Puntland Health Finding. 2 Out Of 3 People Are Mad. 😂
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What a great legacy by rebels, warlords, terrorist. What a brilliant replacement of Siyad Barre govt. They don't know the toll being stateless has on the human mind. Even the Diaspora all join gangs, terrorism. crime, violence, drugs, alcohol, childcare rorts, single mother rorts, the whole population needs an absolute gutting.
They can't continue living in this fake nation and people acting all sheikh like and wadani but they see hell everywhere, it doesn't work this shirqool game if it did I would say keep it up, but we see the outcome.
They can't continue living in this fake nation and people acting all sheikh like and wadani but they see hell everywhere, it doesn't work this shirqool game if it did I would say keep it up, but we see the outcome.
What do u think is the waali rate in the population under the Kacaan?
Please contemplate for one moment every 3 Puntite u see assume 2 are crazy by default. You can scale that if U like since you know the rate. So if you see 10 assume 7, 100 assume 70, 1000 assume 700, 1 million assume 700,000.
Remember many can conceal it and is known as untreated Lakin way jiran yihin. The ones who seek help are far better, but Somalis conceal it and it eats their brain matter before it's terminal, and it's to late then.
@Diini23
Wallahi U ran too when u saw the pandemic of psychosis in the population whether hidden or exposed.
I bet your like in the west saying ahhh these ppl U might see one or two untreated in the street, the rest are concealed wejigooda xume in facilities but their all outside in PL, South and potentially for every 1000 U see well 700 are like this weather inside or publically shown.
Wallahi U ran too when u saw the pandemic of psychosis in the population whether hidden or exposed.
I bet your like in the west saying ahhh these ppl U might see one or two untreated in the street, the rest are concealed wejigooda xume in facilities but their all outside in PL, South and potentially for every 1000 U see well 700 are like this weather inside or publically shown.
@Diini23 I know U don't fear psychotic people who are open and known, you just fear the hidden ones who conceal it but inside is very much like this.
While on the outside looks and behaves normal and his thinking U prefer this show do u
Or do you want a religious show?
What scared U the most is the scale huh? Where it's 70 to 90% of any Somali you encounter
At least your informed now deeni and don't assume if he behaves and acts normal he is normal inside.
While on the outside looks and behaves normal and his thinking U prefer this show do u
Or do you want a religious show?
What scared U the most is the scale huh? Where it's 70 to 90% of any Somali you encounter
At least your informed now deeni and don't assume if he behaves and acts normal he is normal inside.
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I'm glad a mental illness pandemic has been declared in PL.
I'll tell U the first step is acceptance of it, PL has reached this stage, then it's treatment. A mix is good Quranic, Medicine, lifestyle changes such as healthy eating and sleep routine, exercising and socialising, Counselling and Psychology is also useful to share your pain not let it grow into a cancerous tumor, concealing it only makes it grow faster before it consumes you.
After a while you can reduce medicine till nil, you need to do alot of soul searching(spiritual not religious rituals) because that illness don't come for people for no reason or some random mutation crap in the brain, even today the docs are trying to enter psychosis thru psychedelics drugs so they can see and hear this dimension but I don't think it will be successful because when their back to reality and slept they won't remember it like U don't remember your highs in drugs. Where as someone who has been there will never forget it, it's a life changing event that's for sure.
@Yami man up now as U can see 70 to 90% of Somalis experience the dimensions but they just conceal it and act and play normal in public.
I'll tell U the first step is acceptance of it, PL has reached this stage, then it's treatment. A mix is good Quranic, Medicine, lifestyle changes such as healthy eating and sleep routine, exercising and socialising, Counselling and Psychology is also useful to share your pain not let it grow into a cancerous tumor, concealing it only makes it grow faster before it consumes you.
After a while you can reduce medicine till nil, you need to do alot of soul searching(spiritual not religious rituals) because that illness don't come for people for no reason or some random mutation crap in the brain, even today the docs are trying to enter psychosis thru psychedelics drugs so they can see and hear this dimension but I don't think it will be successful because when their back to reality and slept they won't remember it like U don't remember your highs in drugs. Where as someone who has been there will never forget it, it's a life changing event that's for sure.
