Somali flag

[hinters]

there's no such thing as free will, sxb. Allah plans everything.

Allah gave humans free will.

 

[hinters]

"very deep meaning"
mf what meaning its blue with just a star, the shahada shows somalia being a muslim nation.
also those texan mfs have a similar flag and we need to be different.

Ex Italian Somaliland, Ex British Somaliland, Ogaden, NFD, Djibouti.

 

[hinters]

how does the somali flag with a shahadah some how make it "accomodate" land???
braindead comment.

read the first message on this thread bruh.

 

[hinters]

Don't. We don't hate Somali people here. Find some of other place to hate

I'm stating a fact. It makes no sense for Somalia to combine with Somaliland because Somaliland is already a part of Somalia, how does that mean I hate somali people.

 

[Amber]

I'm stating a fact. It makes no sense for Somalia to combine with Somaliland because Somaliland is already a part of Somalia. So.

sxb, I heard someone say Somaliland had a bit of trauma from the Isaaq genocide. They didn't want to associate with mainland Somalia. Siad Bare was Hawiye during the genocide. And after his rule, many Hawiyes became presidents or high figures in the country. Landers said they didn't trust Hawiyes. That's what I heard at least. So, that's why I leave the whole "Somaliland is not a country" situation alone. I advise you too

 

[ZBR]

We should abandon the blue, blue is a symbolizes instability and capriciousness, the ocean and sky both sources of dangers and destruction polar to the stability serene of Green earth

 

[Mantiq_Al-gharb]

there's no such thing as free will, sxb. Allah plans everything.

• The human intends based on a power delegated to them by Allah. Humans are given the power by Allah to create their own intentions. A God who can delegate decisions to His creatures is more perfect than a God who is incapable of delegation.
• Allah either creates a will in them (or does not create it)
• God either creates the external action (or does not create it)

 

[Amber]

• The human intends based on a power delegated to them by Allah. Humans are given the power by Allah to create their own intentions. A God who can delegate decisions to His creatures is more perfect than a God who is incapable of delegation.
• Allah either creates a will in them (or does not create it)
• God either creates the external action (or does not create it)

I'll reconsider that

 

[Mantiq_Al-gharb]

I'll reconsider that

If free will does not exist than that is literally stating that Allah is responsible for evil. Whereas when will comes from the intention that Allah has granted us, it disassociates from this principle as Allah is not responsible for evil because evil comes from human intentions. He only carries out those intentions in order to preserve the system of the universe that He has created.

 

[Amber]

If free will does not exist than that is literally stating that Allah is responsible for evil. Whereas when will comes from the intention that Allah has granted us, it disassociates from this principle as Allah is not responsible for evil because evil comes from human intentions. He only carries out those intentions in order to preserve the system of the universe that He has created.

I see where you're coming from.

 

[hinters]

sxb, I heard someone say Somaliland had a bit of trauma from the Isaaq genocide. They didn't want to associate with mainland Somalia. Siad Bare was Hawiye during the genocide. And after his rule, many Hawiyes became presidents or high figures in the country. Landers said they didn't trust Hawiyes. That's what I heard at least. So, that's why I leave the whole "Somaliland is not a country" situation alone. I advise you too

That's fair enough.

 

[Amber]

That's fair enough.

something like that, thanks for understanding

 

[Mantiq_Al-gharb]

just curious you a mutazili? not judging btw

Not really, mutazil'ite believe in the aristrolean model of free will that compromises omnipotence, nor are they the only person that argues against the Ash'arite view. Ibn taymiyyah and Al-Maturidi also argue against predeterminsm while adhering to Islamic Orthodoxy

 

[Amber]

Not really, mutazill believe in the aristrolean model of free will that compromises omnipotence, nor are they the only person that argues against the Ash'arite view. Ibn taymiyyah and Al-Maturdi also argue against predeterminsm while adhering to Islamic Orthodoxy

so, what are you? Respectfully

 

[Mantiq_Al-gharb]

so, what are you? Respectfully

Shafi'i

 

[Amber]

Shafi'i

oh, so am I

 

[Mantiq_Al-gharb]

oh, so am I

Most Somalis are

 

[Amber]

Most Somalis are

Had a feeling

 

[Username]

there's no such thing as free will, sxb. Allah plans everything.

If this is true, Allah really hates Somalis then, everything happens how he wants it to, and he wants us to suffer and we've been suffering for over 30 years, amazing.

I'm curious how Somalis managed to piss of Allah more than any other ethnic group to deserve this.

 

[Username]

sxb, I heard someone say Somaliland had a bit of trauma from the Isaaq genocide. They didn't want to associate with mainland Somalia. Siad Bare was Hawiye during the genocide. And after his rule, many Hawiyes became presidents or high figures in the country. Landers said they didn't trust Hawiyes. That's what I heard at least. So, that's why I leave the whole "Somaliland is not a country" situation alone. I advise you too

Wtf, Siad Barre was definitely NOT Hawiye, and he was OVERTHROWN by Hawiye, seriously, what is up with people blaming Hawiye for everything?