Somalia Gov ally Qatar flexes its muscles on UAE

[Bohol]

Qatar fighter jets harass UAE civilian aircraft


The aircraft was carrying 86 passengers while crossing Bahrain air space

Gulf News Web Report

16:03 April 22, 2018

Dubai: Qatar fighter jets dangerously approached a UAE civilian aircraft flying from Damman to Abu Dhabi on Sunday, according to a statement carried by WAM.

The aircraft was carrying 86 passengers while crossing Bahraini air space and was following a scheduled flight path.

The aircraft had adhered to necessary approvals and international permits, according to the statement.

“The Qatar fighter jets followed and approached the [UAE civilian] aircraft, reducing the horizontal distance to less than two miles and vertical separation to 700 feet, leaving just a few seconds before a possible collision of the aircraft. It was a dangerous approach endangering the lives of passengers,” it said.
Following the incident, the UAE General Authority of Civil Aviation said that it will file a complaint with the International Civil Aviation Organization.

 

[TheAnswer]

Superpower Qatar

 

[Cumar]

UAE + Saudi+ Western Allies > Qatar, Turkey and Iran imo.

The FGS chose to ally itself with a rogue state. It was the wrong choice geo-politically. We will undoubtedly see negative consequences as a result of this primitive choice.

 

[DRACO]

UAE + Saudi+ Western Allies > Qatar, Turkey and Iran imo.

The FGS chose to ally itself with a rogue state. It was the wrong choice geo-politically. We will undoubtedly see negative consequences as a result of this primitive choice.

Absolutely. This is a perfect analogy

 

[Futurist]

Interesting

The Somalia Federal Government is siding with Saudi Arabia + UAE's enemies such as Qatar and Iran. Somalia is now an ally of Iran, Qatar.

Somaliland on the other hand is working a co-operating with its brotherly nations UAE and Saudi Arabia. Somaliland is an ally of Saudi Arabia + UAE

 

[Ahmed Alawi]

Interesting

The Somalia Federal Government is siding with Saudi Arabia + UAE's enemies such as Qatar and Iran. Somalia is now an ally of Iran, Qatar.

Somaliland on the other hand is working a co-operating with its brotherly nations UAE and Saudi Arabia. Somaliland is an ally of Saudi Arabia + UAE

Incoming civil war?

 

[TheAnswer]

UAE + Saudi+ Western Allies > Qatar, Turkey and Iran imo.

The FGS chose to ally itself with a rogue state. It was the wrong choice geo-politically. We will undoubtedly see negative consequences as a result of this primitive choice.

The West is not interested in saving Saudi Arabia and UAE from Iran. They are not a meaningful part of this equation. Obama told the Saudis to get comfortable with Iran taking a big piece of the Middle East.Trump at first made some aggressive comments in favor of Saudi+UAE, but has since retreated to his policy of withdrawing from the Middle East. The GOP base does not want to see the U.S playing a big role in the M.E, as it's proven to be a big waste of time and resources.

Iran is probably the strongest power in the Middle East right now. They are experts at waging war through controlling proxy millitas . They dominate in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and to an extent Yemen.

Turkey has one of the biggest economies in the Middle East, the strongest army (NATO member), and an advanced and literate civilization (compared to Bedouin snake eaters in Saudi+UAE)

Qatar is very very rich.

Somalia made a good choice to remain publicly neutral, but to align with Turkey and Qatar. They are in a stronger position than UAE+Saudi. If these latter two try to cause more problems, Somalia can threaten them by getting closer to Iran. They are psychologically terrified of Iran, who they think is surrounding them (and they're right). If Iran gets a presence in Somalia, which is basically next door to them, they are in a very bad situation.

 

[Futurist]

Incoming civil war?

No Somalis are winning

The South has been milking UAE/Qatar/Saudi Arabia for long time

Now SL is getting in on the action

Somaliland is natural allies with UAE and Saudi Arabia. Our interests align.

