Senator Farole Predicts A National Civil War Over Jubaland Interference

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This is definitely going to trigger a national civil war with HSM interference in JL election. It's not so much about HSM 1m1v which is.the jambal used that is the issue, it's the equation which it reports to that disturbs Darods.

Somalis assume everything is transactional such as I want extension and 1m1v and if u refuse then its war or horgal.used.

But deeper down Darod elites from siyad Era know transactional interest is minimal to the over all clan goals in the equation which is like centralise the south which Isaaq leaders demand of HSM and even IOG, that's called a strategical clan objectives. Villa Somalia demands SL to centralize the north. The rest is jambals in between to reach those goals.

Darod clans who worked in siyad govt and elites are aware and update their local.leaders. We also update them shabab and icu are jambals to discredit Federalism to help usher in HSM politics, SNM politics, or irir politics if they don't get what they want.

Many Somalis who don't have govt experience don't know about transactional vs strategical objectives. I don't blame them either they didn't have much exposure inside Siyad govt and just were civilians who fled.
 
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Only Darods who are considered nacas by siyad elite darod of various clans, they look down on them, they report or entertain daily events which even the Greek philosopher said anyone who focuses on daily events is an average mind. The intelligent focus on ideas behind events as all events report to grander ideas.

We know the ideas behind all Somali events whether it's warlords, secession, centralism, shabab. I'm lucky I'm.exposed to a.generation who worked in.govt of siyad which the average clown who reports on daily events didn't.

They simply report to every daily event you see in Somalia is USC told to centralize the south so the first war is JL, then PL with help.from SL once they reach Yoocade. They place terrorists in PL mountains and JL juba dhexe as reinforcements.

Shabab and ICU all are centralist with 1 amir or 1 big court in Hamar and.work to discredit.federalism.

That's why me a child of siyad generation diplomats don't speak to Somalis even in my clan or other clan, as we are given Intel constantly as we know their from siyad generation the current leaders who are not the 1% who passed their national.exams but the second rates so we already know what their moves are and goals, their like the second rates like HSM who didnt pass his national exam niyahow, u think he can fool.us families who did? We know where it leads and ends also.

We know how their merging clan local interests with islamists in Qatar, Turkey thru abdiqasim salat retired in egypt the homeland of islamists ikhwaan who use politicians, charities, and terrorists globally in Sunni countries which is 3 sides to one coin, some say 5 sides to one coin as they do take over universities and economic lifelines like bakaraha and bosaso port.

We know their ultimate goal is a jihad on Europe and America and use whatever local clan interest or ethnic group in Sunni nations to achieve it.
 
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I.mean Somalis don't u see how @Libaax-Joore hates me and me and him diverge on 4 men to this guy.


Listen u can't fool siyad diplomats or their kids who have direct Intel on moves to be made by current somali leaders who are the second rates who failed national exams under siyad or are scholarship student generations like Deni group who follow in previous generations footstep.

I'm warning u guys the avg Somali who fled as citizens with their siyad govt their real.govt or else u wouldn't flee with him, I'm warning u don't waste time withhouseholds who had siyad govt employees and who had kids, they look down on you.

Don't worry @cow @Dalalos_ibn_Adali and all the marehans who love siyad due to reer diinimo which even we know but what vindicates you is they all fled with siyad too and his horgals my family. We are their govt and they know it deep down just won't tell u cause they feel surrendering to us.

We shall erect a Mohamed Siyad Barre statue who helped so.many Somalis and brought together nation wide the best on merit unfortunately the best on merit are in exile and the second rates rule the land and as u can see the outcomes 91 to 2024 speaks for itself.

That's what happens to all nations who lose their elite in exile or destroyed as we saw in Rwanda and Tutsi who the great Hutu surrendered to Paul Kagame and said make us great, look at saudi and khaleej who lost their elites Egypt, Iraq Syria and that was calculated for those intentions.

@Libaax-Joore he says your bire qaate horgal he extremely hates siyad barre generation govt workers or the kids they produce and influence about abbe siyad greatness but then we look at him and say if I or siyad isn't your best people why are u sitting here in exile in the west with me, wallahi my father wuu ka kaca meesha and says I'll only see u when your dead and ill attend your funeral for tolnimo lakin aduunyo isma naqano ileeen is fahmi Wayne.
 
