Muslim TikTok Switching Up On The Anfac Case As The Story Develops.

[_Yusuf_]

The Believe The “Victim” mentality has been throughly expelled from my conscious. I will now remain skeptical when hearing cases like these in the future.

 

[Duubpon]

Can't blame them if they're intentions are normal.

It just means that they're in the dark like most people when it comes to this matter.

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

I was the first person to say she was lying and people called me a sexist. Im not gone name drop but you know who you are

 

[Angelina]

What proof is there that this is a lie? I find it very interesting that men will believe straight away it’s a lie without providing any concrete proof it’s fake or lie.

I don’t know if this is true or false, but not one man has shown sufficient proof this didn’t happen.

Everyone with an atoms worth of common sense knows that actual criminals and r**** always deny allegations and besmirch the rep of their victims. Therefore unless there is someone close to the case and is reputable shows sufficient proof and update that this is fake, I fail to see how anyone can believe this is false of the bat. It’s very easy for someone from the accusers camp to circulate that this is fake and tbh, they can easily get away with it since we have a lot of men in our community with a victim complex and believe that any female victim that dares to come forward is shaming the Somali name.

 

[trf]

There’s no proof that it’s fake. Men just want to silence her. Also this nigga and his fat nose bothers me

 

[Angelina]

There’s no proof that it’s fake. Men just want to silence her. Also this nigga and his fat nose bothers me

Silencing someone or people about a r-word case with no sufficient proof is the literally r-word culture and online I’m seeing a lot of Somali men engaging in this but would be the first to say they’re disgusted by such heinous acts yet will be the first in line to claim a victim is a liar without a shred of evidence. This is why women don’t come forward. Traditionally, r-worded women would be deemed unmarriagable and that’s another way they ensured women’s silence but now a new tactic is to say they’re all liars.

R-word culture is prevalent world wide, we are lying to ourselves if we claim there isn’t such a cultural cancer brewing more so that has unfortunately always existed.

 

[trf]

Silencing someone or people about a r-word case with no sufficient proof is the literally r-word culture and online I’m seeing a lot of Somali men engaging in this but would be the first to say they’re disgusted by such heinous acts but will be the first in line to claim something is fake without a shred of evidence.

R-word culture is prevalent world wide, we are lying to ourselves if we claim there isn’t such a cultural cancer brewing more so that has unfortunately always existed.

Its disgusting. But this guy isn’t Somali.

I fear for young somali girls back home due to the rise in gender wars on fob social media. All I see are attacks towards somali girls or constant arguing and insulting one another in their tiktok lives. Not surprising that these things are translating into real life there

 

[Angelina]

Its disgusting. But this guy isn’t Somali.

I fear for young somali girls back home due to the rise in gender wars on fob social media. All I see are attacks towards somali girls or constant arguing and insulting one another in their tiktok lives. Not surprising that these things are translating into real life there

Most of the men saying that the case isn’t real are Somali men. That is why he is saying this and that is the information he’s been fed.

At the end of the day, I don’t know what’s real and what isn’t. I simply ask that people come with facts before dismissing victims. Could this be a hoax? Who knows, but I do know for certain that in nearly every r-word cases there have always been a bunch of men claiming that a woman is lying. You will fail to find a case in which a female victim isn’t accused of making it up.

As for ‘gender wars’ there is no gender war back home since women there don’t have the social backing of power for it to be fair fight, hence it can never be classed as a ‘war’. Men are hardly ever killed or r-worded by women and that’s the case world wide, not just Somalia so I oppose the idea of saying this is just a Somali issue but deep misogyny is a part and parcel of very traditional and poor societies which we are one of

 

[Lightshow]

Most of the men saying that the case isn’t real are Somali men. That is why he is saying this and that is the information he’s been fed.

At the end of the day, I don’t know what’s real and what isn’t. I simply ask that people come with facts before dismissing victims. Could this be a hoax? Who knows, but I do know for certain that in nearly every r-word cases there have always been a bunch of men claiming that a woman is lying. You will fail to find a case in which a female victim isn’t accused of making it up.