Somalia is a natural ally with Iran and Qatar.

 

[TheAnswer]

Absolutely. This is a perfect analogy

You should avoid geopolitical discussions if you don't even know how to use the word 'analogy' correctly.

 

[TheAnswer]

Mudane Farmaajo needs to invite Iran to build a base if the dress-wearing Emiratis continue misbehaving

Iran is ascendant in the Middle East, spreading its influence in a contiguous geographic arc from Tehran to Baghdad, Damascus and Beirut. Its rise, which began with the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq and accelerated when civil wars erupted in Syria and Yemen, has generated a perception that Iran aspires to be the region’s hegemonic power.

 

[Cumar]

@IslamIsTheAnswer Iran is not that powerful and is ultimately treated as a pariah state. It is not wise to ally with states that are shunned by the west, especially for countries recovering from a brutal civil war and are just reintegrating into the international community like Somalia. Besides, you and I both know the Israelis can end their "nuclear program" with a few guided missile strikes in matter of minutes.

Somalia's largest trading partner is the UAE. That is the facts on the ground. It is not smart foreign policy at all to alienate your biggest customer.

 

[TheAnswer]

@IslamIsTheAnswer Iran, while powerful is ultimately a pariah. It is not wise to ally with states that are shunned by the west, especially for countries recovering from a brutal civil war like Somalia.

We're not actively aligned with Iran. They're just hovering in the background menacing UAE and Saudi Arabia (good). My point was that developing stronger ties (not necessarily super close) with Iran is a good diplomatic threat to use against the Emiratis and the Saudis.

Somalia's primary allies are Turkey and Qatar. Neither can be described as a pariah state. Turkey is part of NATo. As for Qatar, their foreign minister was in Washington only a few days ago being feted by all the Trump people. Qatar is very wealthy and owns a lot of Wall Street stocks and bonds, nobody can ignore them.

Saudi and UAE can't do anything to stop Qatar. All the major Western newspaper editorials are telling the Saudis +UAE that their blockade has failed and they must lift it. This reflects elite Western opinion. Trump said he will convene a meeting in September to have it ended. By aligning with Qatar, Somalia choose the winning side.

UAE+Saudi can't really do much to us. Sure they can ban lifestock imports, but they've done that a lot in the past so at this point people are resilient to it. They can cut off their aid, but frankly the level of their aid is greatly exaggerated. UAE has given Somalia only about 220 million since 1993, which is a very small amount when speaking about country-to-country aid. Meanwhile, Turkey has given close to 400 million since just 2011 and that number is growing by the day. And the Turkish aid has been far more useful (infrastructure, military, capacity building) while the UAE aid has largely consisted of handing out food rations.

So in sum, Somalia is in a strong position than you let on.

 

[Futurist]

Actions have consequences

 

[TheAnswer]

Actions have consequences

With the sweet ten million we pocketed from them, we can probably build a new hospital lol
The dress-wearing crowd is real salty wallahi

 

[Futurist]

Qatar has pledged allegiance to Somalia and Iran in its row with United Arab Emirates (UAE)

 

[Cumar]

The West is not interested in saving Saudi Arabia and UAE from Iran. They are not a meaningful part of this equation. Obama told the Saudis to get comfortable with Iran taking a big piece of the Middle East.Trump at first made some aggressive comments in favor of Saudi+UAE, but has since retreated to his policy of withdrawing from the Middle East. The GOP base does not want to see the U.S playing a big role in the M.E, as it's proven to be a big waste of time and resources.

Iran is probably the strongest power in the Middle East right now. They are experts at waging war through controlling proxy millitas . They dominate in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and to an extent Yemen.

Turkey has one of the biggest economies in the Middle East, the strongest army (NATO member), and an advanced and literate civilization (compared to Bedouin snake eaters in Saudi+UAE)

Qatar is very very rich.

