Puntland Deported Oromos

[DR OSMAN]

15:31 on-wards. Puntland has refugee from yemen, ethiopia, and internal displaced refugees from Somalia. I mean look at this nonsense no offence @Jiron but you have business community in puntland.

Our @PuntiteQueen isn't happy with too much non puntites in puntland unless their ready to die for puntland which I will respect them as fellow puntites but I doubt that will happen. We should register these people as soldiers of puntland so they can feel puntland inclusive. Qof walbo ku seexdo kuna soo kaco nabad waa inu ka qayb qaata nabad ilalintisa.

 

[DR OSMAN]

War 50 wiil ha keenan koonfur galbeed in each city of puntland, wa inay ka qayb qaatan ilalinta dhulka ay ku ganacsadan, they have economic interest and this requires they protect puntland like they would koonfur galbeed.

Oromo I am sorry but u r just walking invasion, we all know about oromo migrations from the past and we know u use your population as a 'weapon' on smaller population and your trying to do trojan horse by playing peaceful card and then u will invite all oromos to settle and claim more lands for oromia.

 

[Jiron]

no offense taking sxb, Puntland has always welcomed people and gave them refuge. I hope that hospitality lasts and that no one is turned away

 

[DR OSMAN]

no offense taking sxb, Puntland has always welcomed people and gave them refuge. I hope that hospitality lasts and that no one is turned away

Somalia is unfortunately a republic and I am monarchist, in a republic u r considered a citizen in all Somalia, unfortunately if we had a monarchy, u would be considered a guest of his highness and not a citizen. Either way u need to contribute South West boys into puntland army, u have huge stake there and u should be participating in protecting puntland

 

[DR OSMAN]

@486th President what are u thinking about. In a monarchy everyone is a guest of the king or queen even the government-police-courts-residents, you are either residents or citizens lakin the state itself is a 'marti' to the boqor and that includes everyone within the boqor jurisdiction. So they can still be resident/citizen lakin the 'state' falls under the 'king and his royal chambers the isimo' and the land and people are under the state so u all report to the monarch.

 

[486th President]

@486th President what are u thinking about. In a monarchy everyone is a guest of the king or queen even the government-police-courts-residents, you are either residents or citizens lakin the state itself is a 'marti' to the boqor and that includes everyone within the boqor jurisdiction. So they can still be resident/citizen lakin the 'state' falls under the 'king and his royal chambers the isimo' and the land and people are under the state so u all report to the monarch.

Nah monarchies aren’t it tbh especially for Puntland as well nah

 

[Misil]

Ditoore, how do you expect us to be in the PL army when we don't have much of a political stake in the state? Political representation comes first then we can talk about military matters and whatnot.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Ditoore, how do you expect us to be in the PL army when we don't have much of a political stake in the state? Political representation comes first then we can talk about military matters and whatnot.

I agree the status of puntites who are not natives is in 'limbo' and they live and work in PL and are considered officially citizens who even pay taxes lakin at a social and legal level their seen as foreigners, this is untenable in the long run.

Either si toos ah haloo sheego shisheeye baad tihin legally/socially and u should begin plans to relocatae them or treat them like natives and give them political representation and demand they participate in dying for puntland. I hate siyasad aan 'war cad' ahayn and is in some grey murky area.

If a rahanwayn boys are willing to die for puntland hade lagama xigo and he should enjoy totally full puntite status, but be prepared to contribute your fair share to puntland security and in return give them political representation at local and regional level and teach society these people are puntites by CHOICE, puntites dhalasho keliya ma noqon karto hadi aan aminsan nahay this republic idea or else boqortoyo aan iska noqono oo yaan been anigu iyo dadka loo sheegin

The legal status and social status of non native puntites is 'barakac' kkkk it means your 'displaced' marka native ama dhalasho ma tihid, your treated under 'displaced' status which means they expect you will go home once your able to do so security wise iyo siday ii muuqato dadkani meel ay u socodan uma jeedi, marka barakac statuskani wa in laga badela and give them 'muwadin' status iyo wixi laga rabo muwadinka iyaguna wa inay samayan especially register and die for puntland thru military, intelligence, and police service.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Balaayo it is possible that rahanwayn status changes from 'displaced' to 'muwadin' but I think it will take time, my sub sub clan was barakac 200 years ago from bari to nugaal and now we have full 'muwadin' status in nugaal but we contribute soldiers and defend puntland in history and today.

Lots of our boys are the first ones to run into the front line to defend puntland xitaa lacag la'an iyo mushaar la'an we will defend puntland with not even asking for reimbursements, adiguna marka waxasi ka muuqdo iyo calamadasi lee dahay, I am sure puntites will accept u as equal muwadin till then I am afraid they will assume 'displaced' ba tahay oo beri iskaga bixi doono marki dhulkina si ficnaado dhinaca amniga which I think may happen for displaced people who are in camps but it won't happen to people who are traders and have a stake in puntland.

U stand a better chance at gaining muwadin status then oromo though, you have dhalasho status in terms of somali citizen due to our republic system but your not a 'muwadin' status which basically means 'citizen' of puntland, your people are more like 'citizens of somalia while their temporary resident with displaced status in puntland' I haven't seen much discussion about puntland legal code for various people but I suspect it's based on somali federal constitution since we believe in somali republic but we sure act more like a boqortoyo

 

[Waaqmasho]

Doctor, RX will soon have peace in their regions, and go back. I don't understand why they'd want to stay in the desert regions.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Doctor, RX will soon have peace in their regions, and go back. I don't understand why they'd want to stay in the desert regions.

That so called desert region has a higher HDI then anywhere else in Somalia, we might be third world and still overly focused on rural economic activities, but we are building our locals up with an urban economy, qardho just began a technical institute that is going to have technical skills training at international standard level.

Tell me one product u produce in the south that is superior to puntland?

 

[Waaqmasho]

That so called desert region has a higher HDI then anywhere else in Somalia, we might be third world and still overly focused on rural economic activities, but we are building our locals up with an urban economy, qardho just began a technical institute that is going to have technical skills training at international standard level.

Tell me one product u produce in the south that is superior to puntland?

I agree doctor, that isn't the problem. The problem is Puntland and somaliland have relative peace compared to the south and so they have higher HDI. But when the south becomes more peaceful, I doubt people would stay in other deegans but rather develop their own. Remember they are here because they are displaced due to war.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Ditoore, how do you expect us to be in the PL army when we don't have much of a political stake in the state? Political representation comes first then we can talk about military matters and whatnot.

No one tell them to stay in PL for free.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Ditoore, how do you expect us to be in the PL army when we don't have much of a political stake in the state? Political representation comes first then we can talk about military matters and whatnot.

When MJs can have political representation in baidaboa "jannah" then RX will have the opportunity to get more representatives in Puntland.

 

[Jaale]

We are going to build a big beautiful wall and make Ethiopia pay for it.

 

[Yusuf M]

Ditoore, how do you expect us to be in the PL army when we don't have much of a political stake in the state? Political representation comes first then we can talk about military matters and whatnot.

No offense, but no political representation for non locals, and only local clans will be part of the security force. Just like I wouldn't have political representation in a region I'm not from.