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Libaax-Joore

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I.mean Somalis don't u see how @Libaax-Joore hates me and me and him diverge on 4 men to this guy.


Listen u can't fool siyad diplomats or their kids who have direct Intel on moves to be made by current somali leaders who are the second rates who failed national exams under siyad or are scholarship student generations like Deni group who follow in previous generations footstep.

I'm warning u guys the avg Somali who fled as citizens with their siyad govt their real.govt or else u wouldn't flee with him, I'm warning u don't waste time withhouseholds who had siyad govt employees and who had kids, they look down on you.

Don't worry @cow @Dalalos_ibn_Adali and all the marehans who love siyad due to reer diinimo which even we know but what vindicates you is they all fled with siyad too and his horgals my family. We are their govt and they know it deep down just won't tell u cause they feel surrendering to us.

We shall erect a Mohamed Siyad Barre statue who helped so.many Somalis and brought together nation wide the best on merit unfortunately the best on merit are in exile and the second rates rule the land and as u can see the outcomes 91 to 2024 speaks for itself.

That's what happens to all nations who lose their elite in exile or destroyed as we saw in Rwanda and Tutsi who the great Hutu surrendered to Paul Kagame and said make us great, look at saudi and khaleej who lost their elites Egypt, Iraq Syria and that was calculated for those intentions.

@Libaax-Joore he says your bire qaate horgal he extremely hates siyad barre generation govt workers or the kids they produce and influence about abbe siyad greatness but then we look at him and say if I or siyad isn't your best people why are u sitting here in exile in the west with me, wallahi my father wuu ka kaca meesha and says I'll only see u when your dead and ill attend your funeral for tolnimo lakin aduunyo isma naqano ileeen is fahmi Wayne.
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@DR OSMAN


Dr. Osman i’m a proud puntlander and I apprecieate your knowledge. I also want to believe in somalinimo and Somaliweeyn but we are far far away from that right now. But when it comes to Puntland I believe there is almost no limits on what we can achieve and believe that Allah has blessed us in so many ways. But there is one thing that bothers me. In order for us to develop and have forreign investors and have people choose Puntland let's over Qatar or Kenya then we need the best security in the horn of africa if not africa.
I’m not comparing us to them as of right.
But we do potentially have same natural recources as then and our land is not a dessert.

But I believe our borders are almost impossible to secure. We have a very long border on the south and norh west. We also have a flat land that so any threat can enter Puntland without the need of using border controlled roads.

The reason why border security matters is because we are not like the gulf countries who don't border unstable country (besides Saudi bordering yemen) and most importantly the have natural bordering mountains to yemen. Look at it this way - they would never be where they are today if they didn’t have stable neighbours and good security.



So my questions are: How would you deal with We also have too many enemies for us to deal with all them once.

1.Somaliland who basically want to occopy a large part of constitutional Puntland. And they will stop at nothing to achieve that. I believe part of that is us (MJ) as we don’t want give up the presedency.
And that we have not fought and invested enough on dhulbahante land.

2. Moqdisho. They want to centralise power and have south and somaliland share power between them. Just look at what Hassan sheik is trying to do with Jubbaland.

3. Ethiopia. No need to specify here.

4. USA and the west.

5. The Gulf countries. They use Somalia in proxy wars and they buy our ports just so we can’t use them. We potentially have oil and we have ports in strategic locations. This things are proven facts.

6. Kenya. Somali people have invested a lot of money in kenya. They want somali money in kenya and not in a stable somalia.
Somali people are one the people who most loyal to their culture and they would even choose a developing somalia over Kenya if the conditions where right. Don’t even get me started on NFD.



So how would you deal with Puntland and our border security?
I would have some type of special federal solution with the rest of somalia.

Can you answer this question and also how you would deal with the Somaliland disputed border and all our other enemies?

I also don’t think SCC/Khatumo is a good idea when our unity is one most natural unities you can find in Somalia.
It just makes weaker diveded and all our enemies listed above can easily use us against one another.
Plus the south had never any intentions in officialy recognizing SCC/Khatumo as FMS.

