Ogaden Somali President.

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Now im not being qabilist here

But if an ogaden president were to take charge of somalia, Im certain somalia would propel out of its miserable states its in. And im talking about all of somaliweyn. Just here me out.
Ogaden Leader would have no sort status quo to lean back on, i.e. no clan to lean back on for protection in somalia. They would solve the states issue, tie them back together and split them all accordingly so they never become a threat to the state again. They will create a good army, and most importantly they will focus on development, developing Somalia in every sector, focusing on public works and the welfare of the people. Then industrialize the country and make it very rich. This will be done evenly across somalia, there wont be a concept of qabil-states, because lets be honest thats what their purpose is. 4.5 would be abolished and the legislators would be sent home. The legislative branch would be completely reformed and fixed with a proper council based on merit. We would build our governmental instituions. A proper government would easily be able to tackle the issue of somaliland, the issue of its so simple it can be turned into some miniscule movement in the hidden away in the armpits of London. Now when I say this I'm not criticizing the northerners, in fact im totally against that you always see me saying dont insult them or do any of that because at the end of the day its just a rebel group funded by ethiopia and foreign agents to divide our country. A proper government would plant a leader there and neutralize the idea of snm from the root. The state would then be promptly split, including khatuumo and awdal. Point is that states would be severly weakened. Qabilism would also be completely banned and a jailable offense.

This is what should be done to the regions, with minor adjustments of course.
Now the return of the rest of the regions like nfd and ogaden is a whole separate thing that would also be done. But you must first build up your institutions at home. Like foreign intelligence, internal intelligence all the stuff that a normal government has that we lack.

Al shabaab is such a easy thing that can be tackled, its only so hard because of this gov. Just look at what el salavador did to their gangs. Thats what need to be done with kebab.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

I mean they dont have to be ogaden either wallahi Would support any somali who could form a proper goverment and have proper leadership and command over this country. Some thing we have been lacking since siad barre.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I mean they dont have to be ogaden either wallahi Would support any somali who could form a proper goverment and have proper leadership and command over this country. Some thing we have been lacking since siad barre.

Ogadens finally surrender to Sade @TekNiKo

This guy like me admit even if hurts our clan pride, noone has come close to even wiping the feet of siyad barre post 91, the naysayers like even puntitequeen will be shut down inside PL, and said well show us the brilliant leader who was even semi close to siyad, it's easy to criticise siyad but it's even sadder when you got nothing to compete against him after he left, which gives him full vindication as the last great leader in Somalia and the rest afterwards even tho their loud, angry, bitter against siyad even they know they go silent when measuring leaders post 91 to siyad

I respect hawiye for that reason, ninkasi magacisa ma soo hadal qaadan, they know deep down nothing comes close to even match him let alone better him. When u criticise a former leader u also need to show someone else comes who is greater not worse.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@CABDULWALI XASAN.

Not sure if Ogadens as leader will provide any real change to the status quo(gunnimo), heck I don't think any leader can change the reality facing the nation a cultural decay where the values are killing, lying, cheating, trickery, hypocrisy, corruption, fraud, love of conflict. This is what ppl practise the most daily, religion is secondary lol. A great legacy left behind by Aideed who opened up this new chapter.

I mean those type of values inside ppl hearts at every level of society not just leadership so it just means who leads them is going to have an extraordinary time trying to lead it and also make it productive with such unproductive cultural values. A cultural revolution is needed not elimination of clan, to gutt out these shaydhan values inside their hearts.


Those values are very unproductive and it doesn't matter if God sends someone from the sky as the islamist hope, or if humans select someone(which even islamist humans select their leader) noone is coming from the sky or God so the issue of God or religion is irrelevant in politics.

How can u work or lead a society who hold the most unproductive values? you give alot of promises but u don't address how u won't be just some leader who says f*ck it dadkani bisayl ma aha or it's impossible working environment and just loot and take care of your personal and family and clan interest? this is the root of issue not tribalism, tribalism is a surviving mechanism In a nation of venomous snakes and unproductive values.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@CABDULWALI XASAN.

This is the true Somalia even the most religious or academic person forget the average person or ignorant one, even the best among them is like this.

