Somali paper making

[Cartan Boos]

Somali papermaking

Somalis have used the frankincense trees native to Somalia to produce writing paper. By harvesting the tree’s second layer of bark, they created a material perfectly suited for writing.

"resembling oiled letter-paper, perfectly transparent, and of a beautiful amber colour" A somali Qur'an from the 18th century:

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[Xassan]

Amazing

 

[Cartan Boos]

Amazing

Somali fabric making also challenged india, Our people were never lazy even with the harsh climate and small population

 

[Midas]

Somali papermaking

Somalis have used the frankincense trees native to Somalia to produce writing paper. By harvesting the tree’s second layer of bark, they created a material perfectly suited for writing.
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"resembling oiled letter-paper, perfectly transparent, and of a beautiful amber colour" A somali Qur'an from the 18th century:
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Wow I've been wondering about this since I watched that YouTube video on ethiopian book makers

 

[Laser]

Somali papermaking

Somalis have used the frankincense trees native to Somalia to produce writing paper. By harvesting the tree’s second layer of bark, they created a material perfectly suited for writing.
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"resembling oiled letter-paper, perfectly transparent, and of a beautiful amber colour" A somali Qur'an from the 18th century:
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x.com

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Great account, why doesn't he post more often

 

[Midas]

@Idilinaa it's kind of crazy to think this never even occurred to me even though logically if Ethiopians had methods to produce paper then why wouldn't somalis? It shows us how there are probably entire aspect of somali culture/history/technology that could have been extermely common but that were just not aware of. For example before people on here mentioned that they were aware of some of their family having manuscripts that dealt in mathematics/astronomy i was totally ignorant of it to the point it would have never occurred to me that somalis had acess to this knowledge. Or that we were writing commentaries on philosophy and geometry

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1830s Somali books on Geometry<br><br>&quot;Sheekh Cali Majerteen also known as Xaaji Cali Duulaa a religious man active in Merca who is also credited with his commentary in Arabic on philosophy and ilmu al- masāhãt geometry&quot;<br><br>-Tradizione E Innovazione Nella Letteratura Orale Dei Somali <a href="https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd">https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd</a> <a href="https://t.co/W4f9IyNaot">pic.twitter.com/W4f9IyNaot</a></p>&mdash; The Puntland Vault 🗄 (@PuntlandVault) <a href="">November 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Shimbiris]

@Idilinaa it's kind of crazy to think this never even occurred to me even though logically if Ethiopians had methods to produce paper then why wouldn't somalis? It shows us how there are probably entire aspect of somali culture/history/technology that could have been extermely common but that were just not aware of. For example before people on here mentioned that they were aware of some of their family having manuscripts that dealt in mathematics/astronomy i was totally ignorant of it to the point it would have never occurred to me that somalis had acess to this knowledge. Or that we were writing commentaries on philosophy and geometry

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1830s Somali books on Geometry<br><br>&quot;Sheekh Cali Majerteen also known as Xaaji Cali Duulaa a religious man active in Merca who is also credited with his commentary in Arabic on philosophy and ilmu al- masāhãt geometry&quot;<br><br>-Tradizione E Innovazione Nella Letteratura Orale Dei Somali <a href="https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd">https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd</a> <a href="https://t.co/W4f9IyNaot">pic.twitter.com/W4f9IyNaot</a></p>&mdash; The Puntland Vault 🗄 (@PuntlandVault) <a href="">November 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Reminds me of my Dhow thread which I have 1-2 more posts for or even the stuff I discovered about Somali nomads using dogs en masse during the 1800s. There's a lot of our culture we're not aware of or haven't been aware of until recently and thank the heavens for the internet for bringing all these documents, historical accounts and people to the fore.

 

[Midas]

Reminds me of my Dhow thread which I have 1-2 more posts for or even the stuff I discovered about Somali nomads using dogs en masse during the 1800s. There's a lot of our culture we're not aware of or haven't been aware of until recently and thank the heavens for the internet for bringing all these documents, historical accounts and people to the fore.