As for ‘gender wars’ there is no gender war back home since women there don’t have the social backing of power for it to be fair fight, hence it can never be classed as a ‘war’. Men are hardly ever killed or r-worded by women and that’s the case world wide, not just Somalia so I oppose the idea of saying this is just a Somali issue but deep misogyny is a part and parcel of very traditional and poor societies which we are one of

While it's entirely fair to request facts before dismissing any allegation, it's important to avoid making generalised assumptions about specific groups like Somali men. Instead, let’s examine what the data actually says:


According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), Global Study on Homicide 2018:

• In 2017, an estimated 87,000 women were intentionally killed globally. Of those, 50,000 (58%) were killed by intimate partners or family members. That’s approximately 137 women every day murdered by someone they knew and likely trusted (UNODC, p.10).
• Furthermore, 30,000 women (34%) were killed specifically by intimate partners, making it a leading cause of homicide for women worldwide (UNODC, p.10).
• The highest risk of intimate partner/family-related homicide was in Africa, with a rate of 3.1 per 100,000 female population, followed by the Americas (1.6), Oceania (1.3), Asia (0.9), and Europe (0.7) (UNODC, p.10–11).

However, it is equally important to put this into perspective with male homicide statistics:

• Globally, men make up around 80% of total homicide victims, while women represent about 20% (UNODC, p.18).
• Most men are killed by strangers, typically in contexts related to crime, gangs, or violence in public settings.
• In contrast, women are far more likely to be killed in the home, by someone they know — a partner or family member (UNODC, p.3, p.9).

This contrast is essential. While men die more frequently from homicide overall, women bear the greatest burden of lethal violence in the domestic sphere. Specifically, 64% of all victims of intimate partner/family-related homicides are female, and when it comes to killings by intimate partners alone, 82% of victims are women (UNODC, p.11, p.18–19).


So rather than targeting Somali men or any other group, it’s more constructive to recognize that intimate partner violence is a global, systemic issue rooted in cultural norms, patriarchy, and gender inequality — factors that exist in all societies, whether developed or developing.


The discussion should focus on how to support victims, address root causes, and change harmful norms — not on shifting blame without evidence. This isn’t a Somali issue, nor simply a “gender war” — it’s a global human rights issue affecting women across cultures and continents.

 

[Lightshow]

While it's entirely fair to request facts before dismissing any allegation, it's important to avoid making generalised assumptions about specific groups like Somali men. Instead, let’s examine what the data actually says:


According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), Global Study on Homicide 2018:

• In 2017, an estimated 87,000 women were intentionally killed globally. Of those, 50,000 (58%) were killed by intimate partners or family members. That’s approximately 137 women every day murdered by someone they knew and likely trusted (UNODC, p.10).
• Furthermore, 30,000 women (34%) were killed specifically by intimate partners, making it a leading cause of homicide for women worldwide (UNODC, p.10).
• The highest risk of intimate partner/family-related homicide was in Africa, with a rate of 3.1 per 100,000 female population, followed by the Americas (1.6), Oceania (1.3), Asia (0.9), and Europe (0.7) (UNODC, p.10–11).

However, it is equally important to put this into perspective with male homicide statistics:

• Globally, men make up around 80% of total homicide victims, while women represent about 20% (UNODC, p.18).
• Most men are killed by strangers, typically in contexts related to crime, gangs, or violence in public settings.
• In contrast, women are far more likely to be killed in the home, by someone they know — a partner or family member (UNODC, p.3, p.9).

This contrast is essential. While men die more frequently from homicide overall, women bear the greatest burden of lethal violence in the domestic sphere. Specifically, 64% of all victims of intimate partner/family-related homicides are female, and when it comes to killings by intimate partners alone, 82% of victims are women (UNODC, p.11, p.18–19).


So rather than targeting Somali men or any other group, it’s more constructive to recognize that intimate partner violence is a global, systemic issue rooted in cultural norms, patriarchy, and gender inequality — factors that exist in all societies, whether developed or developing.


The discussion should focus on how to support victims, address root causes, and change harmful norms — not on shifting blame without evidence. This isn’t a Somali issue, nor simply a “gender war” — it’s a global human rights issue affecting women across cultures and continents.

This was Chat gpt by the way

 

[Rayaale]

What proof is there that this is a lie? I find it very interesting that men will believe straight away it’s a lie without providing any concrete proof it’s fake or lie.

I don’t know if this is true or false, but not one man has shown sufficient proof this didn’t happen.