He says all sorts of wonderful ideas and somalinimo and Islam but in his heart is a disease he thinks he can fool u or play u and he winks to his clan after u leave the meeting like this.

Then when the naive somali thought he met a national soul mate, he runs back to clan and tribe protection which is the real survival mechanism In such a vicious culture. Then this just continues for 30,50, 100 years and noone says warheedhe dhaqan liito baan gabna not tribalism is bad it's our values qadiyadeena ayaa liito.

 

[DR OSMAN]

How am I qabili notice the craziness of these hidden or crypto qabilis using the tactics i stated above, I even spit on my own ina adeers like @Libaax-Joore Wallahi 8 odey ayaan isku imaana, that's literally 8 generations, that's 200 years maximum.

What does the average Somalis dude they listen to some idiot playing a show for them but in his heart is all the sickness I mentioned above and leading to the status quo extending into centuries before displacement Era happens thru oromo gradually over time, somalis think everything is automatic and instant they don't know things are gradual and incremental over time while u decline each day oromo increases daily, over time say 100 to 200 years this has serious implications to anyone wax garanayo.

Malin Iyo malin ka dhambayso somali waa si liidanysa(declining) add that up over 100 or 200 year time period it's called a total decline effect oo is arursaday, while others in the world are growing positivity over time this also adds up over long duration of time. The scenario is simple for anyone wax garan kara, the evolutionary principle is real everything is incremental and gradual over a duration of time not automatic and instant as most ppl assume.

 

[Sup]

Now im not being qabilist here

But if an ogaden president were to take charge of somalia, Im certain somalia would propel out of its miserable states its in. And im talking about all of somaliweyn. Just here me out.
Ogaden Leader would have no sort status quo to lean back on, i.e. no clan to lean back on for protection in somalia. They would solve the states issue, tie them back together and split them all accordingly so they never become a threat to the state again. They will create a good army, and most importantly they will focus on development, developing Somalia in every sector, focusing on public works and the welfare of the people. Then industrialize the country and make it very rich. This will be done evenly across somalia, there wont be a concept of qabil-states, because lets be honest thats what their purpose is. 4.5 would be abolished and the legislators would be sent home. The legislative branch would be completely reformed and fixed with a proper council based on merit. We would build our governmental instituions. A proper government would easily be able to tackle the issue of somaliland, the issue of its so simple it can be turned into some miniscule movement in the hidden away in the armpits of London. Now when I say this I'm not criticizing the northerners, in fact im totally against that you always see me saying dont insult them or do any of that because at the end of the day its just a rebel group funded by ethiopia and foreign agents to divide our country. A proper government would plant a leader there and neutralize the idea of snm from the root. The state would then be promptly split, including khatuumo and awdal. Point is that states would be severly weakened. Qabilism would also be completely banned and a jailable offense.
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This is what should be done to the regions, with minor adjustments of course.
Now the return of the rest of the regions like nfd and ogaden is a whole separate thing that would also be done. But you must first build up your institutions at home. Like foreign intelligence, internal intelligence all the stuff that a normal government has that we lack.

Al shabaab is such an easy thing that can be tackled, its only so hard because of this gov. Just look at what el salavador did to their gangs. Thats what need to be done with kebab.

I couldn’t care less what clan they’re from. What I care about is progress and good governance, and making sure the country moves forward. If they happen to be Hawyie, OG, MJ, Isaaq, Rewin or one of the minority clans. As long as the job gets done have at it, I think I speak for most Somalis when I say their clan backgrounds is irrelevant, their action however is.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@TekNiKo

This is Somalis all.meeting talking about that evil, vicious dictator siyad barre the dhigayacab the blood sucking communist infidel.

Puntitequeen is all loud and rowdy also untill one man stands up and say OK siyad is bad but what do u call post 91 leaders till today, then everyone sits back, contemplates, and are like damn siyad might be bad but these guys r helll post 91 who criticise him.

The meeting ends in kala yac

While I am rushing puntitequeen out of those empty meetings about hate siyad, somalis say nin kasto aad la hadlaysid kabahisa ayaa la eega. And she knows their shoes post 91 till 2024.

