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@GBTarmy what u think for small building maybe $500 rent a month, 3-4 beds. Nice aroma and perfumes, I can charge each Puntlander maybe $10 dollars a session, depending on my demographic market target. The elderly needs this type of service and the young also as it's relaxing for the body. I will charge them what it cost them to buy 'khatgooda' dee which is around 10 bucks. Plus they will be somali workers so I will pay them a local wage, while I only have one expense the 'thai teacher' who I need to pay a thai wage.

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4 people hadan helo per the hour massage. That's 40 dollars. If it's open 8 hours a day. I made $320 a day MINUS the expense of 4 people wages being 5 dollars a day x 4, it's 20 dollars. My rental bill will be 15 dollars day. I walk away with a clear $280 a day maxan raba dee. I can make a salary of 10k a month anigo garowe fadhiyo bishi markan wax kasto iska bixiyo oo kharashaad ah.

I will be hiring 'eelay' or Isaaq workers @SirLancelLord people they are good at this stuff from the IDP camps. Pay them $150 a month. Cuz a local puntlander would want anywhere to $300-500 a month and could cut into my profit margins.
 
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@GBTarmy what u think for small building maybe $500 rent a month, 3-4 beds. Nice aroma and perfumes, I can charge each Puntlander maybe $10 dollars a session, depending on my demographic market target. The elderly needs this type of service and the young also as it's relaxing for the body. I will charge them what it cost them to buy 'khatgooda' dee which is around 10 bucks. Plus they will be somali workers so I will pay them a local wage, while I only have one expense the 'thai teacher' who I need to pay a thai wage.

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4 people hadan helo per the hour massage. That's 40 dollars. If it's open 8 hours a day. I made $320 a day MINUS the expense of 4 people wages being 5 dollars a day x 4, it's 20 dollars. My rental bill will be 15 dollars day. I walk away with a clear $280 a day maxan raba dee. I can make a salary of 10k a month anigo garowe fadhiyo bishi markan wax kasto iska bixiyo oo kharashaad ah.

I will be hiring 'eelay' or Isaaq workers @SirLancelLord people they are good at this stuff from the IDP camps. Pay them $150 a month. Cuz a local puntlander would want anywhere to $300-500 a month and could cut into my profit margins.
Sounds good, people would prob like this and you could take it the next level if it's a success.
 

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LOW IQ MJ Midget, Go and take your land back from 1dooristan,

stop ass licking the B00N, his people will slaughter you if you weren't being protected by OG



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Why u baited for so easily, as if any MJ will side with B22NTA over Absame, I mean do u think we are 'suicidal' and want Kismayo to become like 'Gedo' being MURKED by 5 different actors. No offense @Shaolin23 @Sheikh as long as That marehan boy is being cut up into 4 different pieces and served on JL plate, Shabab Plate, SFG plate, Kenya Plate, we honestly are never ever going to side with you over Absame.

So stop being unrealistic, just look at GEDO would you side with them if you weren't marehan and be honest? Kismayo is peaceful and growing, its sure beats Mogadishu which can't even secure it's presidential palace forget the city over-all. Heck you will be lucky to walk on one street safely in Mogadishu maka al mukarammah and that's it. Kismayo the whole town is safe and it's developing. You just being a 'xasid' since sade isn't ruling but Kismayo is doing quite well in terms of security. It's the only city in the south that is totally secured.
 
I commend Puntites waa dad ilbax even though we differ in opinion and methods sometimes they have an unshakable unity I wish my clan had that unity brings peace,prosperity and development and most importantly quality of life

Secondly cousin we have to be frank here I wish you would stop using the whole clan of MX as a scapegoat for your 8 years of failure in Jubbaland a state that was designed to mirror Puntland but is miles and miles away from even 2002 Puntland

In an 8 year term and 2 federal presidents Kismaayo which has been secure thanks to Ahmed Madoobe policy of iron fist has not reached any major development like a major airport and sea port expansion new roads,a new modern hospital,a top university not even trash collection a place that was supposed to be completing with Xamar and Hargeisa here's a challenge can you post any tangible developments in Kismaayo for the last 8 years Kismaayo is third capital in Somalia but competes with Beledweyne,Baydhabo and Gaalkacyo


well its hard to develop the place since we are spending time dealing with your shape shifting people, one day mucarad, next allies, next calling for failmarjo to do something, yuor uncle doesn't exactly give jubaland unicorns, does he? he has used every trick, nay, marehan, has used every trick to divert resources, to send suicide bombers, the last kismayo attackers 3 were marehan, 2 eley, 2 jarer and they used for 3 weeks a house one by Radaal or whatever his name is who is sipping tea in xamar with Hiraale and farmajo, how do you allow terrorist to use your house

its hard to develop, every time we make peace you lot renege on it, sack the ugaasyal and other peace makers,

just last week you were saying yuo are very happy the marehan reer ahmed minster arrested in xamar deserved to have been arrested, how do we develop the bloody place when all of our attention and money goes towards dealing with you lot and the other qashin you have raised up?

