Somalia one of the 7 countries chosen to be taken out

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Has anybody else seen this video and Somalia is yet to recover fully after 30+ years

 

[Shimbiris]

This has been known for ages. I always wondered why the hell they were so hellbent on this other than wanting to loot our resources cos that point didn't 100% add up. Other than our marine resources and maybe some uranium they really don't loot all that much from Somalia, for example. Then it hit me.

It's about Israel. It's basically about making sure no wealthy, developed and strong states not subservient to the West exist around their little settled colonialist project that can then threaten its existence.

But then the looting is in there too and just generally seeing our block of nations as a threat to their global economic and political order if we're not willing to be their boys like the Khaleejis were for much of the last 30+ years.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Yup they put resources in destroying us, began funding rebels and all sorts of qabil militias turning this previously insignificant thing into a massive division. Their efforts paid off, after the ogaden war they had to put their resources against us. Wallahi we couldve held a position like Turkey in east africa

 

[Sigmundd]

Somalia could also be dismantled soon. So many states coming out and also America interest with Somaliland port. Is either make or break for Greater Somalia these couple of years.

 

[Shimbiris]

A lot of folks don't realize just how much Israel and its powerful lobby pretty much drove the Iraq war into happening. They tried really hard with Iran and are still somewhat trying. Netanyahu and the Israeli lobby worked hard for an "Iran war" and had many Neo-cons and Neo-liberals on their side but, thankfully, the utter fiasco that was the Iraq war and it's subsequent fallout has so far curbed the appetite for another invasion among Americans politicians just enough.

I'm reminded of this absurd and hilarious fear mongering image from one of Netanyahu's addresses to the UN trying to convince people that Iran "needed to be stopped":

This is not some "The J000ssss ruuuun the world" post. Israel just very much does have a strong and scary lobby across the west that gets shit done in their favour. They've ended Congressional careers and actively influence policy in part because America is also a lunatic nation where Christian crazies who seriously want the Masixi Yom al-Qiyamah occupy some of the highest echelons of power:



There's a lot of insanity going on in DC.

 

[December]

wtf did sudan even do

 

[Midas]

The tragedy of somalia is that even though we're an incredibly poor country. It's impossible for us to grow peacefully and without catching the attention of the world.

 

[Farsi]

wtf did sudan even do

Hosted bin laden, allowed him to operate training camps in the 90s, use to be a major smuggling route for weapons from Iran to the Gaza Strip and helped train the fis.

 

[wheel]

Somalia was a mess at the time, what does taking out even mean? we had already achieved self destruction that at that point and happily remained in that state for over a decade.

 

[Nilotic]

wtf did sudan even do

Declared war on Israel in 1967; a war that Bashir himself participated in.

The three No's were declared in Khartoum; prior to that, we were fighting "Arabs" with spears.

 

[Shimbiris]

Somalia was a mess at the time, what does taking out even mean? we had already achieved self destruction that at that point and happily remained in that state for over a decade.

That "self-destruction" was in large part orchestrated by them. Many of the "rebel" leaders in our civil war were disowned, disgruntled degenerates whom the West and by proxy via Ethiopia funded and armed with the specific purpose of destabilising and destroying Somalia. They had no plan other than looting and destroying their own homeland and their benefactors knew this.

@Idilinaa can go into more detail than I can.

 

[December]

Declared war on Israel in 1967; a war that Bashir himself participated in.

The three No's were declared in Khartoum; prior to that, we were fighting "Arabs" with spears.

so it's really just israel

 

[Yami]

The tragedy of somalia is that even though we're an incredibly poor country. It's impossible for us to grow peacefully and without catching the attention of the world.

He used Somalia and Iraq as proof the take out process was already in motion

 

[Yami]

Half of Lebanon & all of Syria got taken out this year., can’t believe there’s still skepticism over this leak. All they did was change up the years

 

[Nilotic]

so it's really just israel

A little bit more complicated than that, but Israel made sure that Sudan suffered for its stances and alignments

What should be pointed out is that even when Israel was supporting us, Khartoum was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid after Egypt; and this is precisely why Sudan has C-130 Hercules aircraft and M60 Patton tanks.

