Puntland Minerals Sector Needs Investment

DR OSMAN

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Puntland is a semi-arid region, in the wet season, the land is beautifully green and lush, but when it's the dry season, it turns arid. This gives us the best of all worlds.

In the dry times we should teach chemistry to all students in our land, which is the easiest subject of the sciences. All resource minerals in the world are extracted from dry environments, becuz it can break down over time and store minerals. In chemistry we need to extract these minerals, they don't come natural;y developed like 'crude oil', this is where our students would benefit from learning chemistry which will teach u how to extract minerals from our rocks.

Limestone is plentiful in Puntland, to extract it, you need to break it down with crushers and have a heat source that is 2000 degrees, the lime will come out and we can process it and export it to support so many industries in the world where it's used for purifying drinking water, making sugar, cleaning gases from powers stations, constructing buildings, producing iron and steel and treating contaminated land.

Every mineral resource follows the same pattern, 'crush, process, heat'. How hard is that to learn for our students. Chemistry is similar to cooking. U need to measure earthly ingredients, mix according to formula(which is measurements) and finally heat(different levels of heat temperature) is needed for different minerals. Maybe our females will learn quicker this subject since it's similar to cooking in the kitchen.
 

DR OSMAN

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Puntites need to stop learning 'agriculture', we are among the very few places in the world with 'deserts' and therefore we have less competitors in this sector unlike agriculture. We should only do agriculture for food security nothing more, this must be a govt policy, anything beyond food security, must be banned.

Puntite students should focus on geology and chemistry, this will transform our land when we learn how to benefit from it, plus there isn't many places that have deserts, so our product will be 'expensive' and have good returns, unlike agriculture. Look how cheap agriculture is in your market, why anyone enters this for money making is crazy. The world is oversupplied with agriculture, why join such industry, where there is an intentional oversupply of product. When u can benefit from your desert minerals with higher prices and less supplier competition.
 
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DR OSMAN

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I was looking forward for your canal from Shabelle, turning PL into agricultural powerhouse.
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3rd world countries are called low income becuz their primrary industry is 'agriculture'. Normal nations only do agriculture for food security only not their main industry. They know you will be low income if u do agriculture as main industry because it sells for 1 dollar for that kilo looool but for that one kilo, u invested thousands into material, equipment, time, labor, transport, like a doqon. Hence they know u will always be 3rd world with those cost to profit ratio. Infact to make matters worse, if u don't sell you produce, it will expire and rot. Will mineral resources? never, you can store it in warehouses for decades without expiring.

I want PL to ensure it's cost of production in any industry is lower then it's end product market price as this equates to profit, or else we will not grow our economy. I also want us to invest in businesses with end products that don't expire like doors, windows, furniture, cement, minerals and can be stored away in warehouses.
 
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The mineral sector in Puntland and overall Somalia first needs strong regulations, including enforcement of those laws where they're geared towards benefiting the population and not a few greedy businessmen and women.

These regulations should also take into account environmental protection practices such as filling the open pits, using save chemicals that don't hurt the environment and the existing fauna,, etc.

We also need the specific laws that deal with foreign enterprises that may come in for training our forces or develop the infrastructure, but then steal our mineral resources. This is heavily practiced throughout the Somali territories, and it is something that needs public awareness.
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
I’d say a fundamental understanding of geology would be just as important, and for youths who have time and a clean and fresh mind I’d say for them to start with cultivating a good understanding of Astronomy so they get a firm rooted understanding from the wealth of praxis of those theories of geological formation in nearby planets

If groups of men come together from each town should be able to get PHD and Master holders in Astronomy Geology Chemistry Physics and Calculus, from Sudan Iraq or India to teach students in toolos all over Bari Nugaal and Mudug

Also make sure there’s honest Somali men who are in those industries managing to make sure students have the right curriculum, the teachers are teaching adequately, and that also students aren’t lagging do to their own negligence

Lean, intensive, and specialized education can be leaps and bounds more beneficial than a large wasteful frivolous education system with billions of expeidenture
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
The mineral sector in Puntland and overall Somalia first needs strong regulations, including enforcement of those laws where they're geared towards benefiting the population and not a few greedy businessmen and women.

These regulations should also take into account environmental protection practices such as filling the open pits, using save chemicals that don't hurt the environment and the existing fauna,, etc.