It's been fascinating to watch through the internet this info be reintroduced and recontexualized into our understanding of the past. It makes me realize how true the idea that history is a narrative that we construct we are literally constructing our understanding of the past . Even the arguments and info on the somali side of the internet is downstream of what people found online or in books

 

[Idilinaa]

@Idilinaa it's kind of crazy to think this never even occurred to me even though logically if Ethiopians had methods to produce paper then why wouldn't somalis? It shows us how there are probably entire aspect of somali culture/history/technology that could have been extermely common but that were just not aware of. For example before people on here mentioned that they were aware of some of their family having manuscripts that dealt in mathematics/astronomy i was totally ignorant of it to the point it would have never occurred to me that somalis had acess to this knowledge. Or that we were writing commentaries on philosophy and geometry

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1830s Somali books on Geometry<br><br>&quot;Sheekh Cali Majerteen also known as Xaaji Cali Duulaa a religious man active in Merca who is also credited with his commentary in Arabic on philosophy and ilmu al- masāhãt geometry&quot;<br><br>-Tradizione E Innovazione Nella Letteratura Orale Dei Somali <a href="https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd">https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd</a> <a href="https://t.co/W4f9IyNaot">pic.twitter.com/W4f9IyNaot</a></p>&mdash; The Puntland Vault 🗄 (@PuntlandVault) <a href="">November 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That same account shared a scholar who was even studying medical knowledge. A lot of religious scholars/sheikhs actually operated more like polymaths because they studied diverse subjects, not just religion.


This cannon was pretty much a medical authority for centuries

The Canon of Medicine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Canon of Medicine remained a medical authority for centuries. It set the standards for medicine in Medieval Europe and the Islamic world and was used as a standard medical textbook through the 18th century in Europe

 

[Shimbiris]

That same account shared a scholar who was even studying medical knowledge. A lot of religious scholars/sheikhs actually operated more like polymaths because they studied diverse subjects, not just religion.


This cannon was pretty much a medical authority for centuries

The Canon of Medicine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What I find wild about the medical knowledge is that the Yibir were able to perform a craniotomy with anesthesia decades before the first instance of brain surgery in the west. And the story in the Sayyid's book is so casual that it sounds like that Yibir had been doing it for a long time prior.

 

[Idilinaa]

What I find wild about the medical knowledge is that the Yibir were able to perform a craniotomy with anesthesia decades before the first instance of brain surgery in the west. And the story in the Sayyid's book is so casual that it sounds like that Yibir had been doing it for a long time prior.

II doubt it's just Yibir, in that other thread i showed surgical instruments from other tribes so others occupational clans might have had skills to do the same.

I am sure there are other examples that indicate medical and surgical proficiency in general Somali areas. I read a passage where they was talking about Somalis being famous for their treatment of bone fractures and dislocation.

For example there was a European who went to Greece and Italy to fix his dislocated bone but received no help until he came to Harar, where a Somali doctor treated him.

 

[gasara]

@Idilinaa it's kind of crazy to think this never even occurred to me even though logically if Ethiopians had methods to produce paper then why wouldn't somalis? It shows us how there are probably entire aspect of somali culture/history/technology that could have been extermely common but that were just not aware of. For example before people on here mentioned that they were aware of some of their family having manuscripts that dealt in mathematics/astronomy i was totally ignorant of it to the point it would have never occurred to me that somalis had acess to this knowledge. Or that we were writing commentaries on philosophy and geometry

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1830s Somali books on Geometry<br><br>&quot;Sheekh Cali Majerteen also known as Xaaji Cali Duulaa a religious man active in Merca who is also credited with his commentary in Arabic on philosophy and ilmu al- masāhãt geometry&quot;<br><br>-Tradizione E Innovazione Nella Letteratura Orale Dei Somali <a href="https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd">https://t.co/e0Kpas0Tzd</a> <a href="https://t.co/W4f9IyNaot">pic.twitter.com/W4f9IyNaot</a></p>&mdash; The Puntland Vault 🗄 (@PuntlandVault) <a href="">November 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

To gain a deeper understanding of Somali history, it's valuable to speak to people born in the 1960s or earlier. However, the best sources are those aged 70 and older, as they possess a wealth of knowledge about our history. This reminds me of a story my parent once shared from the 1960s. They used to make their own paper and ink for school/duugsi.

