Mawlid

[Abdalla]

I am spiritually a Salafi but politically a Suufi. People backhome have celebrating the mawlid the past few days. I did a quick google search and it turns out that the mawlid is on January 3rd. So does the mawlid celebration take a week or so?

Heres Abdiweli Gaas doing nabi amaan. I like the melody of nabi amaans.

 

[Duchess]

I heard mowlid was banned in Mogadishu. lol


BTW, how are you spiritually Salafi but politically Sufi?

 

[Abdalla]

I support Sufis for political reasons. Sufism, unlike salafism, is a homegrown ideology. Besides salafis are loyal to other countries such as KSA.

I grew up with Salafis, the dugsi I went and the mosque I go to are run by Salafis. I guess I got indoctrinated. I only know the Salafi interpretation of the religion.

 

[Zuleikha]

Mawliid is shirk.

 

[Zayd]

Mawliid is shirk.

Don't rush to say things that can lead you to jahannam.

 

[Abdalla]

Mawliid is shirk.

I heard the bidca accusation but not shirk. Some anti mawlid sheikhs say that those that celebrate mawlid might get xasanaat because of their love for the prophet. Anti mawlid folks say that mawlid doesnt have base in the Sunnah since the sahaba, who loved the prophet more than us, didnt celebrate it. Pro mawlid base their justification on the hadeeth that says that Abu Jahl,Islams worst enemy, gets a bit of water on every monday because he slaughtered a camel as a celebration when his nephew Mohammed AS was born. So that action and his love for the prophet gets him a bit of relieve in hellfire. Interesting perspective from both sides.

 

[Zayd]

Abdalla it is best to leave it to the 'Ulema, one of the biggest proofs that the Mawlid isn't a "Bid'ah Dhalalan" but a "Bid'ah Hasana"
is that the entire Ummah partakes and embraced this occasion for centuries.

This is a proof because in Bukhari the Prophet (saw) said " al-ummati la tajtami' 'ala dhalaalah" " my ummah will never unite upon misguidance".
They have united upon the Mawlid.

What I am against however, are some groups who do stuff like placing a chair on a stage and saying " The rasuul (pbuh) is sitting on the chair"
this is bizarre. People gathering and reciting the seerah as well as poems in celebration of the birth of the last prophet has a lot of barakah in it.

 

[madamelioness]

It's bidca.

We only have 2 celebrations in Islam. Everything else is innovation.

 

[Zuleikha]

Don't rush to say things that can lead you to jahannam.

What I meant to say is mawliid is bid'ah an act of shirk. We shouldn't celebrate the prophets birthdays. He and his companions didn't celebrate so why do we need to do it. What I've heard about mawlid is they sing to seek help from the prophets saw. We should only seek help from allah swt after all he is the one who created us

 

[SOMACOON]

Theres nothing wrong with a little nabi amaan, I've got no issues with Sufis. The mowlid is rather refreshing. I've been to a few

 

[canjeeroiyoshah]

There is no such thing as a good bidah. As the prophet (swt) said " "For every newly-invented matter is an innovation and every innovation is misguidance...", and our measuring stick for what is permissible and what's not is from the Sunnah and then from the companions. So ask yourself was this practiced during the time of the Sahaba and you should have you answer as they were the best of men.

And Allah says in Surah Maaida "This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Even something as small as the tusbax is a bidah as the Prophet used to use his hands to read his adkhar. Read below:

