Rumours Trump will recognise Somaliland.
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Yh but it could happen, America is desperate to have military presence in Somaliland to tackle the houthis. Djibouti isn't enough. Something is telling me he will recognise us but only for one deal
Its a news aggregator, and they have a non existent source. "Semafor" as their news source. Google that shit and see for yourself.
why are these ppl so delusional ?
people really underestimate the gravity of recognising disputed territory from another rebel territory. The EU and US have waged war on Russia on the sole premise of territorial integrity, and that there’s no basis for recognising Luhansk Republic or whatever. As if they are going to upend 80 yrs of international conventions for … a naval base in the Red Sea ? These ppl are delusional, Somaliand has nothing remotely meaningful to offer the West in exchange for recognition.
They know it will just open a Pandora’s box for another decades worth of conflict. What would one even recognize, you can’t recognize a country where more than half the territory is either disputed or outside their control.
ppl obsess with Somaliland and there latest cope too much, Its getting annoying tbh. I just feel bad for some of them as I know there’s a whole set of diaspora panders who literally spend 12 hrs a day retweeting sonaliland stuff and creating videos with fake translation and tagging right wingers. I know some ppl that have been doing this for over 5 yrs. What a waste of human capital.
people really underestimate the gravity of recognising disputed territory from another rebel territory. The EU and US have waged war on Russia on the sole premise of territorial integrity, and that there’s no basis for recognising Luhansk Republic or whatever. As if they are going to upend 80 yrs of international conventions for … a naval base in the Red Sea ? These ppl are delusional, Somaliand has nothing remotely meaningful to offer the West in exchange for recognition.
They know it will just open a Pandora’s box for another decades worth of conflict. What would one even recognize, you can’t recognize a country where more than half the territory is either disputed or outside their control.
ppl obsess with Somaliland and there latest cope too much, Its getting annoying tbh. I just feel bad for some of them as I know there’s a whole set of diaspora panders who literally spend 12 hrs a day retweeting sonaliland stuff and creating videos with fake translation and tagging right wingers. I know some ppl that have been doing this for over 5 yrs. What a waste of human capital.
A Trump White House looks set to recognize the world’s newest country | Semafor
Recognizing Somaliland could enable US intelligence to monitor the movement of weapons in the region and keep an eye on Chinese activity.
www.semafor.com
“Recognizing Somaliland could enable US intelligence to set up long term operations to monitor the movement of weapons in a volatile region as well as keep an eye on Chinese activity.”
Does this really make sense to anyone ?
do you really need to recognize somaliland to set up long term operations there ?
the US sets up “long term operations” in countries they are AT WAR with (Syria) why would they need to recognise Somaliand?
further, US is a close partner wjtb Somalia, does it really make sense to be enemies with Somalia to grt a base in Somali land?
key point: You don’t need permission from Bihi or whoever took over to set up a base. What the hell is Somali land going to do ? Send their army ? You can cordone off a large section near the coast and that’s it.
the whole idea of the necessity for a base their is extremely dubious. You have operations in Djibouti and a Chinese base is right there, how much closer can you get to watch them? You could set up a base in Somaliand and if the US gets authorization from FGS anyone attempting to obstruct their operations would get obliterated.
the whole democracy angle makes much more sense but ppl be reaching for all and any reason to support their position to recognise.
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A Trump White House looks set to recognize the world’s newest country | Semafor
Recognizing Somaliland could enable US intelligence to monitor the movement of weapons in the region and keep an eye on Chinese activity.
“Recognizing Somaliland could enable US intelligence to set up long term operations to monitor the movement of weapons in a volatile region as well as keep an eye on Chinese activity.”
Does this really make sense to anyone ?
do you really need to recognize somaliland to set up long term operations there ?
the US sets up “long term operations” in countries they are AT WAR with (Syria) why would they need to recognise Somaliand?
further, US is a close partner wjtb Somalia, does it really make sense to be enemies with Somalia to grt a base in Somali land?
key point: You don’t need permission from Bihi or whoever took over to set up a base. What the hell is Somali land going to do ? Send their army ? You can cordone off a large section near the coast and that’s it.
the whole idea of the necessity for a base their is extremely dubious. You have operations in Djibouti and a Chinese base is right there, how much closer can you get to watch them? You could set up a base in Somaliand and if the US gets authorization from FGS anyone attempting to obstruct their operations would get obliterated.
the whole democracy angle makes much more sense but ppl be reaching for all and any reason to support their position to recognise.
