Secessionists sign energy and mining agreement with UAE

Aurelian

Forza Somalia!
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I am sure that the FGS new about any deal UAE may be part of with any FMS. UAE supported the unity of Somalia when Ethiopia had MoU
 

Pastoralist

Dhib marku wah nokdo, Isku tiirsada
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I am sure that the FGS new about any deal UAE may be part of with any FMS. UAE supported the unity of Somalia when Ethiopia had MoU
No they didn’t brother, they were the ones who were going to build the 600mil$ port for Ethiopia on our land. And sent them many weapons shipments before and during our problems with them.

I don’t care what they said in a letter, actions speak louder than words.

Having UAE as an ally is like shooting yourself on the foot. They are only good for FMS. And even then they’re piece of crap that wanted Garacad port under themselves but Alhamdullilah it’s privately owned.
 
Which secessionists? kkkk

Jokes aside, I don't have a problem with regions developing economically, and making investments so their citizens have a better quality of life.

It's a risky strategy to wait for a competent central government to fund you adequately. Only god knows how long that could take.
 

Pastoralist

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It's a risky strategy to wait for a competent central government to fund you adequately. Only god knows how long that could take.
This is true, however at what point do you consider it to be selling yourself out. Bihi is selling out a base and navy to Ethiopia, making you guys the same as AMISOM. It would be cool if the deals were only to the states benefits, but ones like berbera are predatory.
 
This is true, however at what point do you consider it to be selling yourself out. Bihi is selling out a base and navy to Ethiopia, making you guys the same as AMISOM. It would be cool if the deals were only to the states benefits, but ones like berbera are predatory.
The Ethiopia deal is stupid. It's not based on sound reasoning but emotion tbh. I'm not talking about that type of deal-making. Hopefully that falls through.

Developing sectors like mining and energy would be a win -win for the region + investors. Locals get jobs + better standard of living, gov gets taxes, and investors get returns. In the best case scenario, a developing energy sector could lead to industrialisation. This is a long way off, but that potential is why I support deals like this.
 

Mohmed

"For sale: Baby shoes, never worn."
Somalia's 1 out of the 5 tribal states, and SL is a goldmine in investment opportunities. I wondered why there hasn't been an influx of foreigners flocking to this part of the world and making easy money. There are many industries that are up for grabs.
 

Itsnotthateasy

Huh?
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Somalia's 1 out of the 5 tribal states, and SL is a goldmine in investment opportunities. I wondered why there hasn't been an influx of foreigners flocking to this part of the world and making easy money. There are many industries that are up for grabs.

SL for the time being is considered part of the statelessness but I think the next total collapse is the time we break free and get all those things.
 
It happens every thirty years.
We are not Ethiopia. I don’t get how you’re trying to use the same argument used upon them.
This is the 1st Government structure after the Military Regime, and we have SL not complying for 30 years in my opinion had Goojacade happened 10 years ago.
The federalist model & the constitution would’ve already been agreed upon.
It collapses every thirty years” is a flat out lie.
SL for the time being is considered part of the statelessness but I think the next total collapse is the time we break free and get all those things.
You working overtime Brother, How much does SL CBB bot farm pay ?
 

Itsnotthateasy

Huh?
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We are not Ethiopia. I don’t get how you’re trying to use the same argument used upon them.
This is the 2nd Government structure after Military Regime, and we have SL not complying for 30 years in my opinion had Goojacade happened 10 years ago.
The federalist model & the constitution would’ve already been agreed upon.
It collapses every thirty years” is a flat out lie.

You working overtime Brother, How much does SL CBB bot farm pay ?

Not complying? Smell the coffee you can't enforce compliance. You tried once and the whole state collapsed. Mogadishu has nothing that we want. We can find work arounds to practically everything.

The point I was making about the thirty years is that HSM is trying the same thing now and it could very well lead to state collapse part two and we won't really be a part of it. It will be Puntland secession or the political instability caused by the centralism/regionalism rift.
 

johnsepei5

Head of Somalia freemasonry branch
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The main issue UAE has with Somalia is its Ports.
Somalia’s ports would take traffic from their ports, so far they have acquired kismayo,bosaso and Berbera ports
 
SL for the time being is considered part of the statelessness but I think the next total collapse is the time we break free and get all those things.
There’s not ever going to be a collapse, you lost your chance every major qabil is invested in their federal state. There will never be a central government but they will all come to a table and work together
 

johnsepei5

Head of Somalia freemasonry branch
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Somalia's 1 out of the 5 tribal states, and SL is a goldmine in investment opportunities. I wondered why there hasn't been an influx of foreigners flocking to this part of the world and making easy money. There are many industries that are up for grabs.
There is two things investors look closely at
1.Infrastructure
2.security

Somaliland lacks in both departments,I’m not saying it’s not safe,but the question is for how long? No region in Somalia is politically stable
 

Itsnotthateasy

Huh?
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There’s not ever going to be a collapse, you lost your chance every major qabil is invested in their federal state. There will never be a central government but they will all come to a table and work together

If every qabil was invested in it why is the FGS still stuck in the capital. There is a political civil war going on and one side is going to have to lose.

As for SL, can this weakened FGS ever exert its authority again? Nope too corrupt and too weak. Can't trick SL into a shitty deal with it either so.. just wasting everyones time.

This federal system is tyranny of the minority and a totally shitty deal for Somaliland lol. SL on par with with one city of SL? Some dreamers in Garowe. This is what I think people are trying to dupe Somaliland into accepting. If they had two brain cells they would realize it's a pipe dream.
 
The main issue UAE has with Somalia is its Ports.
Somalia’s ports would take traffic from their ports, so far they have acquired kismayo,bosaso and Berbera ports
How will balkanazing Somalia prevent somalis from the breakaway states from competing? Why doesn't Saudi, Djibouti Eritrea, Qatar, Oman and Bahrain take traffic from their ports?
 
If every qabil was invested in it why is the FGS still stuck in the capital. There is a political civil war going on and one side is going to have to lose.

As for SL, can this weakened FGS ever exert its authority again? Nope too corrupt and too weak. Can't trick SL into a shitty deal with it either so.. just wasting everyones time.

This federal system is tyranny of the minority and a totally shitty deal for Somaliland lol. SL on par with with one city of SL? Some dreamers in Garowe. This is what I think people are trying to dupe Somaliland into accepting. If they had two brain cells they would realize it's a pipe dream.
I don’t think you understand federal, the fgs are stuck in Mogadishu cuz it’s not a central government. When all those federal states come to Mogadishu and beg for their international donations they are not the independent state you think they are.
 

Itsnotthateasy

Huh?
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I don’t think you understand federal, the fgs are stuck in Mogadishu cuz it’s not a central government. When all those federal states come to Mogadishu and beg for their international donations they are not the independent state you think they are.

What you have is autonomous states pretending to be federal because they are scared of a central governement. The central governemnt is the FGS so i'm not sure what you are talking about.

What do these federal member states contribute to the FGS?


There isn't really a system at all because no one has agreed on one. It's just a way to tap into the FGS aid network directly to get a fair share.

It's not a system to manage a country. You couldn't even form a plan if everyone is saying me first. SScfirst, Puntland First, Jubbaland first, but then who is really first? You see what I'm getting at?

It's just a way for minority groups to create chaos and gridlock and stop the formation of a functional unitary state. Would Berbera port or corridor ever be built if every region or city demanded an equal share of development? Would you ever build a country like this? Obvious no.

Some of these adminstrations are so small they probably can't even fund themselves without government support. Hence dysfunctional. The system is a non-starter.
 
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