The Sahaba’s Opinion Concerning Bid’ah

Amr ibn Yahya narrated his father told him, "We used to sit at Abdullah Ibn Masood’s house before Fajr prayer. If he exited we would follow him to the musjid. Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari then came to us and asked us, ‘Did Abu Abur-Rahman (Abdullah Ibn Masood) come out yet?’ We said, ‘No’, so he sat with us till he emerged. We all stood up when he exited. He (Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari) said, ‘O Abu Adur-Rahman, I just saw something which I did not recognize, and I did not see, all thanks to Allah, but good.’ He (Ibn Masood) said, ‘What is it?’ He (Abu Musa) said, ‘If you live you will see it. I saw in the musjid people sitting in circles waiting for the prayer. In each circle there is a leader, and they have stones in their hands. He (the leader) would say, ‘Say Takbir (Allahu Akbar) 100 times’, so they say Takbir 100 times. He (the leader) would then say, ‘Say Tahil (La Ilaha Illa Allah) 100 times’, so they say Tahil 100 times. He (the leader) would then say, ‘Say Tasbih (Subhana Allah) 100 times’, so they say Tasbih 100 times. Ibn Masood said, ‘Did you not order them to count their evil deeds, and guarantee them that none of their good deeds will be lost?’ Then he and us left till we reached one of the circles. Then he (Ibn Masood) stood next to the circle and said, ‘What are you doing?’ They said, ‘O Abu Abdur-Rahamn, (these are) stones that we count our Takbir, Tahil, tasbih, and Tah’mid (Alhumdu’lillah).’ Ibn Masood said, ‘Count your evil deeds, for I guarantee that none of your good deeds will be lost. What is the matter with you, O nation of Muhammad? How soon you come to your destruction! The companions (of Muhammad) are still many, these are his clothes still not worn out and his cookware did not break yet. By whom my soul is in His Hands, you are either following a religion better than Muhammad’s or followers of a way of evil.’ They said, ‘By Allah, O Abu Abdur-Rahman, we sought only what is good.’ Ibn Masood said, ‘Many people seek good, but they do not reach it. The Messenger told us some people who read the Qur’an will not have the Qur’an leave their throats (to their hearts). By Allah I do not know if most of you are from them.’ Then he left them. Amr Ibn Salamah said, ‘We saw most of those people fighting against us, in the battle of Nahrawan with the Khawarij.’" (Tirmidhi)

So imagine celebrating the Prophet's birthday? Which is even worse since you're imitating the kufar as the Christians do the same thing with Christmas.

If you guys have free time look into this website: http://www.bidah.com/. Very beneficial.

 

[canjeeroiyoshah]

I have to double post this as people might not read my initial post. Please read regarding using tusbax like things to read adhkar in this case it was little stones.

‘What are you doing?’ They said, ‘O Abu Abdur-Rahamn, (these are) stones that we count our Takbir, Tahil, tasbih, and Tah’mid (Alhumdu’lillah).’ Ibn Masood said, ‘Count your evil deeds, for I guarantee that none of your good deeds will be lost. What is the matter with you, O nation of Muhammad? How soon you come to your destruction! The companions (of Muhammad) are still many, these are his clothes still not worn out and his cookware did not break yet. By whom my soul is in His Hands, you are either following a religion better than Muhammad’s or followers of a way of evil.’ They said, ‘By Allah, O Abu Abdur-Rahman, we sought only what is good.’ Ibn Masood said, ‘Many people seek good, but they do not reach it. The Messenger told us some people who read the Qur’an will not have the Qur’an leave their throats (to their hearts). By Allah I do not know if most of you are from them.’ Then he left them. Amr Ibn Salamah said, ‘We saw most of those people fighting against us, in the battle of Nahrawan with the Khawarij.’" (Tirmidhi)

 

[Zuleikha]

Kan yar ee @Zayd waa Xeertii timoweynta ileen judging from his avater pic lol.

 

[madamelioness]

How are the Sufis who celebrate the Prophet's birthday any different than the Christians who celebrate Jesus' birth?

I have nothing against Sufis but some of their practices are innovation and they fall into the extreme.

 

[canjeeroiyoshah]

How are the Sufis who celebrate the Prophet's birthday any different than the Christians who celebrate Jesus' birth?

I have nothing against Sufis but some of their practices are innovation and they fall into the extreme.

Preach.

 

[John Michael]

somalis have always celebrated mawlid save for the last 25 years.

 

[canjeeroiyoshah]

somalis have always celebrated mawlid save for the last 25 years.

Somalis have been killing each other for the last 25 years. See what I did there?

 

[John Michael]

Somalis have been killing each other for the last 25 years. See what I did there?

I think you misunderstood me. I meant that we've always celebrated mawlid up until several foreign religious movements spread.

 

[canjeeroiyoshah]

I think you misunderstood me. I meant that we've always celebrated mawlid up until several foreign religious movements spread.

I understood you perfectly I just don't like how you said it so casually. People might get the wrong idea.

 

[Shamis]

Isn't Taraawiix a good bidca?