Everyone with an atoms worth of common sense knows that actual criminals and r**** always deny allegations and besmirch the rep of their victims. Therefore unless there is someone close to the case and is reputable shows sufficient proof and update that this is fake, I fail to see how anyone can believe this is false of the bat. It’s very easy for someone from the accusers camp to circulate that this is fake and tbh, they can easily get away with it since we have a lot of men in our community with a victim complex and believe that any female victim that dares to come forward is shaming the Somali name.

Another classic Angelina analysis

 

[Midas]

Its been like 3 days since people have been saying the story is fake and there's been no response from her or the kenya govt. I'm beginning to be somewhat convinced this was actually fake.

 

[Idilinaa]

Honestly, I agree with a tweet I came across:

"Whether Anfac's story is real or not, the reaction people had should always be the same. Don’t let anyone gaslight you into thinking it’s wrong to defend victims of sexual violence."


To me, this situation highlighted something important, it sent a clear message that Somali society does not tolerate or excuse such horrific acts. That’s the response we should always have, regardless of whether a specific case turns out to be true or not. However, I also recognize the concerns about misinformation. False stories can create skepticism that harms real victims, so while we should always stand with survivors, we must also ensure we are not fueling reactionary outrage without facts.


At the same time, social media is built to amplify outrage, whether justified or not. Viral stories come and go, and while social media can raise awareness, it’s not a substitute for real-world change. Awareness alone doesn’t fix broken systems, what truly makes a difference is grassroots efforts, legal reform, and community-driven initiatives that provide real support for survivors.


That said, I also understand why people use social media to push for action, especially when institutions fail to act. Sometimes, public pressure is necessary to ensure justice. The key is striking a balance, protecting victims' dignity while making sure their voices are heard.


Unfortunately, in today’s culture, many prioritize attention and validation over real action. Social media can be a powerful tool, but it should never be about clout, it should be about meaningful change.

 

[Taintedlove]

Honestly, I agree with a tweet I came across:

"Whether Anfac's story is real or not, the reaction people had should always be the same. Don’t let anyone gaslight you into thinking it’s wrong to defend victims of sexual violence."


To me, this situation highlighted something important, it sent a clear message that Somali society does not tolerate or excuse such horrific acts. That’s the response we should always have, regardless of whether a specific case turns out to be true or not. However, I also recognize the concerns about misinformation. False stories can create skepticism that harms real victims, so while we should always stand with survivors, we must also ensure we are not fueling reactionary outrage without facts.


At the same time, social media is built to amplify outrage, whether justified or not. Viral stories come and go, and while social media can raise awareness, it’s not a substitute for real-world change. Awareness alone doesn’t fix broken systems, what truly makes a difference is grassroots efforts, legal reform, and community-driven initiatives that provide real support for survivors.


That said, I also understand why people use social media to push for action, especially when institutions fail to act. Sometimes, public pressure is necessary to ensure justice. The key is striking a balance, protecting victims' dignity while making sure their voices are heard.


Unfortunately, in today’s culture, many prioritize attention and validation over real action. Social media can be a powerful tool, but it should never be about clout, it should be about meaningful change.

Tbh we should shame tiktokers who use these tragedies to divide

 

[Idilinaa]

Tbh we should shame tiktokers who use these tragedies to divide

Exactly. Weaponizing these tragedies to push an agenda , whether it's demonizing all men, all women, or any group, completely misses the point. The goal should be justice, protection, and real solutions, not division.

You want people to stand with victims, to support change, not to push them away by turning everything into a gender war.

And honestly, this obsession with ‘reputation management’ in these discussions is also frustrating. Some people care more about optics than actually addressing the issue. If protecting an image comes at the cost of enabling abuse or silencing victims, then that’s a much bigger problem.

 

[Taintedlove]

Exactly. Weaponizing these tragedies to push an agenda , whether it's demonizing all men, all women, or any group, completely misses the point. The goal should be justice, protection, and real solutions, not division.

You want people to stand with victims, to support change, not to push them away by turning everything into a gender war.

And honestly, this obsession with ‘reputation management’ in these discussions is also frustrating. Some people care more about optics than actually addressing the issue. If protecting an image comes at the cost of enabling abuse or silencing victims, then that’s a much bigger problem.

Exactly! One of the sanest takes in this thread.