Somali camel traders pay the price of war in Syria

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Samira

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With markets in the Middle East paralysed by war, Somali traders say their livelihoods are at risk of collapse.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...ders-pay-price-war-syria-160411092956190.html

Elasha Biyaha, Somalia - It is Wednesday morning in a tea shop made of sticks and tarpaulin next to an expansive open air livestock market in the pop-up town of Elasha Biyaha, 16km southwest of the Somali capital, Mogadishu.

A group of middle-aged men sit on plastic and wooden chairs, ears glued to a radio broadcasting the 9am news bulletin. The men are camel traders, and they are following the latest news from the wars in Yemen, Syria and Iraq.

The conflicts in these faraway countries have affected their trade and livelihoods badly. Business is slow and the traders say they barely make any money.

"Business was very good when our animals used to be taken abroad," Musa Hassan told Al Jazeera, surrounded by camels chewing the cud under the morning sun. He has been in the business for more than 20 years.

Change of fortunes
The Horn of Africa country used to export millions of camels to these Arab countries each year but when the conflicts started, exports slowed. Then they came to a complete halt as the war in Yemen made it too risky to use the Yemeni sea to export the animals.

"The profit margins are better when the animals are taken abroad. People in those countries have more money and can afford to pay more for our camels," Hassan explained.

In 2014, Somalia exported a record five million livestock to countries in the Gulf, the highest number of live animals exported from the east African country in more than two decades, according to the UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO). That included 77,000 camels. This year, only 2,000 camels have left Mogadishu port, the largest port in the country.

Of the world's estimated 14 million camels, Somalia, a country of some 10 million people, has more than seven million - the highest number in the world.

Livestock is the backbone of the Somali economy with more than 65 percent of the population engaged in some way in the industry, according to the FAO. Furthermore, World Bank figures indicate that the export of livestock and their products accounts for 80 percent of the country's foreign exchange.

By the side of the market is a small stall selling cold drinks to traders and hawkers. Amina Noor, a mother of five, has worked at the market for five years and has seen the change in the market's fortunes first-hand.

"Everything is slow. More animals used to be brought to the market. Traders used to have more money to spend. Now less of them come to the market and the animals at the market used to be a lot more than you see today," said Noor, pointing at the herds of camels.

The price of meat
With markets in the Middle East out of reach, traders are trying their luck at the local meat markets in Mogadishu. Thirty minutes' drive from the livestock market in the Bulo Hubey area of the Somali capital is one such place. Customers flock here early in the morning to get the freshest cut before restaurants put in the day's order.

But Abdiweli Mursal, a meat trader at the market, said they were not doing any better than the traders at the livestock market.

"Before, the market was better," Mursal said, referring to the time exports were shipped almost daily out of Somalia. The money exporters made used to trickle down to everyone in the city, according to Noor.

"People had more money and they could afford to buy meat. The price of meat is still the same. Our business is connected to the general economy in the country which is not very good," Mursal added.

The Somali Chamber of Commerce and Industry agrees, and says that the economic consequences of the conflicts in Middle Eastern countries have already been felt in Somalia.

"Ships carrying camels were turned back from Yemen because of the ongoing conflict there. The stop in export has affected people badly. Hundreds of jobs have been lost and many more will be lost if exports don't start again. Somalia is suffering because of wars elsewhere," Abdi Abshir Dorre, director general of the Somali Chamber of Commerce and Industry, told Al Jazeera.

According to Dorre, the current plight of traders in the livestock industry is worse than that witnessed during the 2011 and 1993 drought that hit the country.

"Traders still have the running costs to pay. The animals need looking after. They require feeding and vaccinations, and all these things cost money. The livestock industry also determines the value of the dollar against the Somali shilling. And the value of the dollar determines everything in the market," Dorre said.

Back at the livestock market, traders say they feel powerless and talk of their livelihoods being caught up in a fight they have nothing to do with.

"I'm a trader. I sell camels and that is the only thing I know anything about. I don't know how or why the conflict started but I'm praying it ends so that our business goes back to its normal way," Hassan, the camel trader, said.
 
I can't see how those wars would effect us in a major way. The overwhelming majority of livestock exports goes solely to saudi. Uae, Bahrain, Yemen, and Egypt don't purchase much from us
 

BebsiBolice

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It's easy for you to say 'good'. The Middle East is our biggest market, and they solely depend on livestocks from the Horn.

The middle east shouldn't be our biggest market. Somalis need to diversify. Chinese love to buy foreign food because they don't trust Chinese made products. There's 1,2 billion Chinese. Somalis are too stupid. The people should start producing pork and alcohol and focus on India and China. China for the pork and India for the alcohol. And instead of selling Camels to the middle east sell camel milk and meat and keep the fucking animal inside of Somalia.
 
