Somali Sheikh Says He Supports Marriage R Wording

[Lebron James]

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[Lebron James]

Since you liked the post, if your wife (if you ever get one) doesn't want to have sex would you force yourself on top of her ? @Hamzza

 

[Hamzza]

Since you liked the post, if your wife (if you ever get one) doesn't want to have sex would you force yourself on top of her ? @Hamzza

No, and what do you mean by "if you ever get one"? Do I look like an incel who can't get a wife to you?

 

[Lebron James]

No,

So you disagree with the shiekh ? Finally you're on the conscious path

Do I look like an incel who can't get a wife to you?

 

[Hamzza]

So you disagree with the shiekh ? Finally you're on the conscious path

Why would I disagree with a learned Sheikh? He is spitting facts. Rape can't happen inside a marriage as any sexual intercourse between a wife and husband is legal and rape is completely forbidden in both Gaalo and Islam law. Maybe they should call it other names instead of rape.

 

[Somali Saayid]

There is a simple solution for this. Get another wife.

It's not rocket science. But the R thing is a big NO that's straight up disgusting and vile.

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[Somali Saayid]

Why would I disagree with a learned Sheikh? He is spitting facts. Rape can't happen inside a marriage as any sexual intercourse between a wife and husband is legal and rape is completely forbidden in both Gaalo and Islam law. Maybe they should call it other names instead of rape.

وَهَكَذَا لَوْ كَانَتْ مُنْفَرِدَةً بِهِ أَوْ مَعَ أَمَةٍ لَهُ يَطَؤُهَا أُمِرَ بِتَقْوَى اللَّهِ تَعَالَى وَأَنْ لَا يضربهَا فِي الْجِمَاعِ وَلَمْ يُفْرَضْ عَلَيْهِمِنْهُ شَيْءٌ بِعَيْنِهِ إنَّمَا يُفْرَضُ عَلَيْهِ مَا لَا صَلَاحَ لَهَا إلَّا بِهِ مِنْ نَفَقَةٍ وَسُكْنَى وَكِسْوَةٍ وَأَنْ يَأْوِيَ إلَيْهَا فَأَمَّا الْجِمَاعُ فَمَوْضِعُ تَلَذُّذٍ وَلَا يُجْبَرُ أَحَدٌ عَلَيْهِ
Likewise, if he has only one wife or an additional concubine with whom he has intercourse, he is commanded to fear Allah Almighty and to not harm her in regards to intercourse, although nothing specific is obligated upon him. He is only obligated to provide what benefits her such as financial maintenance, residence, clothing, and spending the night with her. As for intercourse, its position is one of pleasure and no one can be forced into it (la yujbaru ahadun ‘alayhi).
Source: al-Umm 5/203

 

[Lebron James]

Why would I disagree with a learned Sheikh? He is spitting facts. Rape can't happen inside a marriage as any sexual intercourse between a wife and husband is legal and rape is completely forbidden in both Gaalo and Islam law. Maybe they should call it other names instead of rape.

So i ask you again since above you said no, you wouldn't force yourself onto your wife if she said no but you would allow other men to do so because its supposedly allowed in islam?

Thats rape bruh

 

[Angelina]

Honestly, such insensitive wordings will just push more and more youngsters to feminism and all the other ‘isms’

I’m tired. He could have easily said, Maritial r-word isn’t a thing in the Sharia, but it can be classified as Sexual abuse/DV. He could have easily have reiterated that harming one’s wife whether sexual, physical or emotional is haram. But instead, he choose to create the impression that one’s wife is property that he can do whatever he wants to. Even the analogy he used which was: ‘it’s like stealing from my own pocket’. But the thing is, women are separate entities, living and breathing.

 

[Hamzza]

So i ask you again since above you said no, you wouldn't force yourself onto your wife if she said no but you would allow other men to do so because its supposedly allowed in islam?

Thats rape bruh

Honestly, I'm tired of this wallahi

I wouldn't encourage other men to force their way into wives, but that's not rape in Islamic law and I'm a Muslim. I would take what the Islamic fuqaha said over Gaalo terminology.