Washington and Israel were on different sides of the war until Bashir arrived on the scene; the South was aligned with the Soviet Union during the Cold War and our military officers were trained by the Cubans.

We even received weapons from Gaddafi -- due to Garang's vision (unpopular within the South) of uniting the African and Arab worlds through Sudan. Even now, Egypt is our biggest ally in Africa -- prompting Ali Osman Taha to sardonically ask how well we were getting on with our "brothers" -- the Egyptians.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

This has been known for ages. I always wondered why the hell they were so hellbent on this other than wanting to loot our resources cos that point didn't 100% add up. Other than our marine resources and maybe some uranium they really don't loot all that much from Somalia, for example. Then it hit me.

It's about Israel. It's basically about making sure no wealthy, developed and strong states not subservient to the West exist around their little settled colonialist project that can then threaten its existence.

But then the looting is in there too and just generally seeing our block of nations as a threat to their global economic and political order if we're not willing to be their boys like the Khaleejis were for much of the last 30+ years.

Why isn’t pakistan on this list? didn’t they host or hide osama bin laden and don’t they have nukes?

 

[December]

A little bit more complicated than that, but Israel made sure that Sudan suffered for its stances and alignments

What should be pointed out is that even when Israel was supporting us, Khartoum was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid after Egypt; and this is precisely why Sudan has C-130 Hercules aircraft and M60 Patton tanks.

Washington and Israel were on different sides of the war until Bashir arrived on the scene; the South was aligned with the Soviet Union during the Cold War and our military officers were trained by the Cubans.

We even received weapons from Gaddafi -- due to Garang's vision (unpopular within the South) of uniting the African and Arab worlds through Sudan. Even now, Egypt is our biggest ally in Africa -- prompting Ali Osman Taha to sardonically ask how well we were getting on with our "brothers" -- the Egyptians.

might have to read about north-south relations during the cold war

 

[Hotchick12]

whilst they were doing all this, china has been rising behind their back, china has been the number 1 trader with africa and latin america and caribbean,

 

[Spongebob]

A lot of folks don't realize just how much Israel and its powerful lobby pretty much drove the Iraq war into happening. They tried really hard with Iran and are still somewhat trying. Netanyahu and the Israeli lobby worked hard for an "Iran war" and had many Neo-cons and Neo-liberals on their side but, thankfully, the utter fiasco that was the Iraq war and it's subsequent fallout has so far curbed the appetite for another invasion among Americans politicians just enough.

I'm reminded of this absurd and hilarious fear mongering image from one of Netanyahu's addresses to the UN trying to convince people that Iran "needed to be stopped":

This is not some "The J000ssss ruuuun the world" post. Israel just very much does have a strong and scary lobby across the west that gets shit done in their favour. They've ended Congressional careers and actively influence policy in part because America is also a lunatic nation where Christian crazies who seriously want the Masixi Yom al-Qiyamah occupy some of the highest echelons of power:



There's a lot of insanity going on in DC.

Right now they won't be able to stir up support for a war against Iran. People want to die for their country, and their country has been giving them even less then crumbs lately. Why should they die for Israel?

 

[Shimbiris]

Why isn’t pakistan on this list? didn’t they host or hide osama bin laden and don’t they have nukes?

I'm not well versed on Pakistan but my very surface level grasp has been that the Pakistani military pretty much pacifies any government that could remotely be a threat to the West or cause any sort of radical change. They're pretty much bought and paid for. Plus, there's probably an element of not wanting to f*ck around too much in a country where nukes are involved. That's flirting with Armageddon.

The west isn't totally rabid. If you're willing to work closely with them and not inconvenience them like the Khaleej states, Pakistan and historically Turkey as well, they will mostly leave you be.