@Yami man up now as U can see 70 to 90% of Somalis experience the dimensions but they just conceal it and act and play normal in public.
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@Diini23
I remember when I first encountered mental illness looking from the outside tho as I didn't know what it was either, I saw it in Mogadishu. Some were severe tied to a tree which is the same category I put on those locked in hospital here.
Some were in public and homeless and clearly in another dimension which U would see as strange but his in another world now, he can see and hear you don't get me wrong but he is also in a virtual reality elsewhere while also present in the world with you. It's like when U wear headphones n music your somewhere else or when U watch a movie, your still in the world Lakin wa maqan tahay.
They usually homeless because life starts to lose meaning when you see or hear or both what I call the dimensions. Others I saw just disappear for like years that's called isolation here or withdrawal. Ironically some even make it back to reality after Qur'an saar.
But those unfortunately are the known ones it's the unknown ones or untreated who live life just like you everyday their called high functioning, you cannot spot it in them but their just as sick as the known ones, I suspect this is the one U really have to be careful with as he can unleash on you anytime whether slowly and gradually or explosively, their highly unpredictable those ones.
I remember when I first encountered mental illness looking from the outside tho as I didn't know what it was either, I saw it in Mogadishu. Some were severe tied to a tree which is the same category I put on those locked in hospital here.
Some were in public and homeless and clearly in another dimension which U would see as strange but his in another world now, he can see and hear you don't get me wrong but he is also in a virtual reality elsewhere while also present in the world with you. It's like when U wear headphones n music your somewhere else or when U watch a movie, your still in the world Lakin wa maqan tahay.
They usually homeless because life starts to lose meaning when you see or hear or both what I call the dimensions. Others I saw just disappear for like years that's called isolation here or withdrawal. Ironically some even make it back to reality after Qur'an saar.
But those unfortunately are the known ones it's the unknown ones or untreated who live life just like you everyday their called high functioning, you cannot spot it in them but their just as sick as the known ones, I suspect this is the one U really have to be careful with as he can unleash on you anytime whether slowly and gradually or explosively, their highly unpredictable those ones.
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Sounds correct, so many erratic people in the country.
This guy is not a doctor but a politician and this isn’t the speech of a doctor lol stop listening to these fadhi ku dirir old men who love to grab a mic and spew jahli
you good? how is 70% of somalia mental more like 7%
I have been to Somaliland, mudug, the south, seen many diaspora Somalis. Somalis are cooked for the next millennium, I doubt even after a hundred generations we will breed out the cawaan/ waali genes. Maybe we should make use of recent technology where you can edit offspring genetics and get rid of pollutants in the gene pool but even with that we’re too improvished.
A lot of people are dismissing these statistics that @DR OSMAN posted, but there are apparent manifestations in all Somali populations everywhere. Most of these mentally challenged individuals mask and live in denial as it is a taboo in Somali society so they won’t get the right care,then after years of mental strain from masking they have an outburst of symptoms of their mental illnesses in their lives at some point, and it is not well received. There is increasing data coming out from Europe and America of how Somali populations there have severely higher rates of mental illnesses relative to the rest of the population, and in my anecdotal observations almost every relative family I got in the uk have one or two kids that are mentally challenged and I’m not exaggerating unfortunately. There needs to be a deep study of this phenomenon to be honest and how it can be mitigated as it is affecting our performance as a community
When is it a job of doctor to collect stats(unless research level ones)?
The govt collects stats. Listen their markers and criteria used for madness, so basically if masked or open doesn't save you as @Diini23 is aware.
They look for certain behaviours observed over a long duration maybe 2 to 4 weeks that isn't changing. One big marker is putting on a show in public which lots of Somalis do, that's really seen as hiding or unusual state that doesn't even change but is static. Life is about fluctuation up, down, diverse mood not one static, bipolar could be huge thing there @Diini23
I'm sure @Diini23 he observed some unusual behaviours there. I am just shocked at the rate.
It's like living in a real life mad.max.movie.
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@Diini23
My guess is depression and anxiety are huge there just unreported. As for the psychotic element could be very high as khat will play with your mind due to lack of sleep which is the biggest contributor to psychosis, a lack of sleep and since nutrition and diet is low, that's a double whammy risk level. Since stress Is high there also, that's another risk level. It's a.combination of high risk factors and the scenario doesn't look promising that it's not a plague inside the community.
