We absolutely need to establish more professional networks and mentorships.
Somali boys in the West are easily drawn to ghetto lifestyles
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Desert Flower
VIP
I agree. Easier said than done though. But I think it could be done inshallah.
More like we need some organisation that takes fresh graduates and let's them work for a few years in their chosen fields and they can keep doing professional exams etc so lpc for lawyers, actuary exams, accountant exams, project management exams and allows them to interview out and build skills whilst getting paid. That way they have a few years of experience and won't deal with b.s at the entry level.
It's ok and I am sorry too, you really grew up in a terrible place, Chicago? I cannot imagine.
NotoriusBIG-V2
Nero
Drill rap pretty much spiked the violence back in 2012, all these rapper make millions and get their friends and relatives killed and then move out. Too much gang politics here, unfortunately this destructive chicago drill rap has become a worldwide phenomenon that influences and destroys the minds of the youth.
BobSmoke
Flying over your heads
Fantastic thread.
There are many sides to this complexity.
4 factors to this
1. How active and aware the parents were
2. School, the fellow students and the teachers.
3. Environment, friends and the norm there.
4. The individuals natural way of being.
It's a gamble if 1 of these 4 look dicey.
It's coming mostly down to the parents and the way the kids are built.
Somali males are not really uniform like that however we are very much linked. It can take 1 event for us to switch.
Another thing that is unaddressed in our community and that is how a man should deal with stress and how to deal with mental health in a healthy manner. We have a lot of unchecked trauma and it will affect how we navigate in life.
This thing cannot be simplified.
There isn't just 1 solution. This problem has to be solved wholistically. It takes many parties to solve this clusterfuck.
There are many sides to this complexity.
4 factors to this
1. How active and aware the parents were
2. School, the fellow students and the teachers.
3. Environment, friends and the norm there.
4. The individuals natural way of being.
It's a gamble if 1 of these 4 look dicey.
It's coming mostly down to the parents and the way the kids are built.
Somali males are not really uniform like that however we are very much linked. It can take 1 event for us to switch.
Another thing that is unaddressed in our community and that is how a man should deal with stress and how to deal with mental health in a healthy manner. We have a lot of unchecked trauma and it will affect how we navigate in life.
This thing cannot be simplified.
There isn't just 1 solution. This problem has to be solved wholistically. It takes many parties to solve this clusterfuck.
Kayo
Already bought my grave
It's pretty simple,most of these young men didn't grow up in Somalia nor do they have a very strong cultural ties. Their parents are more usually working all the time trying to better their situation. Those young men's don't have role models they look up to so with the weak cultural ties,they try to fit in with the glorified"gangbanging" African American culture. Which usually leads them more often than not, to reject themselves in order to be "normal". Plus you gotta take into account the fact that their parents came from a civil war to come to the west for a better future. That's why they are more likely to choose the "ghetto lifestyle" instead of succeeding in their own way like Indians and Asians and the fact that they are seen as black by the system also doesn't help.
Mozart
You need people like me
Why is it difficult for some people to grasp that these kids grew up in a different environment to you ?
They live in some of the worst council estates , go to the worst of schools, David Cameron’s government sent their mothers to work, and gangs can easily recruit them with the allure of fast money given their situation.
Just because they’re Somali and you have an image of how they should be, it doesn’t make it a reality.
They live in some of the worst council estates , go to the worst of schools, David Cameron’s government sent their mothers to work, and gangs can easily recruit them with the allure of fast money given their situation.
Just because they’re Somali and you have an image of how they should be, it doesn’t make it a reality.
I was born in the United States, so have many of my friends. Since my family couldn't afford to live in the nicest neighborhood we had to live in low income areas. Which guess what, is full of ghetto mathows, somalis and hispanics. So overtime the lifestyle you call "ghetto" is a pretty normal lifestyle. My parents made sure I didn't hang around the wrong people so I am pretty sucessful in life right now. But it really isn't the somali kids fault.
Abaq
VIP
Most of us grew up in the same neighbourhoods. Half my friends chose that life, half didn't. I have two friends that were bestfriends since they were in year 2 break up over this lifestyle when they were in year 10. One wanted to focus on his studies, one wanted the street lifestyle. We're not talking out of our backsides, we lived through it and have seen it all.
Invader
👾pʅɹoʍ pǝʇɐʅǝxᴉd ɐ uᴉ ƃuᴉʌᴉʅ👾
It's like saying Tamils are black.I say f*ck madow and madow culture lovers. Kill them all
There is no science to black.
People from Papua have nothing in common with people from the West Indies.
Black is a social construct .
Djokovic
Somali Arab
No more Somali culture for me only Islam
Gambar
VIP
It’s a safety net, it is not supposed to be a forever thing. Your goal should be to move your parents out of there.
Definitely Islam is the way forward for young Somalis, but there's nothing wrong with having to adhere to our somali traditions as long as they are in conflict with Islam.
Djokovic
Somali Arab
I agree with you
In a street life, you want to hurt others who come from a different turf from you. You want to sell drugs to make easy money. You want to commit numerous zina because it makes you feel like a "real man". You want to drink alcohol, smoke weed and take other forms of drugs like sippin lean, poppin pills and etc. It's a very sinful lifestyle that goes against Islam in every principle.
One way to counter such filthy lifestyle is having parents with strong religious values who make their children pray 5 times a day, fast during Ramadan, take them to madrassa so they can finish Qu'ran and Hadith at a young age. Teach them what's right and wrong in our religion and you'll see the positive impacts it can have in their life. They will become religious and focus on their studies in school. They will become good kids and I've seen this with my own eyes of kids who live in the complex but are good people because they had parents with strong religious values.
Yes, the environment can play a role sometimes but everything goes down to parenting.
One way to counter such filthy lifestyle is having parents with strong religious values who make their children pray 5 times a day, fast during Ramadan, take them to madrassa so they can finish Qu'ran and Hadith at a young age. Teach them what's right and wrong in our religion and you'll see the positive impacts it can have in their life. They will become religious and focus on their studies in school. They will become good kids and I've seen this with my own eyes of kids who live in the complex but are good people because they had parents with strong religious values.
Yes, the environment can play a role sometimes but everything goes down to parenting.
Some of these ciyaalosuuq are just continuing a family tradition. They are sons/daughters of war criminals. Not all "refugees" are innocent people. If their family members stole from/killed people in Somalia what do you think the kids are doing? Crime.
Also, most refugee communities are messed up. Look at the other major refugee groups and their crime rates. The only decent refugee group I have ever seen are the Syrians and it's because they're an educated bunch.
Also, most refugee communities are messed up. Look at the other major refugee groups and their crime rates. The only decent refugee group I have ever seen are the Syrians and it's because they're an educated bunch.
