President Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke

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So somone posted on reddit "What if he was never assassinated". Some of these comments were taken from another post.

These comments make allegations that he was corrupt.

Is there any credence to these claims?

From what I've read theres no evidence suggesting he was corrupt.
 
The Governments of the 60s had a lot of good individuals like Abdirashid , Adde etc but overall was still very corrupt , The coup being widely popular for most somalis is a known fact . Pre kacaan government was similar to the one these days in terms of bribery + bootlickers . They sold out NFD and there was plenty of political qabil tensions
 

Devilsadvocate

Stay on that side.
I’ve noticed on social media, Somalis are too fixated on siad barre. They need to research about the SYL, the only two decent presidents we had was Aden Adde (AUN) and Abdirashid Ali Sharmake (AUN).
 
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So somone posted on reddit "What if he was never assassinated". Some of these comments were taken from another post.

These comments make allegations that he was corrupt.

Is there any credence to these claims?

From what I've read theres no evidence suggesting he was corrupt.
It wasn’t corrupt necessarily but the deal that the SYL made with the Italians and the UN was not fighting the trusteeship in exchange for jobs for their clansmembers.

You need to recognize how third world corruption differs from first world corruption- you don’t have people being handed bags of money like in the west in Africa but family members and friends asking a politician for jobs and help.
 

Ashraf

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The Governments of the 60s had a lot of good individuals like Abdirashid , Adde etc but overall was still very corrupt , The coup being widely popular for most somalis is a known fact . Pre kacaan government was similar to the one these days in terms of bribery + bootlickers . They sold out NFD and there was plenty of political qabil tensions
You can see a lot of similarities from the democratic government of 1960-69 to the one now. But the main difference is the government then wanted a strong military and it was the only sector of government free from corruption and nepotism. That’s what allowed siad to take over. Whereas today the military is purposefully kept incompetent to prevent a coup. Politicians learned from 69 and new to never make a competent SNA If they want to prolong their corruption without any accountability. Now we have politicians who use the state as a means of filling their own pockets. Harry Truman once said, “Show me a man who got rich through politics and I’ll show you a crook” We have an entire government full of crooks motivated to become MPS not out of nationalism, not to lift their country out of crippling poverty but to secure their own finances. Our government purposely attracts the worst of our society. If a competent cabinet were to ever come about, it would have a Herculean task due to the decades looting and neglect. I entered this forum optimistic and unable to comprehend the overwhelming pessimistic sentiment that thrived here. I now understand
 
You can see a lot of similarities from the democratic government of 1960-69 to the one now. But the main difference is the government then wanted a strong military and it was the only sector of government free from corruption and nepotism. That’s what allowed siad to take over. Whereas today the military is purposefully kept incompetent to prevent a coup. Politicians learned from 69 and new to never make a competent SNA If they want to prolong their corruption without any accountability. Now we have politicians who use the state as a means of filling their own pockets. Harry Truman once said, “Show me a man who got rich through politics and I’ll show you a crook” We have an entire government full of crooks motivated to become MPS not out of nationalism, not to lift their country out of crippling poverty but to secure their own finances. Our government purposely attracts the worst of our society. If a competent cabinet were to ever come about, it would have a Herculean task due to the decades looting and neglect. I entered this forum optimistic and unable to comprehend the overwhelming pessimistic sentiment that thrived here. I now understand
Case in point, see my thread about QQ mansion in Nairobi.
 
Kacaanists love to accuse others of being corrupt and inefficient, meanwhile, they haven't been able to create anything representing a government in their deegaan since 1991. In fact, when they invaded Kismaayo in the 90s along with Hawiye militias, they started a wave of terror, rape and robbery and of course, squatted on government land.
 
Kacaanists love to accuse others of being corrupt and inefficient, meanwhile, they haven't been able to create anything representing a government in their deegaan since 1991. In fact, when they invaded Kismaayo in the 90s along with Hawiye militias, they started a wave of terror, rape and robbery and of course, squatted on government land.
Even during the kacaan many of them lived off of looted government money and turned to alcoholism as a result. Case in point, Xoosh Kibray who used to be a cab driver before Afweyne gave him a monopoly on imports in Xamar and he became rich.
 
I don't even think the government pre kacaan was free from corruption and other issues. I just think it was far better than Kacaanka dulaysan. For example, no allegations of ethnic cleansing, no soldiers going around raping women, no wells poisoned, no civilians bombed etc.

Also, they were democratic.

Unlike that monstrous group who shamed Somalia and clung unto power illegally, for 21 years.
 

Ashraf

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I don't even think the government pre kacaan was free from corruption and other issues. I just think it was far better than Kacaanka dulaysan. For example, no allegations of ethnic cleansing, no soldiers going around raping women, no wells poisoned, no civilians bombed etc.

Also, they were democratic.

Unlike that monstrous group who shamed Somalia and clung unto power illegally, for 21 years.
Kacaan became terrible post 1977. The authoritarianism and war crimes started after siad fucked the Ogaden war up. It wasn’t all bad and people enjoyed his rule until then.
 
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