 

[TekNiKo]

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Wahabbis make me chuckle, how can you “take what your right” from your wife . Its not realistic, if your wife aint in the mood you just gotta hold ur L and sleep in the living room as protest. Are these sheikhs living in an alternate reality? Feel sorry for their wives if they gotta rape em to get sum

 

[BLM]

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Hanafi ottoman sufi scholars from hundreds of years ago agree with him. Islamic legal terminology is different from normal terminology. A child in American law is different from a child according to society or someone’s culture. Rape is defined as one thing in Islamic law and all of this is is just in the books. Nobody is going to do this. If you’re wife is not in the mood every man would just go outside and play sports or something. People should focus on real rape instead of made up terms.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Insha'Allah the rape victims, I mean "wives", will divorce these men and if they are in the West, report them for marital rape. Simple. I am also a big fan of the angry Somali wife remedy of pouring boiling water or boiling oil on a piece of shit husband. I'm sure he'll think twice about raping another woman after that.

@Angelina

The fact that this man thinks a wife is the possession of a husband, is enough to know this 'Sheikh' is not to be taken seriously.

 

[Osiris1]

Hanafi ottoman sufi scholars from hundreds of years ago agree with him. Islamic legal terminology is different from normal terminology. A child in American law is different from a child according to society or someone’s culture. Rape is defined as one thing in Islamic law and all of this is is just in the books. Nobody is going to do this. If you’re wife is not in the mood every man would just go outside and play sports or something. People should focus on real rape instead of made up terms.

You think too highly of humans if you think these scenarios in which a husband who forces himself on his wife don't materialize in real life. You can argue 'terminology' all you like, by definition a man who uses physical force to fulfill his sexual desires on his wife without her consent has raped her. Doesn't matter if they're married or not.

 

[BLM]

You think too highly of humans if you think these scenarios in which a husband who forces himself on his wife don't materialize in real life. You can argue 'terminology' all you like, by definition a man who uses physical force to fulfill his sexual desires on his wife without her consent has raped her. Doesn't matter if they're married or not.

It’s not rape in Islam and it’s not punishable by a hadd punishment. Sure it’s illegal in some nations but Allah won’t hold you accountable for it. Nobody is going to do it anyway. If they do then what do you want me to do? You’re in the west so call the police.

 

[Awad]

Wahabbis make me chuckle, how can you “take what your right” from your wife . Its not realistic, if your wife aint in the mood you just gotta hold ur L and sleep in the living room as protest. Are these sheikhs living in an alternate reality? Feel sorry for their wives if they gotta rape em to get sum

stop using wahhabism/salafism as a term for things you don't like warya

you too @xoogster

 

[Hamzza]

stop using wahhabism/salafism as a term for things you don't like warya

This Sheikh is probably not Wahabi. Ironically the classical scholars who held the harshest stance on this issue and said it's permissible for a man to coerce his wife were Sūfis.

 

[Yaraye]

Insha'Allah the rape victims, I mean "wives", will divorce these men and if they are in the West, report them for marital rape. Simple. I am also a big fan of the angry Somali wife remedy of pouring boiling water or boiling oil on a piece of shit husband. I'm sure he'll think twice about raping another woman after that.

@Angelina

The fact that this man thinks a wife is the possession of a husband, is enough to know this 'Sheikh' is not to be taken seriously.

pouring boiling oil? Sounds delightful!!

crispy man's hilib.......

 

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He’s right in a sense if I heard him correctly. This idea isn’t exclusive to Islamic jurisprudence but pretty much every Pre-modern legal system, the R word is a coercive form of fornication/Adultry and cannot be applied in the context of marriage.

According to Fiqh, there are rights and responsibilities both spouses are obligated to fulfill and intimacy is the right of the husband/spouse. A woman who doesn’t have intimacy with her husband without any legitimate excuse is sinful and blameworthy just like a man who doesn’t provide maintenance for his wife is guilty and sinful. Obviously he has no right to harm his wife but he can obtain his right through methods that are not harmful.

Wahabbis make me chuckle, how can you “take what your right” from your wife . Its not realistic, if your wife aint in the mood you just gotta hold ur L and sleep in the living room as protest. Are these sheikhs living in an alternate reality? Feel sorry for their wives if they gotta rape em to get sum

This isn’t just a “Wahhabi” opinion, this is just standard Fiqh. You want us to quote Non-Wahhabi scholars (Sufi/Ash’ari and Maturidis) who held the same opinion?

 

[DubatDiaries]

Stop bringing this topic up. No more.