Sheikh Sharif And Farmajo Tried To Exert Pressure On Puntland

[DR OSMAN]

 

[DR OSMAN]

I urge.PL never tanasul on federation for petty projects bribes, once u do, to reverse it will.be much harder. You see the disaster where the fgs controls or influences and u see how backwards they are.

 

[FuadTuur]

Puntland ought to acknowledge that a majority of Somalis are disinterested or ignorant about federalism. Anyone mentioning or advocating for Federalism are 9 times out of 10 from PL. This suggests that others tend to overlook the idea. Villa Somalia's presidents will almost certainly support "Centralized Federalism," which runs counter to Puntland's desire for a decentralized government. Centralized Federalism seems more like a centralized state in Somalia than it does in the United States, where it is a structure that operates effectively in society. Puntland may decide to form a confederation or modify its policies in response to this circumstance. The way things are done now is and stagnant and Madhalays.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Mac Sonkor for MJs, dad aan dantooda aqoon. I would never have welcomed Sharmaajo when he was first elected, but people will call me extreme for seeing through some people.

The day we move away from bullshit (myth) lineage, and move towards finding allies that share our political leanings, will be a blessed day.

 

[MuseGuud]

I urge.PL never tanasul on federation for petty projects bribes, once u do, to reverse it will.be much harder. You see the disaster where the fgs controls or influences and u see how backwards they are.

It's Hybrid federalism or we become like Hongkong. If the other states can't manage their internal affairs without the SFG then that shouldn't mean PL has to act like them. Collective punishment will not work for us.

 

[MuseGuud]

Mac Sonkor for MJs, dad aan dantooda aqoon. I would never have welcomed Sharmaajo when he was first elected, but people will call me extreme for seeing through some people.

The day we move away from bullshit (myth) lineage, and move towards finding allies that share our political leanings, will be a blessed day.

Our very own PL traitors are the worst believing in this Somalinimo crap, they believe we must destroy PL for Somalia to flourish & survive.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Our very own PL traitors are the worst believing in this Somalinimo crap, they believe we must destroy PL for Somalia to flourish & survive.

There is something worse than Somalinimo that's plaguing us, it's called 4.5 clan power-sharing and political Daaroodism. We must first dismantle 4.5 and focus on autonomy for Puntland. Like you said, it's not our fault that other 'states' cannot lift their own weight.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

There is something worse than Somalinimo that's plaguing us, it's called 4.5 clan power-sharing and political Daaroodism. We must first dismantle 4.5 and focus on autonomy for Puntland. Like you said, it's not our fault that other 'states' cannot lift their own weight.

Political daaroodism doesn’t exist at all there are different viewpoints

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

I think the national government needs to reform and fix itself and tackle the puntland issue, They need to split up and redraw all the current states into smaller regions. Also they should make official plans for ogaden aswell and the rest and just see as their territory. Then you can devolve some powers to the smaller state, its a win-win. No single state has to much power to challenge the national government. I mean I kinda do understand puntland people right now, theres no way in hell Id give any authority to the current national government. Which begs the question, why do they support it?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Political daaroodism doesn’t exist at all there are different viewpoints

Well, this should be reflected in the 4.5 seat sharing system.

 

[DR OSMAN]

It's Hybrid federalism or we become like Hongkong. If the other states can't manage their internal affairs without the SFG then that shouldn't mean PL has to act like them. Collective punishment will not work for us.

that's why I don't support confederation because it's like federalism u need to get the nation to agree with it, where as a hybrid federalism we can be like Hong Kong status, with our own status, separate system and relationship with somalia and the South can be its own mainland under their system like China.

Two system one nation model worked for china and hong Kong and it can work for puntland and somalia and there no international issue like violating somalia sovereignty.

 

[MuseGuud]

that's why I don't support confederation because it's like federalism u need to get the nation to agree with it, where as a hybrid federalism we can be like Hong Kong status, with our own status, separate system and relationship with somalia and the South can be its own mainland under their system like China.

Two system one nation model worked for china and hong Kong and it can work for puntland and somalia and there no international issue like violating somalia sovereignty.

We better capitalize on HSM's greed for changing the constitution, I don't want PL kowtowing and begging to work with the next president. This narrative that we want a shitty PM seat from HAG irks me. From today on we should be the new Hongkong, Our autonomy has been eroding since 2015.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I think the national government needs to reform and fix itself and tackle the puntland issue, They need to split up and redraw all the current states into smaller regions. Also they should make official plans for ogaden aswell and the rest and just see as their territory. Then you can devolve some powers to the smaller state, its a win-win. No single state has to much power to challenge the national government. I mean I kinda do understand puntland people right now, theres no way in hell Id give any authority to the current national government. Which begs the question, why do they support it?

The problem is hawiye who want to govern the whole nation under a siyad barre model only because they sit in the capital and thats just going to extend the conflict as we all fight for power wallahi hamar won't be at peace but the conflict will escalate there as all Somalis rush in the capital and cause problems so it's not even in their interest long term but hawiye are never forward thinking as they never bring national solutions and always plays defence so they think anything darod proposes is evil by default and they need to oppose it even if they don't sit down and debate it thru.

The other thing I tell my hawiye people is stop the empty talks, gentleman agreements, and promises because it won't get u far those outdated siyad barre tactics, today ppl want to see proof its called evidence based politics, markay hamar barwaaqo uu eekaato you can negioate your ideas more strongly and even get international support and I'm sure PL will tanasul for whatever you want because evidence is mighty politics but till then keep your head down and focus on yourselves and build up your evidence thats your politics leads to better outcomes for somalis not just empty talk and promises or siyad barre copy cat.or god forbid isbaaro on international aid to exert pressure on regions thats copying aideed lame humanitarian isbaaro on baydhabo.