why do you throw rocks when you live in a glass house? you have have celebrated the ugaas sacked by marehan, the minister arrested and booty clapped for every mucarad in kismayo and xamar cheek by jowl, so tell me, how can we move forward when your ilkoyare race is the greatest obstacle to peace and development since 1969 to kismayo/jubaland?


wallahi i am sick and tired of your people, insha Allah a Mohamed Zubeer leader will come, much more ruthless than ahmed and he will say marehan take your half of gedo and we will take our 2 jubas and half of gedo, even in said barre era yuo have never had a single MP from the 2 jubas, we need to separate like mudug was split,

wallahi there will never be peace and development with your people, they are too backward, langabs with chip on their shoulder,

you lot have tasted xaraam and mooryaans during siad barre era and dont want to give it up,
 

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@Teeri-Alpha but your Madoobe needs to stop taking advantage of the security situation in JL regions, some people think he isn't progressing security outside Kismayo so he can use it as an excuse on why he needs to be re-elected constantly. We are not going to tolerate he sits in Kismayo 20 years and continously says 'weli waqti amniga ma dhamaan'.

We know he fears once the security situation is complete in JL, the 'educated' Jubaland elites will run for office arguing on the platform of 'security is over' and it's time for 'development'. Madoobe was selected for the security phase of JL, not to sit there every 5 years in Kismayo and do nothing about security. JL needs to move from security phase to the development phase and we feel madoobe is holding this back for his own political greed purposes.
 

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I'm quite impressed with @SirLanceAlot, he didn't mention SL in few posts. But he went to his old habits and advised Puntlanders to use Berbera port :farmajoyaab:

No I don't want but I would like free trade all ports to be connected to each other by all means and free trade.

We need to stop this competition where we sabotage one another
 
This economic model of natural resources like farming, livestock, and minerals and oils is basically relying on what god gave Puntland. I am not saying we shouldn't capitalize on this but we ignore one the most highest assets in the land, it's our people and they're brain capacity.

Why are we not turning they're brains into 'assets' like Singapore did. We need them inventing in all fields of the academics and excelling and producing new products for PL. This starts with strong university and research facilities, do we have that? NO.

How do we achieve that, all we need is few good quality professors from overseas like Somalia did in the 1960s, by bringing Italian professors to teach our students so this 'brain' which is basically 'dependent' on the land resources like farming, fishery, minerals and resources can start using they're brain to create products or services themselves.

I am bringing a Thai massage parlour and one Thai woman to train and teach 10 students for me and I will make them my workers. I will pay her good salary as teacher and have her camped in garowe so when the workers leave she can continue training new ones for me.

What new product or service will u bring to PL ayaa laysku haysta beyond what they already have like HOTELS and normal shops selling small items?


Canada -Singapore exports, 5 million people with land one third the size of London, in 1965 it was poorer than Ghana or Ethiopia, today it has more GDP output than Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Egypt, Sudan, Tanzania and uganda and Zimbabwe and Yemen COMBINED, thats over 500 million people have less economic output than singpore with 5 million, 700 Km, Puntland is around 240,000 KM Squared in size,

give me 4 years and let me become economic advisor to Puntland, with in 4 years Puntland can easily have the GDP output bigger than zimbabwe (27$ billion, somalia is around 5 billion $)

insha Allah this is what i aim to do for Jubaland, but first i must sort out the marehan issue, either we kick out their half of gedo and let cawlyahan keep the other half and take that and the 2 jubas or they must bend over and be allowed to be ruled by Us.

we need specialisation, we need hi value added goods, not shipping of frankinsene, it will run out and takes ages to grow and small market, we need to become like Germany, exporting technology, manufactured goods, japan, Singapore, South Korea,


Canada- Singapore exports, one nation, Singapore trades with 200 nations,
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DR OSMAN

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Canada -Singapore exports, 5 million people with land one third the size of London, in 1965 it was poorer than Ghana or Ethiopia, today it has more GDP output than Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Egypt, Sudan, Tanzania and uganda and Zimbabwe and Yemen COMBINED, thats over 500 million people have less economic output than singpore with 5 million, 700 Km, Puntland is around 240,000 KM Squared in size,

give me 4 years and let me become economic advisor to Puntland, with in 4 years Puntland can easily have the GDP output bigger than zimbabwe (27$ billion, somalia is around 5 billion $)

insha Allah this is what i aim to do for Jubaland, but first i must sort out the marehan issue, either we kick out their half of gedo and let cawlyahan keep the other half and take that and the 2 jubas or they must bend over and be allowed to be ruled by Us.

we need specialisation, we need hi value added goods, not shipping of frankinsene, it will run out and takes ages to grow and small market, we need to become like Germany, exporting technology, manufactured goods, japan, Singapore, South Korea,


Canada- Singapore exports, one nation, Singapore trades with 200 nations,
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I am disgusted with the portion of harti got in JL parliament. Only 5 seats. That's rubbish any explanation for this waryaa? We are the third largest clan in JL, how in the world does rahanwayn have speaker and more MPS then Harti who are the economic bank-bone and merchants and land holders of all Kismayo while the rest are 'renters' in the city. Come on you tell me duli absame. Plus remember Kudaa is osman mahmoud, that's our territory.
 
