Somali male celebrities get worshipped, the female ones are bashed

[Samira]

Mo Farah/Said Rageah = Everyone loves them

Iman = Shaytaan who has abandoned Allah

Ayaan Hirsi (who campaigns against FGM among other things) = her being a kaffir is all that matters (and racist comments about her white husband even though Mo Farah is married to a white woman)

These people are the only ones who give Somalis any image beyond being criminals and half of them are mistreated for mostly sexist reasons. Let's not even mention the qabyalaad crap. Until your perfect idol comes along who shows everyone your specific ideal Somalinimo, we should support Somali celebrities more. Ayaan Hirsi and Iman deserve nothing but respect

 

[angrycat]

Aint no self respecting muslim gonna respect ayaan hirsi

Are there not muslim women campaigning against fgm that we run to an attention seeking apostate?

 

[McD30]

Ayaan Hirsi distanced herself from her culture and unfairly painted it in bad light. She lead her personal experience be a representation of an entire culture, an experience we found out was entirely false. Ayaan is a deluded sell-out and a neo-con who has made a career out of falsehoods. She is a disgrace and many Somali atheist rightly distance themselves from her.

 

[Kaafiye]

Mo Farah/Said Rageah = Everyone loves them

Iman = Shaytaan who has abandoned Allah

Ayaan Hirsi (who campaigns against FGM among other things) = her being a kaffir is all that matters (and racist comments about her white husband even though Mo Farah is married to a white woman)

These people are the only ones who give Somalis any image beyond being criminals and half of them are mistreated for mostly sexist reasons. Let's not even mention the qabyalaad crap. Until your perfect idol comes along who shows everyone your specific ideal Somalinimo, we should support Somali celebrities more. Ayaan Hirsi and Iman deserve nothing but respect

Please don't post on this forum again. You're actually THAT stupid.

Regarding the Somali male celebrities.....one of them is a celebrated athlete, the other one is a well-known Islamic preacher.

Regarding the Somali female celebrities you mentioned.....one of them is an Atheist, the other one is a Model who poses naked in front of millions of people (and in case you didn't know, that's something frowned upon in our culture). Now I don't really have much of a problem with Iman, but I do have a huge problem with Ayaan Hirsi.

But because you're unbelievably stupid, I had to explain these simple concepts to you. Not all celebrities are equal.

 

[Samira]

Ayaan Hirsi distanced herself from her culture and unfairly painted it in bad light. She lead her personal experience be a representation of an entire culture, an experience we found out was entirely false. Ayaan is a deluded sell-out and a neo-con who has made a career out of falsehoods. She is a disgrace and many Somali atheist rightly distance themselves from her.

She does more good than bad imho

Please don't post on this forum again. You're actually THAT stupid.

Regarding the Somali male celebrities.....one of them is a celebrated athlete, the other one is a well-known Islamic preacher.

Regarding the Somali female celebrities you mentioned.....one of them is an Atheist, the other one is a Model who poses naked in front of millions of people (and in case you didn't know, that's something frowned upon in our culture). Now I don't really have much of a problem with Iman, but I do have a huge problem with Ayaan Hirsi.

But because you're unbelievably stupid, I had to explain these simple concepts to you. Not all celebrities are equal.

When you ask a non-Somali "what are some examples of exemplary Somali citizens" hers is the one of the only name that will appear. Because she is an open atheist she is derided when many of the Somali notables have essentially brought themselves outside of the fold of Islam with their actions. She writes books, while your clansmen kill other people along tribal lines, Both will be judged equally as non-Muslim. At least Ayaan does more good than bad

 

[Kaafiye]

She does more good than bad imho



When you ask a non-Somali "what are some examples of exemplary Somali citizens" hers is the one of the only name that will appear. Because she is an open atheist she is derided when many of the Somali notables have essentially brought themselves outside of the fold of Islam with their actions. She writes books, while your clansmen kill other people along tribal lines, Both will be judged equally as non-Muslim. At least Ayaan does more good than bad

So you judge our people based on the opinions of non-Somalis? And then you expect to be taken seriously on this forum? Really?

Ayaan Hirsi wrote books deriding Somali culture, with stories that were non-factual, and she was even called out for her neoconservative beliefs by fair-minded cadaan Non-Muslims. But you want to hold hands with this sick woman because you're too stupid to know otherwise. Carry on.

