Somali Greatest Enemy Is Itself

[DR OSMAN]

I blast this nation because if I praise it I'm doing you all a dis service not a favor. As we know by now the biggest threat to Somalis is themselves, noone caused your division but yourselves, you can deny it and deflect to external actors but they didn't create the conditions of your lack of unity, yes sure they poured fire on it but that's it. The west and it's allies or partners are a huge enemy to the nation. Yes they stood by idly and watched things unfold and only really intervened due to the terrorist threat post 911.

They are not friend of Somalia never were and never will be. I'm not saying their people are bad but their foreign policy doesn't include your well being of even a win win. Your either going to turn into a crime scene and anarchy like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Mali, and Iran is on the hit list or else you need to accept the role of being an aid dependent nation and take your ricebags.

Those are the two options open for you. You can't develop of charity it will run out and isn't re producing itself like investment. Charity is nothing more then a tool they use to ensure you can't develop. So why pursue them when you know what the outcome will be? With China at least it's a different win win posture, that's not the same as win lose like western foreign policy. Their model to development isn't even that great the west which took them 500 years which china did in 50 years.

Yes I appreciate the west saved us in our time of need thru refugees, we shouldn't seek their harm but we have a right to look elsewhere if their foreign policy doesn't suit our interest or goals. It's not a good thing being a traitor to your ancestoraI homeland, they are the reason you even exist, if you can't show loyalty to that U will probably not sure loyalty to even your host nations.

You need to learn not to pick one or the other as right or wrong or win or lose, but see yourself co existing with two loyalties one to your ancestoraI land and another to your host nation. Don't throw anyone under a bus or go extreme with your loyalties as both do have a role to play and nothing worse is then degenerate abaal laawe or a turncoat and U don't win any points with anyone if those behaviours are seen as your threat to everyone.

Yes their is foreign meddling in Somalia but it wouldn't exist if your own house or internal situation was normal, external actors only add fire or manipulate it for their goals but they didn't start the fire nor are they the fuel for it as some of you like to argue, Somalis started it and fuel it period and then seek outsiders to reinforce it.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This is a total flip to what U guys have been conditioned with that your enemy lies outside of you, when infact if U look at history the one who harms U the most is your fellow Somali, it's not even close the death toll from your fellow Somali vs foreigners thru out history. While U r prepared for enemies outside U, U were weak to identify the biggest enemy of all inside of you and yes foreigners did take advantage of it but they sure as hell didn't create it, you did.

I mean it's never s good sign if ogadens r giving up who really tolerate the intolerable and who created this somalinimo before syl turned it into a policy @Abaq

 

[DR OSMAN]

Somalis kama dhisna tan gudaha and even foreigners know this, they say that's a vulnerability let's exploit it, it's your denial and deflection to externally made U weak to identify internal threats. Change that be more alert and aware about the internal and close the exploits internally. As long U leave it open, don't ask foreigners to look away and play dumb. I always knew Somali are experts on outside enemies so I shifted immediately to learn the internal flaws. If we all did, you wouldn't be so exposed.

They are getting better with internal issue as compared to 90s in full blown denial and living in a 1960 to 1991 mental utopia and deflecting everything as foreign engineering so their has been growth since then and they are waking up to the internal dimensions not just the external anymore.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The internal situation really boils down to politics it's not at a civilian level or social relations at all, which many try to open up to conflict but is futile and pointless. The issue boils down to power.

They all worry they will be abused by the state economically, security, human capital, and even lose social status. That's the root of the issue it's always overlooked tho for day to day events but it reports to those trust problems. The best solution is every man rules his land untill trust is slowly restored it won't happen rapidly and only talk about rule of law not opinions or biases or agendas. Rule of law will bring people closer not some great genghis khan man god leader.

You need to deal with your own leaders who have given up and seek to benefit themselves at your expense they do this because they feel no hope for a greater good so turn to personal interests.

 

[peterpeter]

The internal situation really boils down to politics it's not at a civilian level or social relations at all, which many try to open up to conflict but is futile and pointless. The issue boils down to power.

They all worry they will be abused by the state economically, security, and even lose social status. That's the root of the issue it's always overlooked tho for day to day events but it reports to those trust problems. The best solution is every man rules his land untill trust is slowly restored it won't happen rapidly and only talk about rule of law not opinions or biased or agendas. Rule of law will bring people closer not some great genghis khan man god leader.

Ok this point you mentioned I like a lot, Somalia is impossible to govern since the avg person has literally no say in the running of the country, Somalia is a country club whos tab is picked up by the rest of the world.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Ok this point you mentioned I like a lot, Somalia is impossible to govern since the avg person has literally no say in the running of the country, Somalia is a country club whos tab is picked up by the rest of the world.

They really do need a social contract even marriages between two people do, do U think millions can live on just no contract detailing how power itself is managed, responsibilities, duties, and dispute resolution mechanism like courts and even violations that stipulate independence is allowed for regions if tyranny rears it's ugly head?

I mean surely U can see it's insane to think rule of law, constitution, social contract can be avoided or minimised it's the damn backbone of the people, it's what they refer to define if something is legal or not. You can't unite on opinions that's what's called politics and elections, but only set of conditions called laws that creates an even playing field not disadvantage.