We also need the specific laws that deal with foreign enterprises that may come in for training our forces or develop the infrastructure, but then steal our mineral resources. This is heavily practiced throughout the Somali territories, and it is something that needs public awareness.
Having these regulations done is could be very easy, you just need to pay someone to write the regulations with our oversight and train men to understand and enforce it
 

DR OSMAN

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@Roorigeg The land belongs to the people not the government and the people are represented through their regional/federal parliaments. Any deal should exclude presidential involvement, but remain within the duties given to the parliament they should manage our contractual agreements with mining companies and get the government to follow our parliamentary laws when negiotating with them. This doesn't happen in Somalia, it's always the other side around with the president cutting a deal and parliament signing it after bribery.

The proper procedure is parliament coming together, negiotating what's best for nation and converting that into a piece of legislation and forcing the president to stay within those parameters when negiotating with private companies.
 
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@Roorigeg The land belongs to the people not the government and the people are represented through their regional/federal parliaments. Any deal should exclude presidential involvement, but remain within the duties given to the parliament they should manage our contractual agreements with mining companies and get the government to follow our parliamentary laws when negiotating with them. This doesn't happen in Somalia, it's always the other side around with the president cutting a deal and parliament signing it after bribery.

The proper procedure is parliament coming together, negiotating what's best for nation and converting that into a piece of legislation and forcing the president to stay within those parameters when negiotating with private companies.
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I’d say a fundamental understanding of geology would be just as important, and for youths who have time and a clean and fresh mind I’d say for them to start with cultivating a good understanding of Astronomy so they get a firm rooted understanding from the wealth of praxis of those theories of geological formation in nearby planets

If groups of men come together from each town should be able to get PHD and Master holders in Astronomy Geology Chemistry Physics and Calculus, from Sudan Iraq or India to teach students in toolos all over Bari Nugaal and Mudug

Also make sure there’s honest Somali men who are in those industries managing to make sure students have the right curriculum, the teachers are teaching adequately, and that also students aren’t lagging do to their own negligence

Lean, intensive, and specialized education can be leaps and bounds more beneficial than a large wasteful frivolous education system with billions of expeidenture


This brother is one of the best geologists that I know from Puntland. He is Omar Mohamud, Abdi Isse. Perhaps setting a side enough resources for him to lead this effort will create the next generation of geologists in Puntland.


The sad part is all of the professional geologists are not back home but in the diaspora, and other countries are taking advantage of their knowledge. One of the bigger problems with the lack of stable central state in Somalia is the brain-drain: Nearly all of the badly-needed Somali professionals are outside the country.
 
@Roorigeg The land belongs to the people not the government and the people are represented through their regional/federal parliaments. Any deal should exclude presidential involvement, but remain within the duties given to the parliament they should manage our contractual agreements with mining companies and get the government to follow our parliamentary laws when negiotating with them. This doesn't happen in Somalia, it's always the other side around with the president cutting a deal and parliament signing it after bribery.

The proper procedure is parliament coming together, negiotating what's best for nation and converting that into a piece of legislation and forcing the president to stay within those parameters when negiotating with private companies.

But when sending parliamentarians, are the traditional elders sending their best and brightest in these fields? I know that is not the case. In my view, the buck should start by raising public awareness of who should be parliamentarians. Nowadays, it is who has the most money who can buy votes with the most money.
 
If Puntlanders could raise 300 million for a port via qaran without profits, then a company that mines the coal of dhurbo, the gold of majia-yahan, the silver/tantalum/lead of qandala and that gave them dividends would be an easy sell.

imagine if the average geel-jire could put the 1000 he makes from each camel to work by investing it, 10 percent dividends on that would be 100 dollars a year, now multiply that by all the goats and camels and sheep he sells in a year.

Somalis are capital rich, we just don’t know it.
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
This brother is one of the best geologists that I know from Puntland. He is Omar Mohamud, Abdi Isse. Perhaps setting a side enough resources for him to lead this effort will create the next generation of geologists in Puntland.


The sad part is all of the professional geologists are not back home but in the diaspora, and other countries are taking advantage of their knowledge. One of the bigger problems with the lack of stable central state in Somalia is the brain-drain: Nearly all of the badly-needed Somali professionals are outside the country.
I have real close kin ties with Abdi Cise on both sides, I’ll need to link him

Jazakhallahu khair akhi
 

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