Should isolationism policy continue?

[Gadhwayne]

SL elite have shut themselves out of negotiating with Southerners over a government that CLAIMS SL territory. So, DirtyWoqoyi leaders, who are fugitives in the North, have been been selling their FGS/SouthernGovernment votes and making money in a dangerous but lucrative hussle. Was SL isolationist policy wise and should it continue?

No negative qabyaalad

 

[Atoore]

This um.... this didn’t make sense?

 

[Tukraq]

no should have stayed in union once they realized secession was impossible and tried to get there own president in or something

 

[Gadhwayne]

This um.... this didn’t make sense?

Should the idiots in SL

1. continue current policy of ISOLATIONISM
2. Work with current political actors of the south under current unfair 4.5 formula
3. Just sponsor some Southern factions, possibly "reunite" with said Southern factions plus others, then declare we are the NEW SoomaaliRepublic, making claims against FGS just like FGS claims the North

no should have stayed in union once they realized secession was impossible and tried to get there own president in or something

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Sland should stop chewing khat first

 

[Odkac WRLD]

If I was SLand, I would probably consolidate as much power as I could before even talking about reuniting.

this is all a political game, i personally believe they will come back but only on THEIR terms: which means a sweet deal with # of seats, land, etc.

 

[Atoore]

1. continue current policy of ISOLATIONISM
2. Work with current political actors of the south under current unfair 4.5 formula
3. Just sponsor some Southern factions, possibly "reunite" with said Southern factions plus others, then declare we are the NEW SoomaaliRepublic, making claims against FGS just like FGS claims the North

Number 3 is impossible Somalia waa hal plus 4.5 system won’t stay forever so number 2

 

[Karim]

If I was SLand, I would probably consolidate as much power as I could before even talking about reuniting.

this is all a political game, i personally believe they will come back but only on THEIR terms: which means a sweet deal with # of seats, land, etc.

Terms?!! 4 out of 5 Major clans in the North endorse unity. The lone sick man in the North has a population of less than 1.7M, The nation is 15+M too. Negotiation means overriding the rest and catering to the demands of the sick man. Instead of negotiating, we should be further isolating the sick man by creating new Federal States in the North squashing his secessionist dream, such intelligent policies will eventually force him to participate the national elections OR fell off hard.

 

[shum33]

Terms?!! 4 out of 5 Major clans in the North endorse unity. The lone sick man in the North has a population of less than 1.7M, The nation is 15+M too. Negotiation means overriding the rest and catering to the demands of the sick man. Instead of negotiating, we should be further isolating the sick man by creating new Federal States in the North squashing his secessionist dream, such intelligent policies will eventually force him to participate the national elections OR fell off hard.

hehehe,isaaq are bigger than daroods in somalia+somaliland and HY alone is bigger than dhulo and warsan
lone sick man kullah learn hstory before speaking from your cuqdad ridden ass

 

[Karim]

hehehe,isaaq are bigger than daroods in somalia+somaliland and HY alone is bigger than dhulo and warsan
lone sick man kullah learn hstory before speaking from your cuqdad ridden ass

According to the UNFPA report of 2014, your Whole sick tribe aka Isaaq is mere 1.8M and I'm not suppressing the numbers.

The Total population of Somaliland including Northern Darood tribes is less than 3.5M lmao while Puntland excluding Northern Darood tribes equals to 1.7M according to UNFPA 2014 report. Kkkkkkk

3.5M minus significant populations of Dir tribes like Samaroon and Cisse (1M) minus 800k (I'm trying to be honest) of Northern Darod tribes that's left with mere 1.8M Isaaq population within the Somaliland borders. Can you refute that?!

 

[Gadhwayne]

hehehe,isaaq are bigger than daroods in somalia+somaliland and HY alone is bigger than dhulo and warsan
lone sick man kullah learn hstory before speaking from your cuqdad ridden ass
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No real census has ever been published. Afweyne may have hidden the results of a census

According to the UNFPA report of 2014, your Whole sick tribe aka Isaaq is mere 1.8M and I'm not suppressing the numbers.

