Its Time We Discuss Burying Puntland Now

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No amount of faan or war of words will change what is quite predictable here.

ISIS is no different to Al Shabab, Al itihaad, Hizbul Islam, their idealogical homeland is Egypt and their seen as a local chapter in different theaters the brotherhood Is operating.

Their actually the militant side of the Muslim brotherhood side while the political side is Al Islah, ictisaam, Dam jadiid and many more.

What don't these loser puntites don't get waxba kuma yaalo Egypt, your seen as an obstacle due to alitihaad wars there in the 90s. Abdiqasim Salat u think he would retire there if he doesn't think hawiyenimo or irirism isn't being pushed by Egyptians?

Do I need to remind you of Sal balaar Cairo conference and how they even endorsed Ali Mahdi and Aideed as President and PM? It's time u wake up and smell the damn coffee. Their no love for PL in Egypt or anyone who adheres to Ikhwaan idealogy like Qatar and Turkey.

Where u think that fake sheikh atom is balling rite now? in Qatar just like every other terrorist is. This dude killed 300 of your ppl, balls in Qatar and u think Qatar likes u? This is what I call a silly ppl who neglect their own interest, their no helping such people, they just need to be conquered and thrown out immediately.

War waxba kuma yaalo ikhwaan muslimeen movements whether political or militant. Stop trying to turn into a cash cow an existential enemy to PL, the west and the whole Khaleej, a serious enemy to them just like us and wipe them off the face of the earth this ikhwaan cancer.
 
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These terrorists r simply known as Trojans who can be called upon anytime when the conditions are ripe for Sal balaar or irir Samaale Somalia.

That's why they remain dormant. Terrorism is just another jambal to keep Somalia unstable due to some clans in the nation's saying irir samaale outcomes are still not realised let's keep it in conflict.

What you need to do is address the root cause which is irir samaale not the symptoms such as terrorism, corruption, delaying, distracting, denial, sending horgals to instigate clan wars, secession.

These are all symptoms nothing more nothing less of two clans agreeing that it's in the interest of 2 shitty towns Mogadishu and Hargeisa to subjectate 90 districts of the nation thru some north and south idealogy.

They both agreed to create any jambal whether secession, terrorism, economic embargo, scholarship embargo, corruption to make Federalism fail, never ending meetings cause it allows them to delay the whole nation over a stupid dead on arrival clannist idealogy(2 towns ruling 90 cities).
 
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This is me untill I see the real root cause of Somali conflict is addressed not the symptoms

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Every other topic I see in here and also social media is just chasing the jambals or symptoms to delay, distract, deny nothing more nothing less. As far as I see ppl pursuing the jambals whether secession, terrorism, economic and scholarship embargo, clan horgals to set up clan war and division, corruption and looting to make federalism appear as unworkable, untill I see such Somalis talking of analysing symptoms and not the root cause, I'll remain absolute fierce and no nonsense.
 

No amount of faan or war of words will change what is quite predictable here.

ISIS is no different to Al Shabab, Al itihaad, Hizbul Islam, their idealogical homeland is Egypt and their seen as a local chapter in different theaters the brotherhood Is operating.

Their actually the militant side of the Muslim brotherhood side while the political side is Al Islah, ictisaam, Dam jadiid and many more.

What don't these loser puntites don't get waxba kuma yaalo Egypt, your seen as an obstacle due to alitihaad wars there in the 90s. Abdiqasim Salat u think he would retire there if he doesn't think hawiyenimo or irirism isn't being pushed by Egyptians?

Do I need to remind you of Sal balaar Cairo conference and how they even endorsed Ali Mahdi and Aideed as President and PM? It's time u wake up and smell the damn coffee. Their no love for PL in Egypt or anyone who adheres to Ikhwaan idealogy like Qatar and Turkey.

Where u think that fake sheikh atom is balling rite now? in Qatar just like every other terrorist is. This dude killed 300 of your ppl, balls in Qatar and u think Qatar likes u? This is what I call a silly ppl who neglect their own interest, their no helping such people, they just need to be conquered and thrown out immediately.

War waxba kuma yaalo ikhwaan muslimeen movements whether political or militant. Stop trying to turn into a cash cow an existential enemy to PL, the west and the whole Khaleej, a serious enemy to them just like us and wipe them off the face of the earth this ikhwaan cancer.
Yes Isis in PL is an irir samaale conspiracy we know, hundreds of Ethiopian/foreign fighters enter SL with SL authorities fully knowing their isis, and they let them get picked up by their handlers and driven deep into bari. This is what I mean when I say we have nothing in common with these people, they are a natural enemy.
 

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This mess reminds me of upper Egypt and lower Egypt difficulties unifying. I'm studying what successful kings did to keep it unified.
 

DR OSMAN

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Yes Isis in PL is an irir samaale conspiracy we know, hundreds of Ethiopian/foreign fighters enter SL with SL authorities fully knowing their isis, and they let them get picked up by their handlers and driven deep into bari. This is what I mean when I say we have nothing in common with these people, they are a natural enemy.