Reminds me of my Dhow thread which I have 1-2 more posts for or even the stuff I discovered about Somali nomads using dogs en masse during the 1800s. There's a lot of our culture we're not aware of or haven't been aware of until recently and thank the heavens for the internet for bringing all these documents, historical accounts and people to the fore.

Both nomads and agropastoralists commonly used dogs. I was speaking with my parent, who mentioned that some of their family members, like a great aunt and uncle idrm, had a dog. The dog never entered the house but was kept to protect livestock and serve as an alert for potential dangers.

Somali fabric making also challenged india, Our people were never lazy even with the harsh climate and small population

Somalis are very hardworking and work in many different sectors. This reminds me of the time when I was a kid back home I was apprenticing with a lady who specializes in fabric making. She said it was in her family for many generations and they sell her products all over East Africa and the middle east. Even though she was rich she kept working it was crazy. I also met another family who specialized in the creation of coffee beans and they've been doing it for many generations. We really are a multi-talented group of people.

 

[Idilinaa]

Great account, why doesn't he post more often

He really should, he shares very interesting stuff. He just shared a letter the Ottoman sultan sent to a Somali merchant .

 

[gasara]

II doubt it's just Yibir, in that other thread i showed surgical instruments from other tribes so others occupational clans might have had skills to do the same.

I am sure there are other examples that indicate medical and surgical proficiency in general Somali areas. I read a passage where they was talking about Somalis being famous for their treatment of bone fractures and dislocation.

For example there was a European who went to Greece and Italy to fix his dislocated bone but received no help until he came to Harar, where a Somali doctor treated him.
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Some of the medical professions I remember hearing about from my family included work in chronic infectious diseases, maternal healthcare, and clinical laboratory technology. These were some of the fields my family members were involved in. While I can't recall all the details of what they did, I distinctly remember the techniques and knowledge they shared about maternal healthcare and managing chronic infectious diseases.

 

[Laser]

He really should, he shares very interesting stuff. He just shared a letter the Ottoman sultan sent to a Somali merchant .

He should've said firman (probably what he meant) too decorated to be a normal letter

Firman - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So cool, the somali must've been a man of very high statue because firmans are written by the sultans themselves and this one solely directed to him?

 

[Laser]

Some of the medical professions I remember hearing about from my family included work in chronic infectious diseases, maternal healthcare, and clinical laboratory technology. These were some of the fields my family members were involved in. While I can't recall all the details of what they did, I distinctly remember the techniques and knowledge they shared about maternal healthcare and managing chronic infectious diseases.

What's your qabiil

 

[gasara]

What's your qabiil

Im too pussy to say my qabil cuz ive already said where I live and theres barely any of us. All i'll say is that I'm from Galbeed and SL/Northern Somalia.

 

[Midas]

To gain a deeper understanding of Somali history, it's valuable to speak to people born in the 1960s or earlier. However, the best sources are those aged 70 and older, as they possess a wealth of knowledge about our history. This reminds me of a story my parent once shared from the 1960s. They used to make their own paper and ink for school/duugsi.

Both nomads and agropastoralists commonly used dogs. I was speaking with my parent, who mentioned that some of their family members, like a great aunt and uncle idrm, had a dog. The dog never entered the house but was kept to protect livestock and serve as an alert for potential dangers.


Somalis are very hardworking and work in many different sectors. This reminds me of the time when I was a kid back home I was apprenticing with a lady who specializes in fabric making. She said it was in her family for many generations and they sell her products all over East Africa and the middle east. Even though she was rich she kept working it was crazy. I also met another family who specialized in the creation of coffee beans and they've been doing it for many generations. We really are a multi-talented group of people.

I really wish somebody would interview these families and record these practices and stuff. We could have an entire series of books that focus on this stuff.

 

[Laser]

Im too pussy to say my qabil cuz ive already said where I live and theres barely any of us. All i'll say is that I'm from Galbeed and SL/Northern Somalia.

Gabooye i suppose then, would make sense too.
talking about the oral history you mentioned earlier

 

[gasara]

Gabooye i suppose then, would make sense too.
talking about the oral history you mentioned earlier

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