it has no issues with cultural identity, Christianity is very much a free for all religion. You can and are encouraged to read the bible in whatever language you speak. You'll see every type of name imaginable with Christians. You'll see basic similarities on how one behaves in Church, but different cultures bring their own flavor, without removing the core values.

Islam does not go through this. There's a universality to Islam. From Mali to Indonesia. From Western China to Iran. From Turkey to Sudan. Arabic culture lives in all of these countries. All of which HAD rich historic cultures, that with the advent of Islam, changed dramatically.

What do you make of this?

 

[Samaalic Era]

Do you have an Arab name?
Do you use Arab phrases, when the English translation would suffice?
Do you dress in Arabian attire in religious holidays?

I can go on. Basically speaking, Islam is an excuse used to allow Arab culture into another's culture.

Islam's principles and morals are all taken from Judaism and Christianity. It's what pulls people in.

Where Judaism is an ethno-religion, and as such, it has no issues with cultural identity, Christianity is very much a free for all religion. You can and are encouraged to read the bible in whatever language you speak. You'll see every type of name imaginable with Christians. You'll see basic similarities on how one behaves in Church, but different cultures bring their own flavor, without removing the core values.

Islam does not go through this. There's a universality to Islam. From Mali to Indonesia. From Western China to Iran. From Turkey to Sudan. Arabic culture lives in all of these countries. All of which HAD rich historic cultures, that with the advent of Islam, changed dramatically.

What do you make of this?

Christianity is the worse form of slavery and control. Its a Eurocentric religion. In the Qur'an, Allah swt ordered to worship him and did not order us to be Arabs. Allah swt said he made us into Nations and Tribes. What you are confusing is Salafists and their campaign from the 1700s onwards. If you allow yourself to be overtaken by Arabs, then those ppl are idiots who had it coming. For me, my Islam and my Somalinimo both come hand in hand and both of them together is what it means to be Somali.

 

[CaliTedesse]

We should end diplomatic ties with Arabs
And ban Saudi Arabia

Salafism wahabism alshabab =Saudi Arabian Arab nationalism

Result
Destruction of Somalis

Negro ending ties with the Arabs is not in favour of Somalis. All the people they might be devastated by the consequences of cutting ties with the Arabs this will have drastic economic consequences for their livelihoods most of Somali export goes to the Arab peninsula. You see you are only thinking with your emotions and not with your brain. If you were sincere about your Somali nationalism you would not even once think about cutting ties with other nations or ethnic groups. Building bridges is the best option. It's easy for a spoiled qurbajoog guy like you to utter such words from behind his keyboard.

 

[YourBroMoe]

Christianity is the worse form of slavery and control. Its a Eurocentric religion. In the Qur'an, Allah swt ordered to worship him and did not order us to be Arabs. Allah swt said he made us into Nations and Tribes. What you are confusing is Salafists and their campaign from the 1700s onwards. If you allow yourself to be overtaken by Arabs, then those ppl are idiots who had it coming. For me, my Islam and my Somalinimo both come hand in hand and both of them together is what it means to be Somali.

All I'm saying is that I see cultural hooks from a source that people seem to have a hard time getting rid of.

I get your point though.

 

[CaliTedesse]

Alhamdullilah for Islam

 

[madaxweyne]

@CaliTedesse
i said break relations with saudia arabia
also we can export to other arab countries just not saudia arabia and its false form of islam known as wahabism which pushes and arab nationalism on somalis that i reject

and yes am muslim but that doesn mean am an arab thats wahabism or salafi and thats fake form of islam from th 1700s pushed by saudai arabia as its forighn policy

 

[NFD]

And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur'an, they would have said, "Why are its verses not explained in detail [in our language]? Is it a foreign [recitation] and an Arab [messenger]?" Say, "It is, for those who believe, a guidance and cure." And those who do not believe - in their ears is deafness, and it is upon them blindness. Those are being called from a distant place. (41:44)

These are opinions and everyone is entitled to them. What does the Quran and sahih hadith say is all that should matter.