The Total population of Somaliland including Northern Darood tribes is less than 3.5M lmao while Puntland excluding Northern Darood tribes equals to 1.7M according to UNFPA 2014 report. Kkkkkkk

3.5M minus significant populations of Dir tribes like Samaroon and Cisse (1M) minus 800k (I'm trying to be honest) of Northern Darod tribes that's left with mere 1.8M Isaaq population within the Somaliland borders. Can you refute that?!

We can actually pretend Isaaq is a minority in the North, even under 1 million. The reality on the ground is SL flag BAA SUDHAN Zeeylac and Boorama to LaasCaanood. The flag has been there most of the time since 1991

Number 3 is impossible Somalia waa hal plus 4.5 system won’t stay forever so number 2

Number 2 already happened. Remember CabdillahiYuusuf vs ARS and ShiikhShariif. They ended up combining parliaments, half appointed from ARS. The world will see a functional government that operayes in both North and south vs FGS needing UN troops to stay alive in a few blocks

Terms?!! 4 out of 5 Major clans in the North endorse unity. The lone sick man in the North has a population of less than 1.7M, The nation is 15+M too. Negotiation means overriding the rest and catering to the demands of the sick man. Instead of negotiating, we should be further isolating the sick man by creating new Federal States in the North squashing his secessionist dream, such intelligent policies will eventually force him to participate the national elections OR fell off hard.

SL will sponsor proSL factions and miliarily ensure they defeat any antiSL faction. The South may also antagonize ALL Isaaq, including unionist Isaaq who wont fight against SL either

 

[shum33]

According to the UNFPA report of 2014, your Whole sick tribe aka Isaaq is mere 1.8M and I'm not suppressing the numbers.

The Total population of Somaliland including Northern Darood tribes is less than 3.5M lmao while Puntland excluding Northern Darood tribes equals to 1.7M according to UNFPA 2014 report. Kkkkkkk

3.5M minus significant populations of Dir tribes like Samaroon and Cisse (1M) minus 800k (I'm trying to be honest) of Northern Darod tribes that's left with mere 1.8M Isaaq population within the Somaliland borders. Can you refute that?!

that 2014 UNFPA report wasn't clan based like the one they use to do during the colonial time you retard.
No region mentioned in that data showed clan.The only real census done based on qabil was during the colonial times. The latest before independence i already posted the filthy barbarians are in third place. We own your asses in majeertania and we always did

 

[shum33]

No real census has ever been published. Afweyne may have hidden the results of a census

Bro those were pre kacaan census done in italiano somalia and somaliland

 

[Karim]

that 2014 UNFPA report wasn't clan based like the one they use to do during the colonial time you retard.
No region mentioned in that data showed clan.The only real census done based on qabil was during the colonial times. The latest before independence i already posted the filthy barbarians are in third place. We own your asses in majeertania and we always did

Kkkkkkkk multiple census and estimations have been done over the years especially the UN and almost all of them are similar.

Colonialists always boost the numbers of their loyal subjects, they had to reward you for being basically their faithful foot soldiers. Not to mention it was published 80 years ago and the fact that you think an 80 year old survey is valid makes me wanna puke.

Gracefully make peace with your laangaab status. No need to fight it.

 

[Gadhwayne]

Kkkkkkkk multiple census and estimations have been done over the years especially the UN and almost all of them are similar.

Colonialists always boost the numbers of their loyal subjects, they had to reward you for being basically their faithful foot soldiers. Not to mention it was published 80 years ago and the fact that you think an 80 year old survey is valid makes me wanna puke.

Gracefully make peace with your laangaab status. No need to fight it.

1960 elections. Let's just use that. 3 major parties. ALL nonIsaaq supported USP. USP got abou 15%

But it does not matter. Isaaq will take laangaab status if Afweyne supporters admit they lost to SNM despite foreign mercenaries and foreign CAYDH for Afweyne's promise to join Masiixis in prayer to Ciisa caleyhi salaam. Do you admit that the Isaaq who are a MINORITY has pacified the MAJORITY who are DhabarMacaan/Warsengeli and Dhulbahante?

 

[shum33]

Kkkkkkkk multiple census and estimations have been done over the years especially the UN and almost all of them are similar.