Then Puntitequeen quickly flees after seeing somalis after siyad are far worse then siyad ever was and just like everyone else she feels they all got a headstart the smart ones as we didn't need to go thru refugee camps we went from China to OZ in the late 80s, her only regret is we got a head start who fled before her.

Noone was fleeing under Siyad untill 88 when rebel groups raised the tempo and intensity due to menguistu. Everyone sure did flee after 91 especially after usc, haji engris and all the hawiyenimo heck even hawiye fled. How can u be a govt when ppl are fleeing you, hawiye need to answer that even your own hawiye r fleeing u.

 

[Farsi]

Those values are very unproductive and it doesn't matter if God sends someone from the sky as the islamist hope, or if humans select someone(which even islamist humans select their leader) noone is coming from the sky or God so the issue of God or religion is irrelevant in politics.

Are you advocating for secularism?

 

[berberaboy66]

I’ll be damned if there’s a longfoot president before me. There’s a queue mate

 

[DR OSMAN]

Are you advocating for secularism?

I'm advocating for realism.

Putting a hand on a quran, begging ppl to believe u, like wtf how can u ask for ppl to accept you based on a belief, belief isn't something humans can examine or prove as a fact, and also belief is reserved.for God, humans waxaa ka dhaxayso indho iyo maskax that's it, not belief iyo empty words, your faith or anyone faith is your personal issue between God, noone is going inside your grave with you or sitting next to you before judgement day either.

I want actions more then words or belief to be the guiding principle and values of all Somalis down to the lowest among us to the highest and that requires a huge shift in cultural values.

Somalis know I'm like this around ppl faith its not my business nor can I prove if ur faith is indeed a fact or not, its not my business that's your own affairs in the afterlife all I know is actions and daleel.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Now im not being qabilist here

But if an ogaden president were to take charge of somalia, Im certain somalia would propel out of its miserable states its in. And im talking about all of somaliweyn. Just here me out.
Ogaden Leader would have no sort status quo to lean back on, i.e. no clan to lean back on for protection in somalia. They would solve the states issue, tie them back together and split them all accordingly so they never become a threat to the state again. They will create a good army, and most importantly they will focus on development, developing Somalia in every sector, focusing on public works and the welfare of the people. Then industrialize the country and make it very rich. This will be done evenly across somalia, there wont be a concept of qabil-states, because lets be honest thats what their purpose is. 4.5 would be abolished and the legislators would be sent home. The legislative branch would be completely reformed and fixed with a proper council based on merit. We would build our governmental instituions. A proper government would easily be able to tackle the issue of somaliland, the issue of its so simple it can be turned into some miniscule movement in the hidden away in the armpits of London. Now when I say this I'm not criticizing the northerners, in fact im totally against that you always see me saying dont insult them or do any of that because at the end of the day its just a rebel group funded by ethiopia and foreign agents to divide our country. A proper government would plant a leader there and neutralize the idea of snm from the root. The state would then be promptly split, including khatuumo and awdal. Point is that states would be severly weakened. Qabilism would also be completely banned and a jailable offense.
View attachment 347412

This is what should be done to the regions, with minor adjustments of course.
Now the return of the rest of the regions like nfd and ogaden is a whole separate thing that would also be done. But you must first build up your institutions at home. Like foreign intelligence, internal intelligence all the stuff that a normal government has that we lack.

Al shabaab is such a easy thing that can be tackled, its only so hard because of this gov. Just look at what el salavador did to their gangs. Thats what need to be done with kebab.

No hard feeling but they will turn as to Ethiopian.

 

[TekNiKo]

Hell No! They will turn our nation into Itoobiya

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Hell No! They will turn our nation into Itoobiya

Says who?

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

@TekNiKo

This is Somalis all.meeting talking about that evil, vicious dictator siyad barre the dhigayacab the blood sucking communist infidel.

Puntitequeen is all loud and rowdy also untill one man stands up and say OK siyad is bad but what do u call post 91 leaders till today, then everyone sits back, contemplates, and are like damn siyad might be bad but these guys r helll post 91 who criticise him.

The meeting ends in kala yac

While I am rushing puntitequeen out of those empty meetings about hate siyad, somalis say nin kasto aad la hadlaysid kabahisa ayaa la eega. And she knows their shoes post 91 till 2024.

