Many things in Islam seem unnecessary

It is for our sake and an expression of Allah's mercy. The judge knows the outcome but the defendant deserves justification. It would not be fair for someone to be teleported to hell without being told why. That is why angels record our deeds and why we have a day of judgement.
I wish I was as smart as you. Few words to get your point across.

"ALLAH IS THE MOST MERCIFUL" one of Allahs attributes is to be merciful. :icon mrgreen:
 
Since Qadr exists and Allah already knows every thing that has and will happen things like angels writing down all that we do seem a bit unnecessary. Also the day of judgement which is a crazy time of horror seem kind of like a charade since the decisions are already known.
Aren't you the agnostic?
 

Xaruun

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ok I am going to explain it like a 5 years old. Because you sound lost, and the people answering you are really aggressive in their answers. It's always better to trust in God. It's easier. You can never go wrong with that trust. It will never betray you.

Simple answer
Here its how it works. Destiny is already written, but not in the way you think. Think about a branch on a tree and how it diverges into multiple parts. That's how destiny is written, God knows every possible option for you. Meaning you can only pray for a better path but without asking for it, nothing ever changes, thats where DUA and prayer comes in.

Destiny has been written before you were born, but not in a linear manner. It goes into the infinite multiverse. Meaning GOD, has already written your death and your net worth in life for every variance in your multiple universes. He knows every single choice you are going to make. There is nothing that can surprise him. Although GOD can change your future paths, remember your life has many ways to branch out. In your future path you can be a drug addict, in another future path a gangster. Sometimes nothing ever changes, you are born poor and you die poor. You always prayed for a better life, but you were never given one. Except in your hereafter, your rewards are there and ever lasting.

You are bestowed the will to ask, nothing else. Its like a game simulation, everything is set at stone, Your body, your struggles and your relationships. It doesn't mean your path can be tweaked. In every game you have 4 options for an ending, except in the real life. Your choices are endless in the real life, and Allah knows every single one of them. Its predestined.
That actually makes sense, I didn’t think of it that way
 
Brother asked a good question. Dr Zakir Naik Voice

Brother says :Why are their angels recording peoples good and bad deeds if Allah swt knows everything?

Brother firstly the angels record good and bad deeds as I comprehend for the person and not for Allah swt.
These good deeds and bad deeds will be showcased in front of the resurrected individual. This is all for the individual, because at the end of the day Allah swt is the judge and even one with many bad deeds can be granted access to Paradise only by Allah (swt) mercy, since he knows all.

Hope I have answered your question brother. Dr Zakir Naik Voice


Disclaimer: In no way do I represent a person fully immersed in Islamic history and theology or do I posses a degree in Islamic studies.
It is for our sake and an expression of Allah's mercy. The judge knows the outcome but the defendant deserves justification. It would not be fair for someone to be teleported to hell without being told why. That is why angels record our deeds and why we have a day of judgement.
This makes a lot of sense,
But im still confused on the "Free will" part. How can we have free will if allah (swt) knows every single path, ending and choice we make?. We are intellectually capable of taking our own moral responsibility, but as soon as allah (swt) created me, he knew every mistake and choice i make, nothing will surprise him. So in a sense he made a plan for us with trillions of possiblities with different paths that he knows of. So lets say i program and build a A.i
I dont want to compare Allahs (swt) creations to something as mere as A.i but its the only thing i can think of, ok so lets say i build this thing and i program it, so it can solve algorithms and its self learning. This computer can choose between a lot of possibilities and paths it can take to solve a piece, but i know its capabilities and its limits. I know illahaay made us a lot more complicated. So can it be considered free will? just a question
 

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God doesn't make angels write because he needs them. They are there for us. The books are there to show us our bad and good deeds, proof of our existence and the reality of our actions. Fortunately that's not their only use, the good deeds can be also a good indication on when our paths were tweaked and how much your good deeds were worth.

A mental person who has killed 100 people and still got in Jannah tells you that, they were already predestined to kill them. Just like prophet Adam was predestined to be kicked out of Paradise, Allah wants us to sin so we can go back to him using our own FREE WILL. You may not be able to control the story or its narrative, but you are able to ask forgiveness with your consciousness.