But If I had to guess what the bulk one would be, I would guess bipolar without a doubt, the markers are there as their very manic usually in public and then in private in huge depressing lows where they just disappear for long stretch of time, their in the pits I assume.
My guess is depression and anxiety are huge there just unreported. As for the psychotic element could be very high as khat will play with your mind due to lack of sleep which is the biggest contributor to psychosis, a lack of sleep and since nutrition and diet is low, that's a double whammy risk level. Since stress Is high there also, that's another risk level. It's a.combination of high risk factors and the scenario doesn't look promising that it's not a plague inside the community.
But If I had to guess what the bulk one would be, I would guess bipolar without a doubt, the markers are there as their very manic usually in public and then in private in huge depressing lows where they just disappear for long stretch of time, their in the pits I assume.
I can vouch for psychosis even if appears scary to people, the dude is having a ball or is in a nitemare and most of the time its a mix of both states. He will be fine, he will snap out of it usually.
But depression and anxiety are really painful and sad conditions which is not taken seriously and it's scale is very high. It's really down played imagine losing all happiness and just being in some fixed low, numb, mood every day, every month, every year. They really do struggle as that takes away your energy to do anything if not crippling and if they haven't crashed yet it's a matter of time, u can't operate on such low gas tank for too long before they hit burnt out.
But depression and anxiety are really painful and sad conditions which is not taken seriously and it's scale is very high. It's really down played imagine losing all happiness and just being in some fixed low, numb, mood every day, every month, every year. They really do struggle as that takes away your energy to do anything if not crippling and if they haven't crashed yet it's a matter of time, u can't operate on such low gas tank for too long before they hit burnt out.
Genetics is very low factor, its environmental(stateless, stress, lack of diet, drugs, lack of sleep, depression) they are the huge triggers.
Most say it's a combination of factors in the equation, but genetic I would assume is a very small player, and it's the environmental factors that actually set it off into motion. Kinda like a car,.many factors to a car like engine and fuel tank, the engine is environmental issues and genetics is like.the fuel. No point fixing a fuel tank in such scenario and not fix the huge ass engine.
@Libaax-Joore
I love God sometimes wallahi, u think hey the issue in the world is ppl vs ppl, community vs community, external to you, but then he flipped that it can be a person vs himself. And everyone is running around trying to get him to stop fighting himself.
Wallahi you can't make this shit up. No wonder all Mosque khutbah deals with internal state and a little about external and community.
Most mentally ppl do fall to themselves and demons. The ones who attack others are like 1% sensationalised by mass media, its not true when u see their population 99% fall to themselves.
I love God sometimes wallahi, u think hey the issue in the world is ppl vs ppl, community vs community, external to you, but then he flipped that it can be a person vs himself. And everyone is running around trying to get him to stop fighting himself.
Wallahi you can't make this shit up. No wonder all Mosque khutbah deals with internal state and a little about external and community.
Most mentally ppl do fall to themselves and demons. The ones who attack others are like 1% sensationalised by mass media, its not true when u see their population 99% fall to themselves.
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For whatever its worth the prognosis or recovery is very high for Somali or African and even Muslims, very rare will you see one who spent 60 years of his life in and out of hospital(definitely whites are like this). These muslim or black guys even tho they do get it higher then white rate(kuma waaran) anywhere near white population(something their researchers know but won't publish).
It's like God is keeping certain communities in that hell longer and longer then other communities. Their could be some legitimate claim that Muslims can go to hell but not permantely or long durations.
U see it in mental hospital(hell
on earth) those who hold onto faith tend to have better recovery and Muslims have the highest.
That's when I really went back to Islam. Thank God that I was awaken by God and purified my demons. @Yami
It's like God is keeping certain communities in that hell longer and longer then other communities. Their could be some legitimate claim that Muslims can go to hell but not permantely or long durations.
U see it in mental hospital(hell
on earth) those who hold onto faith tend to have better recovery and Muslims have the highest.
That's when I really went back to Islam. Thank God that I was awaken by God and purified my demons. @Yami
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