Then Puntitequeen quickly flees after seeing somalis after siyad are far worse then siyad ever was and just like everyone else she feels they all got a headstart the smart ones as we didn't need to go thru refugee camps we went from China to OZ in the late 80s, her only regret is we got a head start who fled before her.

Noone was fleeing under Siyad untill 88 when rebel groups raised the tempo and intensity due to menguistu. Everyone sure did flee after 91 especially after usc, haji engris and all the hawiyenimo heck even hawiye fled. How can u be a govt when ppl are fleeing you, hawiye need to answer that even your own hawiye r fleeing u.

All those rebels group are foreign funded,
You know osman I did a quick read over your posts you do bring up some fair points but you just seem to be a little broken. You have completely given up Its just rejection.
hawiye Darood, does it matter our state is failed and thats what we will be known as...

Also dont worry about puntite queens and her thoughts, most of the forum has learnt especially after omar incident that are opinions are worthless rambles. She has me on ignore Probably

 

[Garaad Awal]

Ah yes, Reer SL will give up its independence and rejoin Somalia because Somalians selected another Darood leader. Are you slow Walaal? On what planet will that ever happen

 

[TheLand]

Now im not being qabilist here

But if an ogaden president were to take charge of somalia, Im certain somalia would propel out of its miserable states its in. And im talking about all of somaliweyn. Just here me out.
Ogaden Leader would have no sort status quo to lean back on, i.e. no clan to lean back on for protection in somalia. They would solve the states issue, tie them back together and split them all accordingly so they never become a threat to the state again. They will create a good army, and most importantly they will focus on development, developing Somalia in every sector, focusing on public works and the welfare of the people. Then industrialize the country and make it very rich. This will be done evenly across somalia, there wont be a concept of qabil-states, because lets be honest thats what their purpose is. 4.5 would be abolished and the legislators would be sent home. The legislative branch would be completely reformed and fixed with a proper council based on merit. We would build our governmental instituions. A proper government would easily be able to tackle the issue of somaliland, the issue of its so simple it can be turned into some miniscule movement in the hidden away in the armpits of London. Now when I say this I'm not criticizing the northerners, in fact im totally against that you always see me saying dont insult them or do any of that because at the end of the day its just a rebel group funded by ethiopia and foreign agents to divide our country. A proper government would plant a leader there and neutralize the idea of snm from the root. The state would then be promptly split, including khatuumo and awdal. Point is that states would be severly weakened. Qabilism would also be completely banned and a jailable offense.
View attachment 347412

This is what should be done to the regions, with minor adjustments of course.
Now the return of the rest of the regions like nfd and ogaden is a whole separate thing that would also be done. But you must first build up your institutions at home. Like foreign intelligence, internal intelligence all the stuff that a normal government has that we lack.

Al shabaab is such an easy thing that can be tackled, it’s only so hard because of this gov. Just look at what el salavador did to their gangs. Thats what need to be done with kebab.

When was the last time an OG ran for president and was a contender? Serious question.

 

[Abaq]

No hard feeling but they will turn as to Ethiopian.

Ironically you have stumbled upon a truism. I know my constituency well and one thing we don’t do is share. If Ogaden ever rule Somalia, they will dominate and won’t share just like DDS today. I’m not passing judgement about whether this is good or bad

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

When was the last time an OG ran for president and was a contender? Serious question.

I have no clue, og dosent even need to run. Just become a leader. Yup I already know your about to say Deni. Whats funny is you always hurl insults at Ahmed madobe not even like a critique of his policies just phyisical insults while hypocritically You have deni. A serious question is when is somalia going to get good leadership? I mean cagjar is a decent leader in terms of development but my god this guy is basically ethiopian the way he fans them. He makes sure to use BIRR in all caps and multiple times just to rub it in. Guy needs to repent quickly.

 

[TheLand]

Ironically you have stumbled upon a truism. I know my constituency well and one thing we don’t do is share. If Ogaden ever rule Somalia, they will dominate and won’t share just like DDS today. I’m not passing judgement about whether this is good or bad

You’ll be in good company then because that’s the exact dhaqan xumo of reer unuka leh and the folks from the Gedo