(RAW FOOTAGE) 1988 Genocide in Somaliland

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I'd rather not post this out of respect for the dead but every Somali must watch this documentary.

Whether you were for or against the Barre regime this part of Somali history cannot be ignored.
 
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I wanted to ask you to post this vid after I saw your comment earlier.
Thanks for posting it
This was a weak stunt as much as I have respect for barre he commited an atrocity against his own.
Only a handful of countries ever bombarded it's citizens & it's sad Somalia has to be one of them.
Nothing shall change till Somalis all come together & admit these genocides.
 
Galaeri

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This 'documentary' is the product of a mixture sensationalist Isaaq propaganada and some factual historical information. I am yet to see anything that proves 'systematic oppression' of the Isaaq people. That video clip about with the guy saying kill everything other than the crows is worrisome but it is still not enough to shake my belief. Video footage of the SNA conducting artillery strikes is completely useless given they were targeting SNM positions in an attempt to recapture territory.

I am believe the bombings do constitute an atrocity since the loss of life was mostly civillian, however I will not entertain the suggestion of Isaaq genocide until I see concrete proof. Until I see the unearthing of mass graves and DNA testing, or a proper historical resource I will never believe it. I will keep an eye open for some proof that suggests this is true.

I heard about that the guy col. that burned the guy to death and posed for a photo. Can anyone tell me more about that guy?
 
Galaeri

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^^^ The holocaust definitely happened but it is grossly exaggerated, the death toll is no more than 400k deaths. Call me holocaust denier as well if you like. There are historians that have gone down that path and got burned for telling the truth, it wouldn't phase me if some people would despise me for this. I won't accept somebody's claims until I see the proof.
 
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merka said:

I'd rather not post this out of respect for the dead but every Somali must watch this documentary.

Whether you were for or against the Barre regime this part of Somali history cannot be ignored.
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This documentary is biased and made by Ethiopian woman Safia Aidid, I used term Ethiopian because safe preferred Ethiopian identity than Somali.
 
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HashiBarre said:
That video clip about with the guy saying kill everything other than the crows is worrisome but it is still not enough to shake my belief.
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"That guy" was Gen. Ahmed Warsame Mohamed, the man in charge of the bombardment of Hargeisa. It wasn't just rhetoric but they were orders to his subordinates.
HashiBarre said:
Video footage of the SNA conducting artillery strikes is completely useless given they were targeting SNM positions in an attempt to recapture territory.
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How were they targeting SNM positions when they said themselves that they positioned the artillery at maximum range. Did you see all those shell casings were there beside the artillery? Doesn't look like they were going for precision.
HashiBarre said:
I am believe the bombings do constitute an atrocity since the loss of life was mostly civillian, however I will not entertain the suggestion of Isaaq genocide until I see concrete proof. Until I see the unearthing of mass graves and DNA testing, or a proper historical resource I will never believe it. I will keep an eye open for some proof that suggests this is true.
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Didn't you see the footage near the end of truck loads of bones being dumped to be reburied? How many dead people filled those dump trucks?
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I heard about that the guy col. that burned the guy to death and posed for a photo. Can anyone tell me more about that guy?
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His name is Yusuf Abdi Ali aka Colonel Tukeh. Google his name if you want more info.
 
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Canuck said:
This documentary is biased and made by Ethiopian woman Safia Aidid, I used term Ethiopian because safe preferred Ethiopian identity than Somali.
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The documentary was made by Dr. Hussein Bulhan. I don't know this Safia Aidid you're talking about.
 
Galaeri

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Canuck said:
This documentary is biased and made by Ethiopian woman Safa Aidid, I used term Ethiopian because safe preferred Ethiopian identity than Somali.
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Who would have figured? I assumed it was made by an Isaaq.
There is an aljazeera documentary. Some of the claims they made in that production were beyond outrageous. They uncovered a mass grave in that documentary, I wondered if they belonged to Isaaq civillians or whether they belonged to the people murdered by the SNM in 1988 before the bombings. Or if they belonged to Dhulbahantes from 1991. I would like to see if they conduct DNA tests and what the results may be.

I heard of a mass killing done by the Barre admin in 1978 after the war. All military officers, do you know about that or where it took place?
 
Galaeri

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merka said:
"That guy" was Gen. Ahmed Warsame Mohamed, the man in charge of the bombardment of Hargeisa. It wasn't just rhetoric but they were orders to his subordinates.

How were they targeting SNM positions when they said themselves that they positioned the artillery at maximum range. Did you see all those shell casings were there beside the artillery? Doesn't look like they were going for precision.

Didn't you see the footage near the end of truck loads of bones being dumped to be reburied? How many dead people filled those dump trucks?

His name is Yusuf Abdi Ali aka Colonel Tukeh. Google his name if you want more info.
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The artillery thing you said is nonsense. They were bombing SNM positions for two months until they were destroyed.

I didn't see any bones or dump trucks. I started skipping when the old lady started recounting her story @~25mins.
 
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HashiBarre said:
The artillery thing you said is nonsense. They were bombing SNM positions for two months until they were destroyed.

I didn't see any bones or dump trucks. I started skipping when the old lady started recounting her story @~25mins.
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It's around the 30min mark
 
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HashiBarre said:
Who would have figured? I assumed it was made by an Isaaq.
There is an aljazeera documentary. Some of the claims they made in that production were beyond outrageous. They uncovered a mass grave in that documentary, I wondered if they belonged to Isaaq civillians or whether they belonged to the people murdered by the SNM in 1988 before the bombings. Or if they belonged to Dhulbahantes from 1991. I would like to see if they conduct DNA tests and what the results may be.

I heard of a mass killing done by the Barre admin in 1978 after the war. All military officers, do you know about that or where it took place?
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Why are you even believing what she's saying? Look at the credits for god sake. :drakewtf:

The mass grave was in the town of Arabsiyo between Hargeisa and Gabiley. It's an entirely Isaaq village.
 
Galaeri

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merka said:
Why are you even believing what she's saying? Look at the credits for god sake. :drakewtf:

The mass grave was in the town of Arabsiyo between Hargeisa and Gabiley. It's an entirely Isaaq village.
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I am looking at some articles from 1990 and 1988. I am looking for information.
 
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