Colonialists always boost the numbers of their loyal subjects, they had to reward you for being basically their faithful foot soldiers. Not to mention it was published 80 years ago and the fact that you think an 80 year old survey is valid makes me wanna puke.

Gracefully make peace with your laangaab status. No need to fight it.

Again retard the census was not clan based.When the census was clan based you were 3rd place and your italian masters didn’t reward you even though you gave them aisha boqoor,fadumo ali and many more.Instead they cucked you and made you work in salt mines

 

[Karim]

1960 elections. Let's just use that. 3 major parties. ALL nonIsaaq supported USP. USP got abou 15%

But it does not matter. Isaaq will take laangaab status if Afweyne supporters admit they lost to SNM despite foreign mercenaries and foreign CAYDH for Afweyne's promise to join Masiixis in prayer to Ciisa caleyhi salaam.

This quote makes me think you're a low IQ individual since you couldn't possibly grasp the fact that SSDF initiated the armed rebellions against Siad Barre. You're also accusing Siad Barre of using foreign mercenaries when Ethiopia was funding your militias fighting Siad Barre. What a low hypocrite individual you are. As Daroods, we operate and function as individual sub clans, we have different political and economical aspirations, also Not all of us supported the mad man Siad Barre, seems like you're confusing us with your laangaab Isaaq clan.

 

[shum33]

I read the book by Collins I think includes the sad story about inanta Cismaan. Bad book.

Who is FadumaCali?

 

[Gadhwayne]

Again retard the census was not clan based.When the census was clan based you were 3rd place and your italian masters didn’t reward you even though you gave them aisha boqoor,fadumo ali and many more.Instead they cucked you and made you work in salt mines

Who is FaadumaCali?

This quote makes me think you're a low IQ individual since you couldn't possibly grasp the fact that SSDF initiated the armed rebellions against Siad Barre. You're also accusing Siad Barre of using foreign mercenaries when Ethiopia was funding your militias fighting Siad Barre. What a low hypocrite individual you are. As Daroods, we operate and function as individual sub clans, we have different political and economical aspirations, also Not all of us supported the mad man Siad Barre, seems like you're confusing us with your laangaab Isaaq clan.

You forget CumarMaxamuud, after bravely standing upto Afweyne, gave up.

The foreign mercenaries were WhiteSouth African/Rhodedian airforce mercenaries. Afweyne still lost. The Derg kicked out SNM and Afweyne still lost.

What does that say about the Mighty Morphin Jabartis who trace back to Shiikh Jabarti from 20something to almost 40 generations, depending on the clan and how they got incorporated into Jabarti ethnic group of YEMEN. Isaaq only go back about 20 generation compare WHOLE Isaaq to to subclans going back about 20 generations

A new generation of the descendents of SNM mujaahidiin will hopefully do a better job in leading descendenants of communist proMasiixi dictator supporters

 

[Karim]

Who is FaadumaCali?



You forget CumarMaxamuud, after bravely standing upto Afweyne, gave up.

The foreign mercenaries were WhiteSouth African/Rhodedian airforce mercenaries. Afweyne still lost. The Derg kicked out SNM and Afweyne still lost.

What does that say about the Mighty Morphin Jabartis who trace back go Shiikh Jabarti from 20something to almost 40 generations, depending on the clan and how they got incorporated into Jabarti ethnic group of YEMEN. Isaaq only go back about 20 generation compare WHOLE Isaaq to to subclans going back about 20 generations

A new generation of the descendents of SNM mujaahidiin will hopefully do a better jon in leading descendenants of communist proMasiixi dictator supporters

Not sure if you're familiar with History but your SNM "fighters" literally gave up when Ethiopia expelled their militias, Tuke and Gaani were mercilessly slaughtering your ilk in 1990 and wrecking your towns until the corpses of your folk littered the earth. Where was SNM then?!! USC defeated Siad Barre forcing the armed forces to disintegrate and abandon their posts. You didn't defeat shit boy.

I knew you would ADMIT your laangaab status by default. "Compare 20 generations sub clans of Darood with our Little Isaaq community"
Embarrassing stuff.

Still, almost 5 different Darood sub clans dwarf your little Isaaq clan in numbers. Miskiin