I am disgusted with the portion of harti got in JL parliament. Only 5 seats. That's rubbish any explanation for this waryaa? We are the third largest clan in JL, how in the world does rahanwayn have speaker and more MPS then Harti who are the economic bank-bone and merchants and land holders of all Kismayo while the rest are 'renters' in the city. Come on you tell me duli absame. Plus remember Kudaa is osman mahmoud, that's our territory.


0) no one gives a shyt about your opinion or if your disgusted, no one asked you, send 5,000 sons to die for you then we will talk, this is why we rule you lot and marehan, and fought the British in the 1880s n kismayo/jubaland, we are willing to die for the place, its mine,


1) you got very lucky, 5 is too much, it should be only 1

2) you robbed the somali finance ministry in the 1960s and used the money to purchase houses, its xaraam, you will answer to God first then us later, hence why your a langab in kismayo, xaraam makes one langab forever, you will never prosper,

3) you only live in calaanly, one xafad of kismayo town and kismayo county is Ogaden majority, hence why Governor has always been Ogaden even in MJ 1960s era,

4) dont bite the hand that feeds you, 5 is too much and should be cut down

5) eley being given 10 was a mistake,

6) ilkoyare originally got 12 MPs then he increased it to 14 then 19 to sweet talk them , we need an uncle Umasr Jeese moment and wipe them out

7) Ahmed is a shekih, you will be deported and so will ilkoyare and exterminated if you miss-behave,

8) isnha Allah a Ruthless Mohamed Zubeer will come after the islamic sheikh ahmed is gone and we will teach you all a lesson,

we conquered Jubaland in 1780s till 1820 when yuo were naked and busty searching for water, your a marti, a guest, so are all non Absame, your all guests and if any miss behave we will send you to after life,

kulaha 5 is too small for us, its waaayy to much, you give somalis an inch and they ask for a mile,

behave yourself and stay put, or we will karbash you and put an cagheer feet up your midget ass,
 

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0) no one gives a shyt about your opinion or if your disgusted, no one asked you, send 5,000 sons to die for you then we will talk, this is why we rule you lot and marehan, and fought the British in the 1880s n kismayo/jubaland, we are willing to die for the place, its mine,


1) you got very lucky, 5 is too much, it should be only 1

2) you robbed the somali finance ministry in the 1960s and used the money to purchase houses, its xaraam, you will answer to God first then us later, hence why your a langab in kismayo, xaraam makes one langab forever, you will never prosper,

3) you only live in calaanly, one xafad of kismayo town and kismayo county is Ogaden majority, hence why Governor has always been Ogaden even in MJ 1960s era,

4) dont bite the hand that feeds you, 5 is too much and should be cut down

5) eley being given 10 was a mistake,

6) *******e originally got 12 MPs then he increased it to 14 then 19 to sweet talk them , we need an uncle Umasr Jeese moment and wipe them out

7) Ahmed is a shekih, you will be deported and so will *******e and exterminated if you miss-behave,

8) isnha Allah a Ruthless Mohamed Zubeer will come after the islamic sheikh ahmed is gone and we will teach you all a lesson,

we conquered Jubaland in 1780s till 1820 when yuo were naked and busty searching for water, your a marti, a guest, so are all non Absame, your all guests and if any miss behave we will send you to after life,

kulaha 5 is too small for us, its waaayy to much, you give somalis an inch and they ask for a mile,

behave yourself and stay put, or we will karbash you and put an cagheer feet up your midget ass,

U dumb f*ck the whole land is owned by us, that's why we are always Mayor. Besides Kismayo is 4 districts with 8 neighborhoods.

Calanley is Harti.
Fanoole is Harti.
Via Afmadow is Harti.
Warshada hilibka iyo xero guul wade is Harti/Sade.
Luga baxsi is Harti.
Farjano is Harti.
Aargada is Harti.
Siinay is Ogaden

From the 4 original districts of Kismayo 80% is Harti. From the 8 Neighborhoods within those 4 districts only 1 is Ogaden which is Siinay and half a neighborhood is Sade which is Warshada Hilibka. So get fucked waryaa. Plus all the land and homes were built by Harti, the sade/ogaden who live there now are 'renting' from majerten. The land-owners and capitalists and merchants are all Majerten. The port is run by Majerten. The Mayor is Majerten.