 

[Samira]

So you judge our people based on the opinions of non-Somalis? And then you expect to be taken seriously on this forum? Really?

Ayaan Hirsi wrote books deriding Somali culture, with stories that were non-factual, and she was even called out for her neoconservative beliefs by fair-minded cadaan Non-Muslims. But you want to hold hands with this sick woman because you're too stupid to know otherwise. Carry on.

I don't. But non-Somalis will be more objective than Somalis about how good of a people we are. We have a terrible reputation even among other Muslim and African ethnic groups. Go ask what they think, you will be shocked. We need to acknowledge this instead of just burying our heads in the sand

Somali culture is heavily flawed and deserves criticism. It has spawned a 25+ year failed state with no end in sight. We are the ONLY people on earth who can boast of this,even South Sudan will get their shit together faster I am betting. We are near the top in FGM. Maybe she lies and is wrong about some things but she is on the right track. We need reform and soon

 

[McD30]

I don't. But non-Somalis will be more objective than Somalis about how good of a people we are. We have a terrible reputation even among other Muslim and African ethnic groups. Go ask what they think, you will be shocked. We need to acknowledge this instead of just burying our heads in the sand

Somali culture is heavily flawed and deserves criticism. It has spawned a 25+ year failed state with no end in sight. We are the ONLY people on earth who can boast of this,even South Sudan will get their shit together faster I am betting. We are near the top in FGM. Maybe she lies and is wrong about some things but she is on the right track. We need reform and soon

Muslim and African groups think badly of us? Oh no what ever will we do? We aren't seeking acknowledgement here, least of all from the likes of those. Yes our culture is flawed but not innately, it's a generational flaw. Somalis 30 years ago were more liberal than they are today. Ayaan Hirsi has no legitimacy addressing this as she is a pathological liar and rabble rouser. A person whose whole career is build on falsehoods. The issue is more complex than Ayaan would have you believe, we are a unique case, unique in our failures and Islam did not cause our downfall at best it exacerbated it.

 

[Mercury]

I don't. But non-Somalis will be more objective than Somalis about how good of a people we are. We have a terrible reputation even among other Muslim and African ethnic groups. Go ask what they think, you will be shocked. We need to acknowledge this instead of just burying our heads in the sand

Somali culture is heavily flawed and deserves criticism. It has spawned a 25+ year failed state with no end in sight. We are the ONLY people on earth who can boast of this,even South Sudan will get their shit together faster I am betting. We are near the top in FGM. Maybe she lies and is wrong about some things but she is on the right track. We need reform and soon

I CANT take you serious with this bullshit Unfourtunately there are some people that are never going to be satisfied never ever and you seem to be one of em

Look what we have to do is rely on one another DEPEND on EACH other

When I see you succeding im gonna push you on because ultimately that's my success

And we are building this ground like these are our houses that were creating these are foundations for the future generation

And its our brick to lay its also our house to knockdown

So lets do it wisely lets do it together!

If Theres anything that I know its that we Somali people are the most resilient people in the world

Nobody can bring us down the way we can and nobody can lift us up the way we can
So that being said Im so proud to be Somali

Weve already made so many strides and Im just so excited for the future

PeaceNLove!

 

[McLovin]

Mo Farah/Said Rageah = Everyone loves them

Iman = Shaytaan who has abandoned Allah

Ayaan Hirsi (who campaigns against FGM among other things) = her being a kaffir is all that matters (and racist comments about her white husband even though Mo Farah is married to a white woman)

These people are the only ones who give Somalis any image beyond being criminals and half of them are mistreated for mostly sexist reasons. Let's not even mention the qabyalaad crap. Until your perfect idol comes along who shows everyone your specific ideal Somalinimo, we should support Somali celebrities more. Ayaan Hirsi and Iman deserve nothing but respect

I was onboard until you said Ayaan. Why even mention that wench?

 

[Bahal]

Ayan Hersi is the real life @AbdiJohnson

 

[Inactive]

Ayan Hersi is the real life @AbdiJohnson

I am greater than Ayan Hersi

 

[Apollo]

Modeling and ''professional Islam bashing'' aren't achievements.

The aforementioned Somali males became semi-famous in a more honorable way.