Berbera base was Somalia's only chip during the cold war. It's a valuable staging ground for the gulf of aden, Red sea, and Indian Ocean, so yeah it's worth recognizing Somaliland for and more so to have a valuable democratic ally in the region full of unstable regimes from Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti now moving towards China and Yemen because of the Houthis. Somaliand is really a rarity. Somalia is very very very politically unstable there's no way to overemphasize this.
Your idea that anyone obstructing a base could be obliterated is senseless. The US won't put a base in a war zone especially a long term naval base that's beyond retarded.
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I will believe it when it happens 
Garaad Awal
War is coming.
SL is collapsing. Tell your Caynabo uncles to prepare to defend themselves from the Dhulo Dothraki without the HA army
America spent millions trying to stablize Somalia. They aren't going to waste away all that work by destroying their relationship with FGS lol.
Generally speaking, nobody is willing to recognise breakaway states unless they have the assent of the country being broken away from.
Many countries have a region that has some secessionist movement (or has had one recently/could develop one) and most of those that don't have a neighbour or ally with such a region. It's against the interest of almost every government to establish the precedent of recognising independence that hasn't been permitted by the established legal authority.
Many countries have a region that has some secessionist movement (or has had one recently/could develop one) and most of those that don't have a neighbour or ally with such a region. It's against the interest of almost every government to establish the precedent of recognising independence that hasn't been permitted by the established legal authority.
Somalia has no established authority. It's a crisis that can be resolved in part with the recognition of Somaliland's independence. Once Somaliland's independence is recognized, Somalia Italiana will then require further intervention to form a functioning state.
Viewing Somalia as a country was the original problem. It should have been viewed a crisis that needed resolution. Just putting a governemnt in Mogadishu behind African troops and calling it a day was a failed approach to the problem.
Rumours is now politics? Somali over rate presidential powers, they think it's all some God like role, when really its like a captain role in a team, its not even the coach attributes.
America presidential powers don't exceed more then policy to service delivery on identified strategies by its institutional architects, their no change to the goal posts, maybe the strategy but never the framework.
As for recognising SL they would need to violate the UN and AU rules based order, which can lead to a can of worms opening up globally. They would need to disregard their regional allies Ethiopia and Kenya opinion.
Somaliland itself when analysed is a
with a lipstick 
on it. The fragility there between Isaaq alone which has mutated into cold war for 30 years is volatile and fragile at all times, even in the event of independence it could be another south Sudan and they have the hall marks of South Sudan rushed secession, fighting an evil north Sudan, got independence, neglected internal turmoil brewing, and voila you got a crime scene emerging. To much external focus and not enuff internal focus destroys any team.
Infact it would help Isaaq external enemies if given independence as they can begin land grabs as the shit fest unfolds.
America presidential powers don't exceed more then policy to service delivery on identified strategies by its institutional architects, their no change to the goal posts, maybe the strategy but never the framework.
As for recognising SL they would need to violate the UN and AU rules based order, which can lead to a can of worms opening up globally. They would need to disregard their regional allies Ethiopia and Kenya opinion.
Somaliland itself when analysed is a
with a lipstick on it. The fragility there between Isaaq alone which has mutated into cold war for 30 years is volatile and fragile at all times, even in the event of independence it could be another south Sudan and they have the hall marks of South Sudan rushed secession, fighting an evil north Sudan, got independence, neglected internal turmoil brewing, and voila you got a crime scene emerging. To much external focus and not enuff internal focus destroys any team.Infact it would help Isaaq external enemies if given independence as they can begin land grabs as the shit fest unfolds.
NordicSomali
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Nobody will recognize SL anytime soon because it would cause a domino effect of other places requesting independence, and there many of these kinds.
The political and territorial integrity isn't up for debate, those goal posts haven't been declared void or up for debate by any world power or UN as an option on the table.
The parameters are set, 1 Somalia, now PL realised this and the constraints we find ourselves externally, so it began its Federalism idea taking inspiration from @Kamaaludeen Al Reewin folks who suggested it in the 50s which fell on deaf ears(great visionary skills tho, way ahead of their time then and possibly even now). So I think consulting them is very much in our interest due to the capability they shown in the past when noone saw it in those times but the future honours. They could be well 100 years ahead in their vision skills even today.
Put simply Somali isn't being settled outside Somalia and any clan pursuing that well it hurts them not us.
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