Humans are sly, some of them will reject that they sinned in their past while facing God in the day of judgement. The books are there as mediator, between the person and their feelings, humans are emotional and will always be. It's a weakness God gave us. You can only make a person understand, if they read about it.

Allah's Messenger (pbuh) as saying: Had you not committed sins, Allah would have brought into existence a creation that would have committed sin (and Allah) would have forgiven them. Sahih Muslim The Book of Repentance Book 50, Hadith 11. That proofs my point, that sinning isn't the objective in life. It's being close to God, and every time you lose connection with him, you should always go back. Sinning will always happen, you can't stop it. The important part is resisting it and if you can't ......repent. It's all about your WILL. Do you care enough to ask GOD?
Allah is justice and I wish to sit under his shadow on the judgments day.
Imagine having Allah to know everything about you and all your mistakes. And still be there for you if you choose to worship him and ask his forgiveness sincerely:jcoleno::kendrickcry::rejoice:
 

Nalle

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This makes a lot of sense,
But im still confused on the "Free will" part. How can we have free will if allah (swt) knows every single path, ending and choice we make?. We are intellectually capable of taking our own moral responsibility, but as soon as allah (swt) created me, he knew every mistake and choice i make, nothing will surprise him. So in a sense he made a plan for us with trillions of possiblities with different paths that he knows of. So lets say i program and build a A.i
I dont want to compare Allahs (swt) creations to something as mere as A.i but its the only thing i can think of, ok so lets say i build this thing and i program it, so it can solve algorithms and its self learning. This computer can choose between a lot of possibilities and paths it can take to solve a piece, but i know its capabilities and its limits. I know illahaay made us a lot more complicated. So can it be considered free will? just a question

Allah swt knows every choice You have made and are going to make, it is very simple. Obviously he created us and knows what we are up to. This doesn’t mean that we are not the ones paving our ways and making our own individual choices.
Having God knowing beforehand what life choices you’re going to make doesn’t have to mean he is the one making those choices for you. You still have the free will but the only difference is Allah swt already knows about it cuz nothing can be hidden from him, wether it is in the past or in the future, hence why nothing will “surprise” him as you stated.
It is pretty simple and not that complicated at all :it0tdo8:
May Allah guide us, and if something of the things I stated is wrong or incorrect it is my mistake, as I’m a wrongdoer and Allah is perfect.

Allah says: “He is the First and the Last, the Manifest and the Hidden, and He is the Knower of all things.” (Qur'an, 57:3)
 
Since Qadr exists and Allah already knows every thing that has and will happen things like angels writing down all that we do seem a bit unnecessary. Also the day of judgement which is a crazy time of horror seem kind of like a charade since the decisions are already known.

It would make sense if you wished to cast fear into the hearts of people. Whereby by threatening 'judgement' you acquire power in the real world and can force people to follow your rules. Of course the whole charade doesn't matter because it doesn't exist.
 
It would make sense if you wished to cast fear into the hearts of people. Whereby by threatening 'judgement' you acquire power in the real world and can force people to follow your rules. Of course the whole charade doesn't matter because it doesn't exist.
I dont believe it myself, I was randomly thinking about if everything was true and looking through the lens of god in that scenario.
 

Cyrus

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This makes a lot of sense,
But im still confused on the "Free will" part. How can we have free will if allah (swt) knows every single path, ending and choice we make?. We are intellectually capable of taking our own moral responsibility, but as soon as allah (swt) created me, he knew every mistake and choice i make, nothing will surprise him. So in a sense he made a plan for us with trillions of possiblities with different paths that he knows of. So lets say i program and build a A.i
I dont want to compare Allahs (swt) creations to something as mere as A.i but its the only thing i can think of, ok so lets say i build this thing and i program it, so it can solve algorithms and its self learning. This computer can choose between a lot of possibilities and paths it can take to solve a piece, but i know its capabilities and its limits. I know illahaay made us a lot more complicated. So can it be considered free will? just a question
Look up something called Compatibilism, you can have free will and determinism at play together.
 
Although humans possess free will (or, more accurately, freedom of intention), they have no power to create anything, thus simply decide between God's given possibilities
 
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