The Mayor indicates who is majority waryaa. Why is abgaal mayor of hamar if he isn't majority? why is majerten mayor if he isn't majority. Stop being silly you stupid c*nt and acting like this sade kids @Shaolin23 @Sheikh who don't even live in half a neighborhood of Kismayo let alone own a district.

Do u want me to show 'golaha kismaayo' the actual council members of Kismayo? 80% Harti waryaa for each district. Plus we are the capitalist u forget this important trait about Majerten. Dhaqaalihi dhan Kismaayo taalo hal reer ba iska leh, lama wada lahan dee. It's not shared. They own every single land plot, if you want to buy a house today in Kismayo, nin majerten ah waa inu ka iibiya dhulka, so we making money from that too loooooooool.

Plus all the existing homes are Majerten, so any home u live in will be paying rent to majerten or u must of bought the land from majerten which he still made money from. Harti in Kismayo are power house waryaa and deserve far more representation then 5 MP, this isn't speaking about the reality in Jubbaland. The soldiers u mention of Absame is true, you are the large bulk of soldiers since you live mainly in the rural areas of Jubba Dhexe up to NFD. Since your an economist u r aware how important the merchants and traders are to the city, you will lack any sort of taxation revenue to pay your soldiers waryaa.

JL should portion at least 10-12 MPS for Harti due to they're extreme importance, not all stakeholders are equal in JL. There is no way an EELAY should get 12 seats, they're faqri and poor and no-one would know if they disappeared tommorow.
 
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U dumb f*ck the whole land is owned by us, that's why we are always Mayor. Besides Kismayo is 4 districts with 8 neighborhoods.

Calanley is Harti.
Fanoole is Harti.
Via Afmadow is Harti.
Warshada hilibka iyo xero guul wade is Harti/Sade.
Luga baxsi is Harti.
Farjano is Harti.
Aargada is Harti.
Siinay is Ogaden

From the 4 original districts of Kismayo 80% is Harti. From the 8 Neighborhoods within those 4 districts only 1 is Ogaden which is Siinay and half a neighborhood is Sade which is Warshada Hilibka. So get fucked waryaa. Plus all the land and homes were built by Harti, the sade/ogaden who live there now are 'renting' from majerten. The land-owners and capitalists and merchants are all Majerten. The port is run by Majerten. The Mayor is Majerten.

The Mayor indicates who is majority waryaa. Why is abgaal mayor of hamar if he isn't majority? why is majerten mayor if he isn't majority. Stop being silly you stupid c*nt and acting like this sade kids @Shaolin23 @Sheikh who don't even live in half a neighborhood of Kismayo let alone own a district.

Do u want me to show 'golaha kismaayo' the actual council members of Kismayo? 80% Harti waryaa for each district. Plus we are the capitalist u forget this important trait about Majerten. Dhaqaalihi dhan Kismaayo taalo hal reer ba iska leh, lama wada lahan dee. It's not shared. They own every single land plot, if you want to buy a house today in Kismayo, nin majerten ah waa inu ka iibiya dhulka, so we making money from that too loooooooool.

Plus all the existing homes are Majerten, so any home u live in will be paying rent to majerten or u must of bought the land from majerten which he still made money from. Harti in Kismayo are power house waryaa and deserve far more representation then 5 MP, this isn't speaking about the reality in Jubbaland. The soldiers u mention of Absame is true, you are the large bulk of soldiers since you live mainly in the rural areas of Jubba Dhexe up to NFD. Since your an economist u r aware how important the merchants and traders are to the city, you will lack any sort of taxation revenue to pay your soldiers waryaa.

JL should portion at least 10-12 MPS for Harti due to they're extreme importance, not all stakeholders are equal in JL. There is no way an EELAY should get 12 seats, they're faqri and poor and no-one would know if they disappeared tommorow.


you dumb fock who likes to create online talk shows to insult his reer abti and somali tribes as if he has nothing better to do, lick an caghdeer feet, take your BS lies and Get the flip out of here,

your beneath me, since you only have 1 degree, speaking to you is like a German talking to a Moldovan,
 

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@DR OSMAN nacaskaa tahay wasee do not derail the topic

I am apart of Burtinle zone now boy. My village Birta dheer, where your mighty abdillahi yusuf was born was given to my clan to re-settle in return for our 'sacrifice' on Garowe being a capital of PL. I still have a presence in Garowe 'qadimi' areas like the historical part of the city and it's outskirts as camel herders. But I am also based in Birta dheer which is 70 km south of Garowe. It's closer to Burtinle.

We are apart of the 'surrounding villages' of Burtinle now.
 
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