The middle east shouldn't be our biggest market. Somalis need to diversify. Chinese love to buy foreign food because they don't trust Chinese made products. There's 1,2 billion Chinese. Somalis are too stupid. The people should start producing pork and alcohol and focus on India and China. China for the pork and India for the alcohol. And instead of selling Camels to the middle east sell camel milk and meat and keep the fucking animal inside of Somalia.

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Lol even if we set aside the fact that Somalis would never entertain the idea of dealing with pork and alcohol what makes you think the chinese and indians would buy these products from somalis when there are far better producers?
 

BebsiBolice

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Lol even if we set aside the fact that Somalis would never entertain the idea of dealing with pork and alcohol what makes you think the chinese and indians would buy these products from somalis when there are far better producers?

Geographical location is key so is price. Have you seen Somalia's location?
China currently buys a large amount of pork from the States and it's still not sufficient they need more. And as if China is above buying cheep products when they're currently looting Africa? Chinese government will do anything to feed it's population, they don't want another famine. Somalis don't have a choice, money does not fall from the sky.
 

Bernie Madoff

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The middle east shouldn't be our biggest market. Somalis need to diversify. Chinese love to buy foreign food because they don't trust Chinese made products. There's 1,2 billion Chinese. Somalis are too stupid. The people should start producing pork and alcohol and focus on India and China. China for the pork and India for the alcohol. And instead of selling Camels to the middle east sell camel milk and meat and keep the fucking animal inside of Somalia.
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BebsiBolice

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But they should. Wallahi they should. When my mother was my age they were producing rum, beer and wine in Jowhar. Reopen the factory, start producing alcohol, sugar and plastic like you used to. You don't have many option when you're poor let alone options fuled by religious beliefs.
 
Geographical location is key so is price. Have you seen Somalia's location?
China currently buys a large amount of pork from the States and it's still not sufficient they need more. And as if China is above buying cheep products when they're currently looting Africa? Chinese government will do anything to feed it's population, they don't want another famine. Somalis don't have a choice, money does not fall from the sky.

This is so hypothetical but ok...

Do pigs even thrive in Africa on that much of a large scale? What the hell do Somalis know about making alcohol when it took other people centuries to perfect? Oh and China isnt looting Africa for food but resources so that point is already moot. I will admit though you spotted an opportunity but one that isnt for somalia for obvious reasons.
 

Bernie Madoff

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But they should. Wallahi they should. When my mother was my age they were producing rum, beer and wine in Jowhar. Reopen the factory, start producing alcohol, sugar and plastic like you used to. You don't have many option when you're poor let alone options fuled by religious beliefs.
I understand were your coming from but i highly doubt this would happen in our lifetime. Somalis are to religous and strict they wont allow this and also prob dont want other muslim countries to start cutting off aid due to them selling pork and liquor
 

BebsiBolice

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I understand were your coming from but i highly doubt this would happen in our lifetime. Somalis are to religous and strict they wont allow this and also prob dont want other muslim countries to start cutting off aid due to them selling pork and liquor

Yeah the Arab League controls Somalia via Aid and ideology. It's pathetic. Alcohol should be produce don't wanna drink then don't but at least export other shit than camels.
 

Hafez

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Geographical location is key so is price. Have you seen Somalia's location?
China currently buys a large amount of pork from the States and it's still not sufficient they need more. And as if China is above buying cheep products when they're currently looting Africa? Chinese government will do anything to feed it's population, they don't want another famine. Somalis don't have a choice, money does not fall from the sky.
China is already the biggest Pork producer in the world. WH Group alone produces 1.11 million sows. Somalis will never ever get a significant market share of the alcohol industry lmao. Somalis should focus on tourism (once they've attained stability), trading livestock and other areas that they tend to thrive in. Wallahi this girl is a nutcase.
 

BebsiBolice

Suicidal men adore me.
This is so hypothetical but ok...

Do pigs even thrive in Africa on that much of a large scale? What the hell do Somalis know about making alcohol when it took other people centuries to perfect? Oh and China isnt looting Africa for food but resources so that point is already moot. I will admit though you spotted an opportunity but one that isnt for somalia for obvious reasons.

Yes China is looting Africas food. Illegal fishing in East and West Africa, just look at the disgusting contracts Somali Gov signed. And as I said before the Chinese population does not trust Chinese produced food they're well aware of the chemicals and plastic in chinese food, the vast majority prefer foreign products there's a reason why China is being up American farms when they could easily be investing in their own country.

Pigs don't survive that much in heat, not many animals do but with the right infrastructure they could.
 

BebsiBolice

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China is already the biggest Pork producer in the world. WH Group alone produces 1.11 million sows. Somalis will never ever get a significant market share of the alcohol industry lmao. Somalis should focus on tourism (once they've attained stability), trading livestock and other areas that they tend to thrive in. Wallahi this girl is a nutcase.

What livestock? Camels that we sell to Saudi Arabia? How are we gonna make a profit from that? Somalia needs a diverse economy and exporting only camels will not bring that. The people need jobs. We already used to sell alcohol don't understand why we can't do that again oh wait because of extremist like you
 
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