I'm sure what i said represents the view of all puntites citizens and isnt me dano hoose leh as you accuse of deni.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

In conventional conflict resolution, Sh Sharif explains attempts being made, how HSM is the culprit, and not an honest broker.

The outcome: HSM is now engaging the UK seeking mediation, and most likely shall be spending the next 16 months chasing his tail.

Yet, on the PL front, the ship has sailed, and this is what Juxa, PL Interior Minister in charge of its political direction posted in July.

Juxa Farah @FarahJuxa Jul 23, 2024
#PUNTLAND #DECIDES:
Somalia with three different governance structures and narratives:
#Puntland: Federalist (previous)
#Somaliland: separatist/secessionist
#South Somalia: Centralist

#Confederation can bring Somalia together.

 

[MuseGuud]

In conventional conflict resolution, Sh Sharif explains attempts being made, how HSM is the culprit, and not an honest broker.

The outcome: HSM is now engaging the UK seeking mediation, and most likely shall be spending the next 16 months chasing his tail.

Yet, on the PL front, the ship has sailed, and this is what Juxa, PL Interior Minister in charge of its political direction posted in July.

Juxa Farah @FarahJuxa Jul 23, 2024
#PUNTLAND #DECIDES:
Somalia with three different governance structures and narratives:
#Puntland: Federalist (previous)
#Somaliland: separatist/secessionist
#South Somalia: Centralist

#Confederation can bring Somalia together.

The FGS is not going to change their position, whichever president comes will always try to centralize power destroy PL's semi-autonomous status. I'm glad HSM's is cutting our aid and pulling all the stops, hopefully Puntlanders will wake up and the smell the coffee. It's Too bad we have Xamar bound politicians like Deni.

They asked Farole if he was going to run for president in 2012 he laughed and said "I'm already president"
that's the type of ideology we need, Not this main character syndrome thinking we can save Somalia.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The FGS is not going to change their position, whichever president comes will always try to centralize power destroy PL's semi-autonomous status. I'm glad HSM's is cutting our aid and pulling all the stops, hopefully Puntlanders will wake up and the smell the coffee. It's Too bad we have Xamar bound politicians like Deni.

They asked Farole if he was going to run for president in 2012 he laughed and said "I'm already president"
that's the type of ideology we need, Not this main character syndrome thinking we can save Somalia.

The only aid the federal govt controls, is world bank and African development bank, I'm sure puntites can live without it to preserve our political policy and autonomy, tell hsm copying aideed pathetic baydhabo humanitarian isbaaro tactics on other people money will only get him what aideed outcome was and that's jack shit, wallahi it's sad he is inspired by and follows such a person whose people and region today la wada yaqan meeshay dalka ka joggan.

 

[MuseGuud]

The only aid the federal govt controls, is world bank and African development bank, I'm sure puntites can live without it to preserve our political policy and autonomy, tell hsm copying aideed pathetic baydhabo humanitarian isbaaro tactics on other people money will only get him what aideed outcome was and that's jack shit, wallahi it's sad he is inspired by and follows such a person whose people and region today la wada yaqan meeshay dalka ka joggan.

Not only HSM but many of them like Farah Abdulqadir, Abshir Bukhaari, Sanbalooshe and Fiqi all look up to Aideed.
PL politics really needs to taught in schools, The public needs to understand what the SFG is trying to pull. PL government is horrific when it comes to media and PR. For example

Twitter - Radiodaljir
VILLA SOMALIA FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO DISMANTLE FEDERALISM AS THE FGS MINISTRY OF PUBLIC WORKS BECOMES THE LATEST AFTER MINISTRY OF EDUCATION THAT TRIES TO TAKEOVER MANAGEMENT OF PUNTLAND ROAD REHABILITATION WORKS Villa Somalia continues its unfettered and unconstitutional policy of attempting to slowly dismantle federalism in Somalia. The latest attempt comes from the FGS Ministry of Public Works publishing of an advertising tender notice for the rehabilitation of the Galkayo-Xarfo Road Project financed by the EU and the African Development Bank. However, Puntland Minister of Public Works stood firm against this latest Villa Somalia transgression against Somalia's Federal Member State of Puntland and reminded
@TheVillaSomalia
that the implementation, coordination and recruitment for the project is for Puntland to decide not Villa Somalia. Minister Farah Awad Jama of Puntland added that project donor funds should also follow through Puntland State Bank. Previously, Minister Farah Abdikadir of the FGS Ministry of Education was the first Minister who blocked Global Partnership for Education (GPE) funds for Puntland while at the same time with no questions asked releasing GPE funds for the separatist
@musebiihi
regime of Somaliland. Minister Farah Abdikadir, in violation of the Federal Constitution, made it clear to Puntland that he is committed to hire and then send teachers from the FGS Ministry of Education to Puntland. "How can I talk to Puntland when they won't allow my teachers enter Puntland," Minister Farah Abdikadir stated at last week's parliamentary hearing on education. We reached out to MP Abib
@MPDrAbib
, who has been relentless in his advocacy for the rights of the Federal Member States, to explain what this latest Villa Somalia attempt means. On Puntland road rehabilitation tender notice, MP Abib explained, "Regarding the Road Infrastructure Program (RIP), I concur with the State Minister of Public Works of the Federal Member State of Puntland that it is the full responsibility of the Federal Member State to manage the RIP project within Puntland State, not the Federal Ministry of Public Works. It is extremely strange that the Federal Minister of Public Works gave a blank check to the Hargeisa Administration, which is against the unity of our country, while simultaneously violating the separation of federal and state duties as clearly defined in our draft constitution, particularly in Articles 52 and 54." MP Abib concluded, "I believe all Federal Ministries must be trained on how to delegate internationally donor funded projects, as Somalia is a Federal Republic."