I wish there was a video of intellectuals actually discussing the root cause not the never ending symptoms(shaati la soo gashtay) which is numerous and never ending untill we address this irir samaale idealogical cancer.

As usual, i don't see anyone really discussing it so their off chasing the jambals which will never end by the way, but addressing the root cause will provide for no more jambals being deployed.

Irir Samaale from what I have gathered was founded by some Hawadle dude(not sure he created it due to something personal to him or if it was a genuine anti darod thing), I'll let historians decide and collect the facts on that. What we do know tho is USC and SNM have embraced the idea of two cities yes Hargeisa and Mogadishu basically dictating to 90 cities in the nation's while employing colonial borders.

We know full well also 97% of the nations population live outside Hargeisa and Mogadishu. How does it seem reasonable to them 3% of the nation which is Hargeisa and Mogadishu rule 97%, that's something I would definitely ask their irir samaalist loyalists.
 
This lunatics generally believe that they’re preparing to join the army of the Mehdi. Go read the Hadith about the black flags coming from Khorsan (Afghanistan). The whole belief system is based in eschatology. Their goal is to die as a “martyr” and enter paradise not benefiting the society around them.
 
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@DR OSMAN @The Oponian Guild I did a thread back in october about the taliban funding terrorism. https://www.somalispot.com/threads/are-the-taliban-funding-terrorism.173883/

Turns out I was right

You do realize the taliban and is1s is very different in ideology, even they are dealing with is1s which in modern times everyone knows where it comes from. Their sent to destablize muslim countries. PL should just wipe them out and closely monitor the ports and where they are sent from. Clearly they are all foreingers who are without a doubt using some sort of mind control or magic to convince people to join their cause, Now that im thinking about it thats probably how they gain members lol.
 

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You do realize the taliban and is1s is very different in ideology, even they are dealing with is1s which in modern times everyone knows where it comes from. Their sent to destablize muslim countries. PL should just wipe them out and closely monitor the ports and where they are sent from. Clearly they are all foreingers who are without a doubt using some sort of mind control or magic to convince people to join their cause, Now that im thinking about it thats probably how they gain members lol.

The Muslims are definitely not sending their best like investors but killers lol 😆 but to naive and gullible bari folks they argue these are our brothers but westerners who took your ppl in during their most desperate time are bad bad bad while none of your so called brother in faith didnt even dedicate a tent and camp for you which even Kenya and Ethiopia did.

Even @Dalac Bilaash is shocked at these Somalis.

You can't make this shit up wallahi in Somalia, their all @Libaax-Joore


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Do Somalis a favor and get rid of this cultural and religious madness and only judge people on actions, evidence not faith. Faith is for God not between humanity these ppl really piss me off.
 
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The Muslims are definitely not sending their best like investors but killers lol 😆 but to naive and gullible bari folks they argue these are our brothers but westerners who took your ppl in during their most desperate time are bad bad bad while none of your so called brother in faith didnt even dedicate a tent and camp for you which even Kenya and Ethiopia did.

Even @Dalac Bilaash is shocked at these Somalis.

You can't make this shit up wallahi in Somalia, their all @Libaax-Joore


That 70S Show Lol GIF by Peacock


Do Somalis a favor and get rid of this cultural and religious madness and only judge people on actions, evidence not faith. Faith is for God not between humanity these ppl really piss me off.
no no no Osman you completely missed it, I was not implying that muslims were sending these. Dalac Bilash, He has some sort of good vision but we are not talking about this one. No one is shocked on somalis. Look you are a somali. Dude you completely missed the point no no no
 

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no no no Osman you completely missed it, I was not implying that muslims were sending these. Dalac Bilash, He has some sort of good vision but we are not talking about this one. No one is shocked on somalis. Look you are a somali. Dude you completely missed the point no no no

Our relationship with the Muslim world needs to end in the Mosque and I agree with @Dalac Bilaash on that. In this world tho everyone has different histories, priorities, and interests.

We must judge humans no matter what religion they profess on actions and deeds and evidence not empty words and praying. Actions speak far louder then praying.

As for the Muslim world their never sending anything positive to us, always negative and then u have idiots in the nation saying we r brothers hell f*ck we are, maybe we can be spiritual brothers after this world is fair enuff but we r not brothers in this world their actions speak far louder then their empty words.

Our only brothers in this world is those who send positivity and prove it thru actions and deeds id make that mandatory education on any future kid rising up in politics.
 

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Our relationship with the Muslim world needs to end in the Mosque and I agree with @Dalac Bilaash on that. In this world tho everyone has different histories, priorities, and interests.

We must judge humans no matter what religion they profess on actions and deeds and evidence not empty words and praying. Actions speak far louder then praying.

As for the Muslim world their never sending anything positive to us, always negative and then u have idiots in the nation saying we r brothers hell f*ck we are, maybe we can be spiritual brothers after this world is fair enuff but we r not brothers in this world their actions speak far louder then their empty words.

Our only brothers in this world is those who send positivity and prove it thru actions and deeds id make that mandatory education on any future kid rising up in politics.
I've always said nothing good comes out of the muh ummah people they will always send us terrorists
 
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