Somalia made a good choice to remain publicly neutral, but to align with Turkey and Qatar. They are in a stronger position than UAE+Saudi. If these latter two try to cause more problems, Somalia can threaten them by getting closer to Iran. They are psychologically terrified of Iran, who they think is surrounding them (and they're right). If Iran gets a presence in Somalia, which is basically next door to them, they are in a very bad situation.

In my view, It all depends on how the khaleej diplomatic crisis resolves itself. If it dies down and they are able to reconcile peacefully than the FGS wins. If the conflict escalates, then Somaliland benefits. War, as we both know is a zero-sum game with only one winner. You cannot seriously believe that FGS is allying itself with Turkey + Iran + Russia is a winning alliance against the United States and Israel's proxies in the middle east?

It is a fact that Russia's bluff in Syria was called just few weeks ago. We heard crickets from Moscow in retaliation to Trump's strikes there despite all their posturing. At the end of the day, when I bring up the UAE and Saudi, you have to understand that they are just proxy states of the west vis-a-vis the United States and Israel.

It will be fascinating indeed to watch how all this develops over the next few months.

 

[wars]

Actions have consequences

Erdogan Hospital in Mogadishu s huuuuge!

Haha

 

[Futurist]

@Cumar Statistically speaking who do you think will win in the end? Turkey, Qater, Iran... or Saudi Arabia, UAE, USA?

 

[TheAnswer]

In my view, It all depends on how the khaleej crisis resolves itself. If it dies down and they are able to reconcile peacefully than the FGS wins. If the conflict escalates, then Somaliland benefits. War, as we both know is a zero-sum game with only one winner. You cannot seriously believe that FGS is allying itself with Turkey + Iran + Russia is a winning alliance against the United States and Israel's proxies in the middle east?

It is a fact that Russia's bluff in Syria was called just few weeks ago. We heard crickets from Moscow in retaliation to Trump's strikes there. At the end of the day, when I bring up the UAE and Saudi, you have to understand that they are a just proxy states of the west vis-a-vis the United States and Israel.

You don't appear to have any understanding of U.S politics, or how the conflict in the Middle East is shaping out.

Since being burned in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S has decided to pull back from the Middle East and foreign policy adventurism. Both the elites and the general public, of both the GOP and the Democratic party, are now very wary of getting involved in foreign disputes over there, which is why they let Assad remain in power and ignored the active involvement of both Iran and Russia, and their numerous proxy groups, in the Syrian civil war.

Russia's bluff was not called anywhere. Trump launched a few reactive missile strikes after Bashar used chemical weapons despite being told multiple times not to do so. The missile strikes were just a weak slap on the wrist. The Washington foreign policy establishment agrees that Assad will remain in power, and this is big a win for Russia and Iran.

The Saudis and Emiratis know that the U.S is not the patron and protector it once was. Which is why they're now trying to suck up to Russia. Senile King Salman took his private jet and golden escalator to Moscow a few months ago to meet with Putin. Sadly for the pathetic Saudis, Russia isn't interested in (or even capable of) protecting them from Iran. Moreover, Iran is a much more capable and enticing geopolitical ally for Russia than the Saudis. The Saudis have a lot of cash (and even that is now increasingly running out), but nothing more. Iran, on the other hand, has a network of highly effective proxy groups all throughout the Middle East. They call the shots everywhere from Beirut to Baghdad, while the Saudis can't even control Mogadishu anymore let alone other M.E capitals.

This is a tangent from Somalia though. We're not actively aligned with Iran/Russia, but its relevant to discuss their strengths because it shows how weak the UAE and Saudi Arabia are.

 

[wars]

@Cumar Statistically speaking who do you think will win in the end? Turkey, Qater, Iran... or Saudi Arabia, UAE, USA?

Don’t forget turkey+Qatar+Iran+Russia+China+North Korea ect... Somalia is in a winning position thanks to Mudane Farmaajo!