It would not matter how much development we make unless we deal with our border issue which is our achilles heel.

Sorry for my long post and for my english.
I would appreciate a detail answer.
 
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Princess Diana will arrest ahmed cadde ina yustur cabdi and take him to ina mama sabrina suuban in qaraxdisho according to hutu logic
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I heard horgaal asad butaano is searching to arrest hassan firimbi after he punched bomdisho police man which come under his authority us the police chief of 30 meter aminson bunker in bombdisho 😂 hassan firimbi took a flight to kismayo right after he punched powerless bombdisho police inside kangaroo 🦘 parliament 😂 asad butaano is begging hassan gurgurte to fire marxum xamze since beesha absame stab him in the back and came out against his ambition of being dictator of somalia like dictator Ismail omar gelle or his masters dictator of Uganda Yoweri Museveni😂😂 Asad butaano is sayıng beesha bah dir and burhaan maryo badane will forever loyal to you please name me prime minister I will be more yes man than marxumka was🤡baalo ku ciyaadhe war wuxu qadiyad xuma o sharaf darana
 
I heard horgaal asad butaano is searching to arrest hassan firimbi after he punched bomdisho police man which come under his authority us the police chief of 30 meter aminson bunker in bombdisho 😂 hassan firimbi took a flight to kismayo right after he punched powerless bombdisho police inside kangaroo 🦘 parliament 😂 asad butaano is begging hassan gurgurte to fire marxum xamze since beesha absame stab him in the back and came out against his ambition of being dictator of somalia like dictator Ismail omar gelle or his masters dictator of Uganda Yoweri Museveni😂😂 Asad butaano is sayıng beesha bah dir and burhaan maryo badane will forever loyal to you please name me prime minister I will be more yes man than marxumka was🤡baalo ku ciyaadhe war wuxu qadiyad xuma o sharaf darana
Xassan Firimbi is in Xamar he is in Sheekh Shariifs house. He told him you did a good job, i will protect you from Princess Diana, she can't get to you in my house. Lady Diana waa wareertay
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@DR OSMAN horgaladi majerteen gurgurte iyo horgalada majerteen afweyne o bire qaate abaha ka tirsana is same the only difference is past and present 😂😂 nin shaqsi aya lo nikinaaya iyado qaranimadi iyo jiritanki umada somaliyeed lagu ciyaarayo 🤡 bire qaate ditoore @DR OSMAN asago leh my father was the biggest horgal of afweyne before he was horgaal he was poor geeljire in nugaal and the reason me and my father are in Australia is because of him nacalad kuğu dacdhey waxa u walatey wa xaranti umada somaliyeed 21 saano add cuneesen 😂😂 I lived in kismayo the first 5 years of my life the average somali didn’t have nothing we didn’t even have a tab water we used to drink salty well water we didn’t see nolol raxa leh until we moved to refuge camp in kenya 1991 were we had tab water, food all kind, all type of clothes and free education dugsi and school…. If kismayo the third capital of somalia after hargeisa was shithole what u expect other village and towns 🤡part of somalia 🇸🇴 is better of today than it was afweyne 21 years Karl Marxism rule😂 the man afweyne worship and fallowed him like the dog he was 😂 was atheist🤣
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Bire qaate ditoore @DR OSMAN my son libaax joore jr will be future 100 dhuudo 100 u wa 🦁🦁 territorial integrity ayu difacan dona not like you who warship atheist afweyne who died 30 years ago saying if it wasn’t him this ,that and praising him like his ur lord 😂
 
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There won't be a civil war. Kismaayo will fall very easily and reer Kismaayo will celebrate the fall of the evil dictator madoobe
But beesha somalida ugu horgalada badan ee ilko yar still won’t be emancipated. Wake the f*ck up waryaa
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Libaax-Joore

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There won't be a civil war. Kismaayo will fall very easily and reer Kismaayo will celebrate the fall of the evil dictator madoobe
Kismayo is forever beesha ogaden and Ahmed madowe, today they are so powerful even the world solely superpower USA 🇺🇸 is allied of beesha ogaden and Ahmed madowe in Jubaland
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