N&N Political Party: Following a foreign agenda?

[Medulla]

I'm using my brain and by assessing their behaviour I can form a conclusion free of emotions but based on pure logic.

sxb do you know them IRL how can you do that if you have some proof i'd like to see it too

 

[Abdisamad]

sxb do you know them IRL how can you do that if you have some proof i'd like to see it too

You can asses them by the way they are leading the country and the decisions they are making.. Anyway I've already posted prove that backs up some of my claims above.

 

[Medulla]

@embarassing
If you must have evidence here you go..

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I don't want to put words in your mouth but what does this agreement prove in your eyes? That they are following foreign orders to not unify the country? What is so shady about this deal that you are not a fan of sxb

 

[Abdisamad]

I don't want to put words in your mouth but what does this agreement prove in your eyes? That they are following foreign orders to not unify the country? What is so shady about this deal that you are not a fan of sxb

Foreigners shouldn't manage vital infrastructure.

 

[embarassing]

I'm using my brain and by assessing their behaviour I can form a conclusion free of emotions but based on pure logic.

So basically you were inspired to believe these things with 0 evidence?

@embarassing
If you must have evidence here you go..

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Screenshots of wiki links?

Goodnight brother.

 

[Medulla]

Foreigners shouldn't manage vital infrastructure.

If they were the most suitable candidates what's the issue? The group has experience and the agreement isn't forever it allows us to get all the training we need, turkey gets own benefits so do we

 

[Abdisamad]

If they were the most suitable candidates what's the issue? The group has experience and the agreement isn't forever it allows us to get all the training we need, turkey gets own benefits so do we

How do you know they were the most qualified group and how do you know if the deal is good? Have you seen the details on the contract?

 

[Abdisamad]

So basically you were inspired to believe these things with 0 evidence?

Screenshots of wiki links?

Goodnight brother.

I don't speak Turkish but here is a video evidence.

 

[Medulla]

How do you know they were the most qualified group and how do you know if the deal is good? Have you seen the details on the contract?

I could ask you the same thing how do you know it's bad? What are you basing your views on if you haven't seen anything either . What's the more logical view here the deal is fine or the deal is bad I listed the benefits I've yet to here any bad points.

Other than foreigners shouldn't control it which is nothing more than xenophobia having them brought a extra level of security .You know if it was run by somalis it would get infiltrated and bombed every other week

 

[Abdisamad]

I believe you are but I dont believe OP is.

Idk why youre directing that energy towards me.

Asking for evidence is the bare minimum im not surprised it cant be provided lol, anyway ive attracted enough attentions to these creepy rant threads.

Goodnight aboowe lol

The problem is we Somalis are not good at expressing our differences without getting personal..We cannot solve anything or come to an agreement if all we are doing is hurling insults at each other left and right.. I believe we all want what is best for our country and people but we just don't agree on how to reach that goal. So when we disagree we become emotional and start insultibg and dehumanizing each other.
We should stop having this I'm right you are wrong attitude and listen to eachothers grievances. Only then will we come to truly understand each other.
If you must hear my opinion, I want to have a federal Somalia where the government is not forcing federal states to become puppets of a central government in muqdisho. I wish for a Somalia where the military forces are all inclusive of all somali qabiils, I wish for a Somalia free of amisom and free of al shabab.. A Somalia where education and development is distributed equally to all states.. But I don't see this happening as it is now with the n&n administration. And this is why I may support an independent Puntland in the coming future if things don't change. I think most Puntlanders feel this way.

 

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@Abdisamad3

Perfectly stated AbdiSamad.

N&N wants to bully, bribe or use force to dictate to us instead of following the plan that we all agreed on.

It's very "my way or the highway" but instead of "highway", it's violence.

 

[Abdisamad]

I could ask you the same thing how do you know it's bad? What are you basing your views on if you haven't seen anything either . What's the more logical view here the deal is fine or the deal is bad I listed the benefits I've yet to here any bad points.

Other than foreigners shouldn't control it which is nothing more than xenophobia having them brought a extra level of security .You know if it was run by somalis it would get infiltrated and bombed every other week

As a general rule.

You cannot answer a question with another question sxb....you said the benefits are training and security but can you provide any prove to these claims? How is Somalia as a collective federal state benefiting from this deal? The burden is on your shoulders to provide valid and reliable info on these claims sxb.

 

[Abdisamad]

@Abdisamad3

Perfectly stated AbdiSamad.

N&N wants to bully, bribe or use force to dictate to us instead of following the plan that we all agreed on.

It's very "my way or the highway" but instead of "highway", it's violence.

If the countries leadership cannot be questioned then we'll end up back to square one, which is a dictatorial state and maybe another round of civil war.

 

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Long live Farmaajo iyo khayre.

 

[Abdisamad]

Long live Farmaajo iyo khayre.

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What makes you think this is fkd? Wallahi I support farmaajo and khayre. I'm not the one collecting sins by posting some baseless accusations.

 

[Abdisamad]

What makes you think this is fkd? Wallahi I support farmaajo and khayre. I'm not the one collecting sins by posting some baseless accusations.

What makes you think it's a sin to question and disagree with khayre and Farmaajo

 

[Céleste]

What makes you think it's a sin to question and disagree with khayre and Farmaajo

Open your eyes.

1. Farmaajo raped..., no proof at all
2. Farmaajo is a foreign stooge, no proof
3. Farmaajo wants to destroy somalia/puntland, no proof
4. Farmaajo wants to assassinate..., no proof

If you opened your eyes for a min, you would see the reality. Questioning is different from blatantly accusing people of doing things they havent done without proof.

Farmaajo is my president therefore he has my respect now. I dont belive he is the best but iA we will have a great leader.

 

[Medulla]

How is Somalia as a collective federal state benefiting from this deal? The burden is on your shoulders to provide valid and reliable info on these claims sxb.

You are sly LMFAO I can't argue that and you know it. It's a port not a nationwide policy on education. The benefits are limited to xamar by default it doesn't matter if other places benefit directly. It's just the start of better things to come

Wallahi you really going to make me sift through documents or what cause I will are you saying there are no benefit to this whole deal at all?

The most obvious benefit is the investment we own 55% whilst still having workers on the ground and since their investment the equipment we need to manage the port. Prior to their involvement it was in bad shape and was generally trash hence the increase of revenue we see once they took over management. You are being very vague on purpose I don't know what you are trying to get me to say LMFAO

Is this video not good enough?

 

[Abdisamad]

Open your eyes.

1. Farmaajo raped..., no proof at all
2. Farmaajo is a foreign stooge, no proof
3. Farmaajo wants to destroy somalia/puntland, no proof
4. Farmaajo wants to assassinate..., no proof

If you opened your eyes for a min, you would see the reality. Questioning is different from blatantly accusing people of doing things they havent done without proof.

Farmaajo is my president therefore he has my respect now. I dont belive he is the best but iA we will have a great leader.

Well I never claimed he was a rapist.
Farmajo administration has so far destroyed South west state and galmudug and they are now waging war on Jubaland, his administration invited Ethiopian soldiers into Somali soil signed off the few assets of the Somali nation under his control to foreign companies. Ignored to remove al shabab.
So yes we have every right to question his administration.